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7 Major "Missing Links" Since Darwin
National Geographic ^ | March 2009 | Zina Deretsky, National Science Foundation

Posted on 03/01/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by Salman

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To: oldmanreedy

You mock the Truth at your own peril. Here’s another great quote by an ardent atheist:

“I had motives for not wanting the world to have meaning; consequently assumed it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption . The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics; he is also concerned to prove there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do... For myself, as no doubt for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system and liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom.”
— Aldous Huxley, “Confessions of a Professed Atheist,” Report: Perspective on the News, Vol. 3, June, 1966, p.19. [Grandson of evolutionist Thomas Huxley, Aldous Huxley was one of the most influential writers and philosophers of the 20th century.]

At its core evolution is about getting rid of all morality so that the perversions of atheists can go unfettered. Whether it be lust for power or lust for the flesh, that’s the way your hardcore Commie works.


181 posted on 03/03/2009 6:53:32 AM PST by ToGodBeTheGlory (I'll take the Word of God over "science" every time.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Posting the same thing on multiple threads is basically spamming.

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Guilty as charged. I asked the same question of you on multiple threads in response to your posting the same comment on multiple threads (cf., post 18 of the 7 missing links thread, and post 8 of the star children thread).

I guess that makes us both guilty of spamming.


182 posted on 03/03/2009 7:28:30 AM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

mine were seperate comments at seperate times - yours seemed kind of systematic, within minutes - I was replying to one, then there was another, it was like whackamole!


183 posted on 03/03/2009 7:31:16 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: MHGinTN
Which brings me to another persepctive, that spacetime has existence in other expressions which we cannot currently sense yet they exist simyultaneous to our continuum

Did you ever read the book Flatland? It's a story about a bunch of two-dimensional beings that live on a plane (a flat surface, not an airplane). One of the parts I found most memorable was the discussion of how a sphere moving through their plane would appear to them as a circle that got bigger and then smaller again--they wouldn't be able to see its height, because they couldn't look across the third dimension. I started to think of prophets as people who could see across the fourth dimension, while most of us just experience time as we move through it.

184 posted on 03/03/2009 8:17:38 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Alamo-Girl
Because it happened.

I don't see why this is a reason at all. And I don't see why, even if there is a timeless spaceless not-thing outside, that means it's God (in the usual sense of a consciously acting entity, anyway). I think I was right that this is something that seems intuitively obvious to you but that you're not going to be able to explain it to me. I appreciate the effort, though.

185 posted on 03/03/2009 8:22:50 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
In the Old Testament there are many examples of this 'seeing across the fourth dimension', like the episode where the prophet and a student are sitting in a fireless camp, hiding from the 'badguys' and the student moans they are in great peril; the prophet tells the student to look at the hills around them and the student looks but sees nothing; thent he porphet tells him to look again with greater depth, and the student sees the 'campfires' of a heavenly host there to protect them.

I've used the analogy of Flatland many times, and in my current writing project I address the notions as they arose in my past while viewing Sagan's 'Cosmos' and his explanation of same.

186 posted on 03/03/2009 8:22:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I appreciate the effort, though.

You are quite welcome!

187 posted on 03/03/2009 8:27:56 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; TXnMA
As TXnMA said, the existence of patterns in a set of numbers proves it is not random.

On the largest scale, maybe. But won't a random sequence have local clusters that look like patterns? Since the human mind loves patterns, we tend to focus on those local clusters and elevate their importance--that's how gamblers think they're on "lucky streaks" or that a slot machine is "due." And the length of a random sequence you have to look at in order to find a local pattern is often surprisingly small. One has to be really careful in concluding that one has found a true pattern.

188 posted on 03/03/2009 8:35:03 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; TXnMA; betty boop
But won't a random sequence have local clusters that look like patterns?

A pattern involves repetition.

For more information on Auto-Correlation

189 posted on 03/03/2009 8:47:27 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
A pattern involves repetition.

I guess you mean repetition in multiple separate "places," which is implied by what I can understand of that auto-correlation page. Because if you're flipping a coin, you're going to get HTTHTTHTTHTT before long, which is certainly a pattern and contains repetition but doesn't invalidate the randomness of the whole coinflip sequence. Similarly if you generate a random sequence of the digits 1 through 5, at some point you'll get 12345.

190 posted on 03/03/2009 9:47:12 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; TXnMA; betty boop
If the series is infinite, anything that can happen, will.

But auto-correlation looks at a finite set.

Indeed, space/time is finite - so auto-correlation in nature is very significant.

Or to put it another way, some mathematical concepts like infinity do not translate to the physical world. A random number generator will eventually halt even though we can conceptualize as if it never would halt.

191 posted on 03/03/2009 10:29:10 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ToGodBeTheGlory
"At its core evolution is about getting rid of all morality so that the perversions of atheists can go unfettered. Whether it be lust for power or lust for the flesh, that’s the way your hardcore Commie works."

This is perfect. I love you TGBTG!!! I love you so much, if I met you I would probably kiss you!!!

P.S. Isn't it spelled 'preversions'?

192 posted on 03/03/2009 5:09:05 PM PST by oldmanreedy
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To: oldmanreedy

I’m glad you find perverted behavior amusing. You better hope you’re still laughing when you face God.


193 posted on 03/03/2009 5:26:58 PM PST by ToGodBeTheGlory (I'll take the Word of God over "science" every time.)
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To: mountainlion
I saw a drawing in one evolution book that was quite old that had Neanderthal as a very long haired ape. I liked the picture. It showed a lot of imagination. I think most of the pictures are mostly imagination. There is little proof of what the creatures look like. They had nice pictures of Nebraska man also.

If you could so kindly point me to a SCIENCE book with a picture of Nebraska Man in it, I'll send you a check.

(Don't spend too much time, because no such thing exists. The picture appeared once, in a British tabloid magazine. Correction: it appears, I'm sure, in a bunch of creationist books for some strange reason.)
194 posted on 03/04/2009 7:18:27 AM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: mountainlion
If Evolution depended on major changes of species then there should be millions of “mistakes” that go nowhere and have only one member of the change. Some “changes” would be sterile and not able to reproduce. Others would not be able to survive. There would also be millions of missing links that create really strange species. If evolution were true then there should be an infinite number of species. Some of the species should then evolve back to original species.

Say what? Who taught you what evolutionary theory states?! Would you consider the dinosaurs "really strange species?" I think we have plenty of fossil evidence for them. An "infinite" number? Do you understand the extraordinary conditions necessary for fossilization?
195 posted on 03/04/2009 7:22:09 AM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: whattajoke

Say what? Who taught you what evolutionary theory states?!

Is there a clear concise “official” book on evolution? I don’t think so. Some of the theories of evolution are learned on sites like this with the exchange of information and ideas. Most are highly polarized and hard to talk to.


196 posted on 03/04/2009 8:05:13 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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