Republican Response to The One- - Jindal - LIVE THREAD

[Jean S]

Live thread.

[roamer_1]

This is what I was saying the whole time. You Paulites favored Obama over McCain in the general election.

As I said, I have never supported Ron Paul.

[roamer_1:] Those who voted McCain/Palin assured Obama's victory

This statement doesn't even come close to making sense.

Sure it does. It is called "Kicking a dead horse". Every Conservative around said there was no way McCain would win, and no way they would ever vote for him, yet rampant Republicanism had it's way anyway, taking the wind away from any possibility of a grassroots movement. So, you got your shot and lost. Live with it.

[death2tyrants]

As I said, I have never supported Ron Paul

Regardless of whichever third party kook you supported, whether you sat at home and pouted, or wether you voted for zero, you favored Obama over McCain in the general election. That was my point the whole time.

Sure it does

No it doesn't. Voting for McCain/Palin did not assure Obama's victory. Like I said, that makes no sense what-so-ever. And the idea that 'every' conservative said there is no way they would vote for McCain/Palin in the general election is no less absurd than your other goofy claims. Also, I'm still waiting for you to define what you consider to be the 'neocon dream'. And how come you didn't take me up on my triple-dog-dare?

[roamer_1]

This vague statement doesn't answer my question. You mentioned 'the neocon dream'. What do you mean when you say 'the neocon dream'?

The "new conservatism" is the "kinder, gentler" conservatism of the Baker Moderates, which has moved to bastardize everything Conservative and turn it to it's own devices- The final outcome, to my reckoning, seems to be Globalism, but whatever it is, it has nothing at all to do with the Conservatism of Reagan.

Reagan Conservatism is all about principle- it is a pact between the lesser conservative factions to only vote for candidates who uphold the tenets of all three factions- That is what a big "C" Conservative is.

NeoConservatism seeks to change the very definitions by which Conservatives set their values by using the same names and proscribing different values to them, while denigrating those things which used to be the placeholders for those names.

Reaganite "Free Trade" has become protectionism, and "Free Trade" now means "Anything goes". Reagan's Trickle Down Economics and Raw Capitalism has become Keynesian Third Way Economics, And what was once solid support for the Constitution has become compromise and capitulation- To the point that our very sovereignty is being undermined. What was once the party of social justice, of God's own Law has largely become a compromise with multi-culturalism. And what was once the honorable ideal of lifting up our foe and fixing what we broke, has become... wait for it... interventionism just as our Libertarian friends have bemoaned.

[roamer_1:] and fairly in favor of the war in Iraq, though not for the stated reasons

Perhaps you could elaborate on this statement.

Simple strategy suggests that it is easier to kill the ragheads in a sandbox than it is to kill them on the rocky spines of the mountains of Afghanistan- A place which has broken the back of every army that has ever ventured there.

I am not in favor of the certain discrepancies which do exist within the greater WOT... Backing Muslims against the Serbs for instance- A monumental and asinine misfortune. Kosovo is the back door into Europe, and we are handing it to our enemies.

I triple dog dare you, (that's right, I engaged in slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat), I triple dog dare you to post this as it's own thread, declaring that Palin isn't a conservative. And make sure you rant about 'neocons' in your post.

I do not post threads, as I am not here long enough to mind one properly- But I have not been bashful about my position regarding Palin or NeoCons. I will offer you the very same question I have posted numerous times on Palin threads (and Jindal threads for that matter), having never been given a satisfactory reply:

By her RECORD, that is, what she has already done and already said, explain to me how Sarah Palin can unite the three pillars of Reagan Conservatism. It is my position that she cannot, and will defend against her based upon all three pillars, upon any of which she is too weak to stand as a conservative in her own right.

This is a very common question, and one which any Reaganite can be judged by forthwith.

[roamer_1]

you favored Obama over McCain in the general election. That was my point the whole time.

I favored *neither*, as I said. I will not be forced into voting for socialism, just because it has an "R" behind it.

No it doesn't. Voting for McCain/Palin did not assure Obama's victory. Like I said, that makes no sense what-so-ever. And the idea that 'every' conservative said there is no way they would vote for McCain/Palin in the general election is no less absurd than your other goofy claims.

I know *no one* who voted for McCain, and I know *no one* who voted for Obama. *NONE*. Furthermore, of my entire ring of friends and associates, including those I used to scrounge money with *for* the Republicans, I don't know of a single *one* who is still a Republican. Does that offer you any clues? And I come from very staunch Reaganite Pro-Life, Pro-Republican, very politically active surroundings.

Everyone I know left the Republican party over Geo. Bush or John McCain.

[Fiji Hill]

Tell it to someone who will listen. You and I both know you were just trying to get a reaction out of me because you know I don’t care for Palin. Same with your schtick directed towards me that, “Sarah Palin should have given the Republican response.”

Well, you did react to both of my posts by shooting flames my way that were far out of proportion to my simple suggestions that Palin give the Republican response to Obama and that De Mint might be a good choice as Palin's VP.

What is it about Sarah Palin that generates such visceral hatred from some who are otherwise clearly on the conservative side?

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

GoodDay - Thank you for that link. That was a very interesting exchange.

I wish they would have gotten into Global Warming. That fraud is the greatest threat to our freedom today.

Most of all, though, thanks for turning me on to PopModal...hadn’t heard of that site, and it’s GREAT!

It’s now bookmarked.

Hank

[ravingnutter]

I have given you a week to respond...what gives?

Here is the DU post in question

I know it is you, you have OK flags at both sites. Why do you donate to DU? Why are you here?

[Fiji Hill]

It’s not going to be Palin vs Obama. I promise we’ll field a stronger candidate

Who?
Romney? Jindal? Gingrich?