Posted on 02/25/2009 8:20:19 PM PST by model B
As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.
I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.
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The legal definition of Armor Piercing Ammunition (established by congress) is by bullet core material. It is not performance based.
Considered by whom? All bullets and ammunition is considered "cop killers" by the loony left Democrats. Full Metal Jacketed (FMJ) bullets are not now considered "Armor Piercing" by either our military or federal law.
No. The ban on Armor Piercing Handgun Ammunition had nothing to do with teflon coatings. It relates the bullet core materials such as iron, steel, brass, etc.
The terminology "Cop Killer Bullets" has no legal or technical meaning by any group with recognized standing. It is politically fabricated terminology used for emotional impact.
It certainly will be his first legislative test. It's not difficult to give away other people's money. It becomes much more difficult when stripping US citizens of Constitutionally guaranteed rights.
If the GOP can stop this, it means there's still hope. If they can't, it means that we're truly in a new era, a new paradigm and God help us.
Holder wants to ban all semi-auto handguns as “Assault Weapons” along with all semi-auto rifles.
Sort of. The "Armor Piercing Ammunition" ban relates only to handgun ammunition. The catch is: "Handgun Ammunition" has never been defined. The subject is very cloudy.
Obama does hold one weapon over the SCOTUS, and that is court packing. All Obama needs to do is threaten that, and the SCOTUS will bend to his will. And, they can use the nuclear option to ram it through.
No, it is not performance based. Congress defined "Armor Piercing Handgun ammunition by the materials used in the bullet cores.
Obama supports HR 45 with an insurance requirement.
That is a great link to bookmark though.
I am sure that the founding fathers would say that when the federal government comes to take your guns, it is time to use your guns.
I love how badly this jives with the libmedia’s standard narrative, I.e. “Those idiot hick conservatives are flocking to gun stores for no good reason”.
“The interesting aspect is that AG Holder clearly kept the Heller decision in mind.”
He merely mentions it but he didn’t really have the actual decision in mind. If he did, then he would know that an assault weapons ban would be not only unconstitutional according to the current sitting majority but as Scalia pointed out in his majority opinion, the one tack that the minority (Stevens, Breyer) took was an attempt to allow only militia type weapons, a conclusion of which came from the US vs. Miller case.
Scalia, in perhaps the biggest bitch slap of the minority opinion said about his opponents using the Miller case:
“It is particularly wrongheaded to read Miller for more than what it said, because the case did not even purport to be a thorough examination of the Second Amendment. Justice Stevens claims, post, at 42, that the opinion reached its conclusion “[a]fter reviewing many of the same sources that are discussed at greater length by the Court today.” ...
“The Government’s Miller brief thus provided scant discussion of the history of the Second Amendment—and the Court was presented with no counterdiscussion. As for the text of the Court’s opinion itself, that discusses none of the history of the Second Amendment. It assumes from the prologue that the Amendment was designed to preserve the militia, 307 U. S., at 178 (which we do not dispute), and then reviews some historical materials dealing with the nature of the militia, and in particular with the nature of the arms their members were expected to possess, id., at 178-182. Not a word (not a word) about the history of the Second Amendment. This is the mighty rock upon which the dissent rests its case.”
“We may as well consider at this point (for we will have to consider eventually) what types of weapons Miller permits. Read in isolation, Miller’s phrase “part of ordinary military equipment” could mean that only those weapons useful in warfare are protected. That would be a startling reading of the opinion, since it would mean that the National Firearms Act’s restrictions on machineguns (not challenged in Miller) might be unconstitutional, machineguns being useful in warfare in 1939. We think that Miller’s “ordinary military equipment” language must be read in tandem with what comes after: “[O]rdinarily when called for [militia] service [able-bodied] men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.” 307 U. S., at 179. The traditional militia was formed from a pool of men bringing arms “in common use at the time” for lawful purposes like self-defense.”
The operative part being “That would be a startling reading of the opinion, since it would mean that the National Firearms Act’s restrictions on machineguns (not challenged in Miller) might be unconstitutional”
IOW, if we keep Heller and go along with the minority opinion on the _types_ of guns, then Machineguns will be constitutional.... along with every other assault rifle.;-)
They’ve resurrected all the old terminology for full emotion-laden demonization effect, despite the dearth of facts to support their push. They’re so unimaginative that they couldn’t even come up with new rhetoric.
One thing that is very different today, from ten years ago - a heckuva lot more people own AR-type firearms.
That’s scary.
Ping.
I still have my hat from when folks at The Firing Line made the first batch of them. I’ve taken to wearing it again.
This isn’t me, but I have this exact hat:
http://www.freekentucky.com/reality/rooftops.gif
Thought that any bullet could kill a cop....
Correct. Also, see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe#History
http://www.thefiringline.com/HCI/molon_labe.htm
Travis I am just at the point in “Enemies Foreign and Domestic where the BATFE guy takes the yellow cards from the gun dealer. A week before the ban goes into effect in your first book.
I have a feeling I better hurry up or the news will get ahead of my reading!
If I didn’t have to work for a living I wouldn’t be able to put the book down.
These guys are morons.
Delicious, delightful morons.
:)
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