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My Muslim President Obama (Why members of the Islamic faith see him as one of the flock.)
Forbes ^ | 02.25.09 | Asma Gull Hasan

Posted on 02/25/2009 10:28:14 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo

I know President Obama is not Muslim, but I am tempted nevertheless to think that he is, as are most Muslims I know. In a very unscientific oral poll, ranging from family members to Muslim acquaintances, many of us feel, just as African-Americans did for the non-black but culturally leaning African-American President Bill Clinton, that we have our first American Muslim president in Barack Hussein Obama.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bo; husseinobama; islam; jihad; muslim; muslims; muslimvote; obama; sharia; shariah; stealthjihad; taqiyah; taqiyya

1 posted on 02/25/2009 10:28:14 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Yeah!...He’s all flocked up!


2 posted on 02/25/2009 10:33:54 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeafoodGumbo

“first”

them’s fighting words.


3 posted on 02/25/2009 10:35:53 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: SeafoodGumbo
From AsiaTimesOnline
Feb 26, 2008

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

4 posted on 02/25/2009 10:37:38 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

“Posted by Shahidah | 02/25/09 09:44 AM EST
Peace Be Upon All:

Love the article. And yes, He is my Muslim President, too. He, President Obama, dosent have to “say” he is Muslim, his actions “say” he is Muslim. Muslim “means one who submits his will to God”. His actions speak volumes that he follows the Holy scriptures. Also, too, Allah SWT, sent down the Gospel & Torah. Obama, too, is following those scriptures as well, because they all are confirmations of the Holy Quran, the final Holy Book God sent. So if you read all of them then you can “see” the broad spectrum and know that he, President Obama, is being a Muslim...submitting his will to God’s will. He is a rightous man. Not perfect, but rightous. His very name means “Blessing” (BARACK) Yes, he is MY Muslim president, too. I believe God has sent him to do a job. No, he is not a prophet, but a servant of God.”

As many of us here say, actions speak louder than words.


5 posted on 02/25/2009 10:38:09 AM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

“I know President Obama is not Muslim”

Not sure why you don’t think he’s a muslim . . . he was born a muslim, raised a muslim, went to muslim schools, has a muslim name, and only became a Christian when he found a church that would spit on America and all it stands for.

And don’t forget his “57-state” gaff during the campaign . . . there are 57 muslim states (just google ‘57 states’ and see what comes up) . . . he being a true Christian God-hatin muslim. It’s amazing that we put this illegal alien in the White House.


6 posted on 02/25/2009 10:39:30 AM PST by laweeks
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I’m beside words.


7 posted on 02/25/2009 10:39:52 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
So when Obama says he's not Muslim, my umma mentality says I know better.

Obamists all see in Obama what they want to see. That is the one thing that has been remarkable about him; people read into him what they want to. They are convinced he agrees with them even when he has stated an opposing opinion; they are always sure that he secretly agrees with them, that he says what he needs to for political reasons but he really agrees with them. And it doesn't bother them in the least that they are sure he says one thing while believing another.

A buddy of mine, an Obamaniac, asked me why I was against him. I listed his stated positions that I disagreed with. His response? "He's not really going to do that", he said. But he says he will, I say. "But he won't. You and I both know he won't". So why do you support him if you know he's lying? "I know he wants to do those things, which is why I support him. But I know he can't really do those things, so you shouldn't worry about it". Astonishing.

8 posted on 02/25/2009 10:42:52 AM PST by marron
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To: SeafoodGumbo
I don't know why you say he's not a Muslim. His father was Muslim which is enough. And the Muslims are the “Hotel California”-You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. See my tagline.
9 posted on 02/25/2009 10:47:56 AM PST by GeorgeTex (Obama-Three M President (Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: SeafoodGumbo

“I know President Obama is not Muslim”

We’re told over and over again that he is not muslim, but we don’t KNOW it. Frankly, I think the jury is still out.


