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Modern-Day Secessionists Will Hold a Conference on Leaving the Union
http://www.nysun.com/national/modern-day-secessionists-will-hold-a-conference/40456/ ^

Posted on 02/26/2009 5:41:03 PM PST by teg_76

Here come the new Green Mountain Boys. The Middlebury Institute, a think tank devoted to the study of separatism, secession, and self-determination, is planning the First North American Secessionist Convention in Burlington, Vt.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: secession
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To: KrisKrinkle

there is a red blue state map out there sized toopulation


21 posted on 02/26/2009 6:29:46 PM PST by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: SkyPilot
The best thing Palin could do is to start making secessionist noise.

It would throw the marxists currently in control of the government of the United States into a precarious situation.

If PALIN wants to make HISTORY, the time is now.

22 posted on 02/26/2009 6:30:54 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: KrisKrinkle
It'll be neighbor v neighbor and it'll be ugly.

What you talkin bout Willis?

Once a State says its going, its national guard is the armed forces.

23 posted on 02/26/2009 6:34:04 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: KrisKrinkle
It'll be neighbor v neighbor and it'll be ugly.

And brother against brother, father against son, etc.. Yes, it will be very ugly. As I've said for many years on this forum, it will make CWI look like a walk in the park on a warm spring day.

May God help us.

5.56mm

24 posted on 02/26/2009 6:34:26 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: teg_76

how about we call it renewing the union


25 posted on 02/26/2009 6:35:45 PM PST by GeronL (Will bankrupting America lead to socialism?)
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To: pctech

I figure the 2010 midterms are the big test; if we can’t win the House back after all this garbage that is going on, I’ll know we’ve lost permanently, and I would totally support secession.


26 posted on 02/26/2009 6:39:31 PM PST by teg_76
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To: teg_76

I apologize to everyone for posting an old article. I didn’t check the date. Just wanted to get this topic out there to see what people’s thoughts were.


27 posted on 02/26/2009 6:40:11 PM PST by teg_76
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To: KrisKrinkle

Well the problem is how do you succeed when everyone is scattered all over the US, it isn’t like the Confederacy where people stayed where they already lived. The other issue is the money it would cost, because there aren’t any rich plantation owners to help finance such an endeavor as was available back then. That’s just a historical statement.

Most important is the proposal for a North American Union that, the Illuminati, Masons, Rhodes Scholars etc are promoting, as push for the NWO....noone escapes their plan, at least that’s their intention...not to mention the jhadists who want everyone to be muslim, it’s bizarro world already.

There isn’t much time left, and families aren’t going to break up as some are dems and some repubs in same families. Jesus is coming, as well as the next depression, the China Wars and Armegeddon...

I read the book “Financial Armegeddon” and it’s prophetically close, as is the possiblity that we may have a short lived recovery; then all this spending will cause us to hit rock bottom afterwards. Another scenario is no recovery, and we continue the downward spiral! It’s time to prepare for all of that, not to be moving around, as I don’t subscribe to pre trib, mid trib or post trib...I just want to prepare and occupy until.....and when the trumpet blows I’m outa here.


28 posted on 02/26/2009 6:42:14 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Rome2000

“Once a State says its going, its national guard is the armed forces.”

Armed forces which will be putting down the segment of the State population that doesn’t want to go, which segment will be resisting said armed forces. Not to mention the part of the National Guard that won’t want to go and will be part of the resistance.

And what do you mean “once a State says its going”? Who do you think is going to make the decision to stay or go? What makes you think the decision process will be peaceful?


29 posted on 02/26/2009 6:57:10 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: metmom

Thanks metmom. I vaguely recall seeing or hearing something about this back then. VERY old news in any case ‘^)


30 posted on 02/26/2009 7:06:25 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. - B.Franklin)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Not to mention the part of the National Guard that won’t want to go and will be part of the resistance.

That part doesn't have any Officers to lead them.

Small potatoes.

31 posted on 02/26/2009 7:08:47 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Texas Fossil
No Secession, but declare States Rights as per Constitution

I'd like to believe you, I truly would. But the liberals have such a stranglehold on the judiciary, that they will declare anything we do unconstitutional, even if we amended it to limit what the judiciary can do about it (see California and Prop 8).