10 posted on 02/25/2009 10:51:26 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
The Qur’an speaks often of the umma, or the worldwide community of Muslims. In the early days of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad led the small umma. Every decision, every effort, everything was for the umma—people who were often unrelated by blood but had become related by choice as Muslims. In those early days, many Muslims had gone against the wishes of their own families in converting to Islam, pitting brother against sister, father against child. Perhaps that's why the concept of umma became so dear and is still echoed today—in my opinion, echoed more than that Western favorite jihad—in Muslim homes, whether those homes are in the United States or in Palestine.

Perhaps it is my—and most Muslims’— loyalty to the umma that is behind our insistence on seeing Obama as Muslim. Islam survived and continues to survive because Muslims believe we have to respect and take care of each other, as members of the umma. If we were to start excluding members, or revising our broad guidelines for admittance, the very essence of the community feeling that is important in Islam, that gives me and other Muslims comfort everyday, would be undercut. So when Obama says he's not Muslim, my umma mentality says I know better. Once you have a Muslim parent, especially a dad, you're in. Whether you like it or not, Muslims all over the world see you as one of them.

Well, Ms. that's exactly why you can never REALLY be an American and no American should consider Muslims as really Americans.

You see, in America, Americans have always considered THEMSELVES part of a "special community". We call it AMERICA. Regardless of race or religion, we always consider ourselves from a political perspective Americans first. Sure, there are a few wackos out there who think diferently, but those opinions are not generally required by any other political segment of our society - except, of course, Muslims.

Most Americans still don't understand you and people who think like you. They still try to equate Islam with Buddhism, Sikhism, Christianity, or any other religion. Unlike you, they fail to understand that Islam is not just a religion. It is a social system, a political system, an economic system, and a nation. But they will learn.

I just hope they don't learn too late.

AND, by the way, JIHAD is not a favorite WESTERN word. Its a favorite ISLAMIC word.

11 posted on 02/25/2009 10:52:12 AM PST by ZULU (The Obamanation of Desolation stands here. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I know President Obama is not Muslim/ Prove it!


12 posted on 02/25/2009 10:53:50 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeafoodGumbo
"....To suitably prejudiced Indonesians Obama's pledge to "rid the American mind-set of militarism" substantiates the position of the Islamic militants by rekindling the prophecies of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden. That America is a decadent and vile ogre, bloodied with the guilt of imperialism and inescapably tainted by an anti-Islamic history. It is this symbolically violent imagery that Indonesia's fundamentalist orators will use to radicalize a new contingent of militants from the ranks of Islam's moderates. Individuals who are mesmerized by the phantasmagorical image of one of their own now inhabiting the White House and who will see it as a sign of America's impending submission and our nation's acquiescence to the superiority of Islam..."

Islam's Battle For The White House

13 posted on 02/25/2009 10:54:59 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

“I know President Obama is not Muslim, but I am tempted nevertheless to think that he is, as are most Muslims I know.”

This opening sentence makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Most muslims he knows are muslims, even though they are not?


14 posted on 02/25/2009 10:55:57 AM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

This is a great article, and one of the most telling about the “real” Obama. Freepers: let’s pass this one around.


15 posted on 02/25/2009 10:56:16 AM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: laweeks
he was born a muslim, raised a muslim, went to muslim schools, has a muslim name, and only became a Christian when he found a church that would spit on America

Amazing that so many here still don't get what Obama's about. The guy is a Marxist! His "Change" movement is about Marxist takeover, not a U.S. conversion to Islam. The "church" Obama found and remained loyal to for twenty friggin years preaches "Black Liberation". BLT is a revolutionary communist political ideology. He's been surrounded and groomed by communists his whole entire life.

Details here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/

16 posted on 02/25/2009 11:00:07 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: laweeks

And also, not that we forget his “my muslim faith” slip in the Stephanopolous interview.


17 posted on 02/25/2009 11:02:13 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!)
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To: Vaduz

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Read ‘The Obama File’ by our own FReeper, Beckwith:
http://www.theobamafile.com/
Pay special attention to the section labled ‘Islam’ and ‘Religion. The evidence is OVERWHELMING.

The United States Library of Congress has selected The Obama File for inclusion in its historic collections of Internet materials
related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises.

http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

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18 posted on 02/25/2009 11:15:16 AM PST by patriot08
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To: ScottinVA
And also, not that we forget his “my muslim faith” slip in the Stephanopolous interview.

And you think the "Change" agenda is about converting the U.S. to Islam?
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Saul Alinsky on "Change"...
From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."

Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm
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"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.

The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."

http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/907/1/4/
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A Landslide Mandate For Change

Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!

We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-people’s movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all people’s movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.

The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and people’s unity.

There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.

The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.

http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/991/1/154/
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Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

Video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him call Obama "The Messiah" And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farrakhan+messiah+obama&aq=0&oq=Farrakhan+messiah
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Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html
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Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says
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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/
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"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/election.president/index.html

19 posted on 02/25/2009 11:18:46 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

LOL not a muslim? OH ok now are we supposed to drink the kool-aid. Muslim Barack Hussein Obama needs to prove he is not a muslim and so far he has failed to do so.


20 posted on 02/25/2009 11:20:03 AM PST by Katarina (Thank God for Conservative talk radio.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Obama isn't Muslim, he just loves pork.
21 posted on 02/25/2009 11:20:54 AM PST by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ETL

The Islamist-Leftist Allied Menace

http://www.danielpipes.org/5720/the-islamist-leftist-allied-menace

I also believe there was some sort of muslim-marxist tangle that was destabilizing Chechnya for Russia’s gain.


22 posted on 02/25/2009 11:22:11 AM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: laweeks

Are you saying that Punahou, Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard University are Muslim schools? I thought he attended one Muslim school for part of the four years he lived in Indonesia as a young child. By your argument, George W. Bush got his MBA from a Muslim school.


23 posted on 02/25/2009 11:24:50 AM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: Katarina

No wonder we got our butts kicked. If people here don’t understand the most fundamental things about Obama and the “Change” movement (he didn’t invent the ‘Change’ thing, it’s old-time commie speak for Marxist takeover), it must be far worse on the outside.


24 posted on 02/25/2009 11:28:13 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

If your father was a Muzzie, YOU ARE a Muzzie! If you refuse to accept your Islamic “duties” you are an Apostate. According to Koranic writings, the scripture of “The Cult of Islam”, a Muslim MUST KILL YOU! It is his DUTY to Allah.


25 posted on 02/25/2009 11:31:32 AM PST by WellyP
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To: marron

I was very very sad to see this in my hero, James Randi.

He is convinced that Obama doesn’t really believe in God, just like all politicians “Says what he has to say to get elected”. Yes, he actually said that.

This is man who has spent his WHOLE LIFE in exposing flim flam people and the biggest flim flam man in all time took in the Great and Amazing Randi.

Very very sad.


26 posted on 02/25/2009 11:35:23 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Califreak
The commies are *allied* with the Islamo-fascists in their joint war on the U.S. and freedom in general, but commie 'intellectuals' like Obama and Ayers are not exactly into religion...of any kind. Commies have used various phony religious movements as stages to promote hatred and anti-Americanism for decades. Liberation Theology is one such movement, and James Cone's and Rev Wright's 'Black Liberation Theology' stems from LT. See my FR Home page for more info (http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/#Section%204)

Amazon Book Review:
"Vastly Illuminating!" September 25, 2004
By Kat Bakhu

"I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air."
$27.00
http://www.amazon.com/Unholy-Alliance-Radical-Islam-American/dp/089526076X

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left -by David Horowitz
Not all dissent is equal, and Americans whose actions are calculated to give aide and comfort to the butchers who murdered 3,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001 are not patriotic at all... they are, in fact, quite the opposite.

$18.00 from David Horowitz's website, FrontPageMag.com:
(click on either of the two books shown in the column on the left side of the page to get to his 'book store' section)
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Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
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More info about Black Liberation Theology here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/#Section%204

27 posted on 02/25/2009 11:42:56 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: WellyP

http://www.finalcrusade.com/

THE DRY TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM

Despite daily news of atrocities, our leaders are always keen to stress that Islam means peace,

but does it and can it?...”


28 posted on 02/25/2009 11:46:57 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Marie2

How about this.

I, as well as most muslims I know, am tempted to believe that president Obama is a muslim, even though we know that he is not a muslim.

Personally I think he is evil incarnate.