Heck, the courts now are so full of themselves with their perceived omnipotence, they will counter-attack viciously to any perceived threat to their power. They need to be seriously reigned in, and if they don't submit, be impeached, tried and put in prison.

The liberals, too, are in full swagger to build as much of a socialist state as possible before the pendulum swings back to a Repub prez and possibly even a Repub-dominated Congress. It will be hard, if not impossible, to undue the things the Dems are capable of doing in the next four years given their penchant for being very group-oriented (everything they do is "study-grouped" and "work-shopped" first.) I know. I've seen it. We all have.
Think of the seminar people that go on talk-TV and can stay on-message, and talk over everyone else to get their message out - and they all use the same buzzwords. Where do you think they get those buzzwords? Where do you think they get the training to to that? Believe me, it takes training and experience to go on TV and do that!
Some shows, notably on FNC, are wise to these people, especially Megan Kelly, when she accuses someone of trying to talk over her - that is priceless and it tells me that someone in the media finally gets it!

But, you tell me: How do we get around the liberals, who will put up every barrier and stand in our way to protect their own view of "America" (remember, they think they're right, too)?

32 posted on 02/26/2009 7:10:09 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: jeffc

I find no fault with your concerns or logic.

We have to options as I see it:

1. Attempt to rein in this through the Constitution (via States Rights) and the threat of Voter Rage.

2. Lock & Load

I am not for the latter yet, but if it must be— So be it.


33 posted on 02/26/2009 7:25:21 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
I find no fault with your concerns or logic. We have to options as I see it:

1. Attempt to rein in this through the Constitution (via States Rights) and the threat of Voter Rage.

2. Lock & Load

I am not for the latter yet, but if it must be— So be it

I also prefer option "1", and fear option "2" (you never know where it will lead). I pray for "1" and prepare for "2".

34 posted on 02/26/2009 7:31:58 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: KrisKrinkle
"I don't see a clean breakup on a regional or State basis"

There won't be....and there shouldn't be. This needs a "revolt", not a "civil war".

In the last revolution, the "Tories", in large part, were killed or driven out of the colonies into Canada.

This time there is only one attribute by which to determine the enemy:
The answer to the question: "Do you believe in and support a Constitutional Republic as founded in 1787?"

This determination has no "gray" area. It is purely "yes" or "no". Any response other than "yes" translates to a "no".

35 posted on 02/26/2009 7:32:31 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: KrisKrinkle
“For one thing, as hurricane Katrina has glaringly shown, the Federal government is a clumsy, bureaucratic, politicized, and insensitive instrument...and states and localities that give themselves over to depending on it are in real trouble.”

The Media lie to you.

Big Surprise.

I was working the airlift for New Orleans after Katrina. Within hours we had pumps from the Netherlands flown in, food from all over the American nation, water, medicene, tents, blankets, and the 82nd Airborne as enforcement.

Some came from C-17s, and some came from 737s from Southwest, American, and Delta. The cost per airplane was (back then) about $39,000.

The State of Louisiana provided .....................nothing. We had a State Army National Guard General who was corrupt and a drunk. Gov Blanco was defensive and you could not contact her.

If the US Military means the "Feds" then things will get done. If not, good luck.

36 posted on 02/26/2009 7:49:10 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Alaska doesn’t need the USA? Give me a break. Alaska has one of the smallest populations of any state, and they’re further apart from each other than residents in any other state. Any kind of real organized defense would be impossible for Alaska. Without the United States military, Alaska would be back in the hands of Russia faster than you can spit. Putin would cream in his briefs if Alaska seceded.


37 posted on 02/26/2009 7:49:38 PM PST by Melas
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To: teg_76

I would prefer to keep the country and convert it back to free market capitalism. Everybody wins that way. Even the idiots will benefit from capitalism.


38 posted on 02/26/2009 7:51:13 PM PST by Sir Gawain (With Obama's "tax cut" I can afford a torch and a pitchfork in just TWO WEEKS!)
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To: Sir Gawain

Well said. Thanks!


39 posted on 02/26/2009 7:52:34 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: teg_76

I think I read somewhere that when Texas joined the Union it did so with a proviso that they could leave at any time if they wanted to.

Any truth to this or have I been reading too much of “US History for Dummies”?


40 posted on 02/26/2009 8:04:24 PM PST by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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