29 posted on 02/25/2009 11:51:34 AM PST by RipSawyer (I have scant HOPE for the PRESENT absent a major CHANGE.)
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To: autumnraine

I am not sure I understand you, can you state this differently. It sounds as though you are saying that Obama does believe in God but he made Randi think that he didn’t.


30 posted on 02/25/2009 11:56:37 AM PST by RipSawyer (I have scant HOPE for the PRESENT absent a major CHANGE.)
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To: RipSawyer

What I’m saying is that Obama CLAIMED to believe in God. James Randi said he understood that it was just something he had to say as a politician implying that Obama must not really believe in God, but said so because it was politically expedient to say so.

In other words, Obama became the blank chalkboard for an Athiest proving that people project their own desires on Obama.

Phil Plait, the “Bad Astronomer” saw Obama as the “Science President”, that he was going to advance scientifically what all the middle ages Christians want to hold back. (yes, I respect him scientifically, but he is a moron in this respect) So even though Obama has put a non-scientist nincompoop in charge of reducing the cost of NASA, including dropping important programs, he is STILL being hailed as the Science President.

Two prime examples of people hearing what they want to hear and putting their own desires onto the President of Hopenchange.


31 posted on 02/25/2009 12:01:38 PM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Crystal Cove

“Are you saying that Punahou, Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard University are Muslim schools?”

Please, you know exactly what I mean . . . he was raised a muslim, came to the U.S. and then went to our school. There’s no evidence that he changed his religious thinking one iota. His 57-state gaff, and his later “my muslim faith” gaffe were not by accident . . . he’s a muslim. If there were a shred of Christianity in this man, he’d have left the American-hating church in Chicago years ago and would never have brought his children to that church.

This man, his wife, and all his friends despise the U.S. and all it stands for. He must get the biggest chuckle out of us having been so stupid as to have put him in the White House.


32 posted on 02/25/2009 12:04:39 PM PST by laweeks
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To: SeafoodGumbo
I know President Obama is not Muslim

How do you know that for a fact?

33 posted on 02/25/2009 12:16:39 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: laweeks; All
Sorry, but I'm forced to post this entire mess again. I had foolishly believed that most people, by now, understood what Obama and his "Change" thing was about. If people here, with the wealth of information that has been presented over the past 6 months or so, are unable to understand it, we are indeed in trouble.

"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

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Excerpt from The American Thinker
Article:
Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
May 28, 2008

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation': "...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
--Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html
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From the Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam website, FinalCall.com...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml
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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
(note: I've been having trouble with this link lately, and might have to find another source for the Panther archives)
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717050055/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html
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Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html
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Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says
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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/
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[that's Michelle Obama with Mrs. Farrakhan. Mrs. Farrakhan is at center bottom wearing white]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/03/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhans-wife-together-in-photo/

Or,
http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/03/michelle-pictured-together-with-wife-of-louis-farrakhan/

Original piece from Jet Magazine itself available (apparently) with a free trial subscription to HighBeam Research:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-120033408.html

From: Jet [Magazine] | Date: July 26, 2004 | Author: | 700+ words
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition holds 33rd annual conference in Chicago.(National Report)
"Read the rest of this article with a FREE trial. Sign up below..."
https://www.highbeam.com/reg/reg1.aspx?full=yes&origurl=/doc/1G1-120033408.html
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Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

Video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him call Obama "The Messiah" And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farrakhan+messiah+obama&aq=0&oq=Farrakhan+messiah
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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"[Bill] Ayers' office door is decorated with pictures of Mumia Abu-Jamal, Che Guevara and Malcolm X."
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/d0efdf93-97dc-470f-ac41-b3b4e557b6f8

Photobucket
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From Bill Ayers' own red communist star-headed website...

Teaching Malcolm X

Karen Salazar, an LA teacher, was fired for being “too Afro-centric,” notably teaching The Autobiography of Malcolm X. At a time when banning books is back in style in many quarters, and the right to think at all is under steady and screaming attack, Salazar deserves the support of all citizens, teachers, students and parents. Find her students’ protest on You Tube. Speak up for free thinking and open dialog.

http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/teaching-malcolm-x/
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"While in prison, Malcolm X became a member of the Nation of Islam. After his parole in 1952, he became one of the Nation's leaders and chief spokesmen. For nearly a dozen years, he was the public face of the Nation of Islam. Tension between Malcolm X and Elijah Muhammad, head of the Nation of Islam, led to his departure from the organization in March 1964."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X
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Excerpt from The American Thinker
Article:
Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
May 28, 2008

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html
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From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL
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From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Religious-Thought-Anthology/dp/0664224598
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HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

34 posted on 02/25/2009 12:17:18 PM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

They may not believe, but to work with these wackos they still have to kind of get “into” it or at least into it’s corner.

Watching what he’s done in only a month I still say actions speak louder than words.

He may just be trying to gain favor with muslims so they will do his bidding.

I wouldn’t completely rule out the possibility that he may still be in the faith.

If he really was a muslim(I’m not saying he isn’t)I wonder how the average American would really feel about it. Would they really be able to trust him enough to vote for him?

And then there’s that whole al taqiyya thing...


35 posted on 02/25/2009 12:25:59 PM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: Califreak
He may just be trying to gain favor with muslims so they will do his bidding.

Certainly the far left is allied with the anti-American Muslims and Islamic terrorists. But Obama is a Marxist "intellectual", and everyone knows that 'Marxist intellectuals' aren't exactly religion-friendly, unless of course it's one of those many bogus commie-front 'religions' like Liberation Theology. Then they eagerly encourage 'religious' participation. The 'god' they worship does, however, wear a long white beard.

36 posted on 02/25/2009 12:41:38 PM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Not disagreeing with anything you said, however, he can still be an islamofascist as well as a communist. He is an islamofascist, foreign born, communist b-turd, IMHO.


37 posted on 02/25/2009 12:42:17 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

He’s an elitist ‘intellectual’. These people scoff at religion (all religions). They may ‘act’ as if they don’t in order to attract more supporters, especially from the Black and Hispanic communities, where religion is held in high regard. But don’t believe for a minute that someone like Obama is truly ‘religious’ in any way (other than the Marxist ‘belief’ system). Marxist Black Liberation Theology is NOT an accepted religion. It was banned by several popes. Please refer to my earlier post for more info (the loooooong one).


38 posted on 02/25/2009 1:19:06 PM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

The idea that his heart leans toward both ideologies is very disturbing because both of them are intent on world domination.

I don’t know very much about it, but from what little I do know, the two forces combined and acting together could be globally devastating to humanity.

This is interesting:

Russia and Islam are not Separate:

Why Russia backs Al-Qaeda

http://cicentre.com/Documents/russia_islam_not_separate.html

“A key distinction between Russian and American attitudes towards Islamic terrorism is that while for America terrorism is largely seen as an exterior menace, Russia uses terrorism as an object as a tool of the state for manipulation in and outside the home country. Islamic terrorism is only part of the world of terrorism. Long before Islamic terrorism became a global threat, the KGB had used terrorism to facilitate the victory of world Communism.”


39 posted on 02/25/2009 1:45:38 PM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

taqiyya bump


40 posted on 02/25/2009 4:14:44 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1975709/posts


41 posted on 02/25/2009 11:01:38 PM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

BTTT


42 posted on 02/28/2009 11:42:02 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "This isn't offensive to my Muslim faith."

43 posted on 03/06/2009 6:32:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
I know President Obama is not Muslim

What are you, some kinda retard?

44 posted on 03/06/2009 6:34:58 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000

Our poor nation.

The President is a marxist crypto-muslim.

By the way, what CHRISTIAN CHURCH did the THIEF IN CHIEF attend last Sunday?

I mean, as a Kenyan crook we all knew he was going to steal everything in sight once he got to the White House but 2 TRILLION DOLLARS?.

This is like a bad Twilight Zone episode.

45 posted on 03/06/2009 7:18:30 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: All

BLOG:

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2009/01/barack-obama-and-islam-an-ongoing-saga.html

“Barack Obama and Islam: An Ongoing Saga”

by Daniel Pipes
January 19, 2009
updated March 18, 2009


46 posted on 03/20/2009 11:59:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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