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In-state tuition dangles in reach of illegal immigrants
Denver Post ^ | 03/01/2009 | Tim Hoover

Posted on 03/01/2009 8:40:37 AM PST by george76

A bill to allow illegal immigrants to qualify for in-state college tuition may have the best chance of passing in years because of the support of some key Colorado Republican businessmen.

The latest effort, pushed by state Sen. Chris Romer, D-Denver, would allow illegal immigrants ... to get the in-state tuition rate at state colleges and universities, which would save the undocumented students thousands of dollars. The bill is scheduled to get its first committee hearing Thursday.

A bill passed last year clarified that U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants are Colorado residents and thus eligible for in-state tuition. Romer's bill is aimed at foreign-born children who enter the country illegally with their undocumented parents.

Similar bills have been proposed before, but Romer said what's different this time is the public backing of some heavy-hitting Republicans in the business community.

Those include Dick Monfort, co-owner of the Colorado Rockies and chairman of the University of Northern Colorado Board of Trustees, which has endorsed the legislation. Alex Cranberg, chairman of Aspect Energy and a top GOP donor, also supports the bill.

Stan Weekes, state director of the Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform, which favors tougher restrictions on illegal immigration, said the bill is unfair to American students from other states who have to pay the higher tuition.

"Do we open it to my nephew in Nebraska to come in with the same in-state tuition?" Weekes said.

Ten states, including Kansas, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Utah, have passed legislation to offer the in-state rate to undocumented students; 30 states have considered such legislation since 2001, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

This year, Colorado is among five states considering such a law.

Arkansas and Missouri are considering bills to prohibit illegal immigrants from getting in-state tuition.

(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: academia; aliens; chrisromer; dreamact; illegal; illegalalien; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrants; instatetuition; romer
Romer is the kid of that other dope.

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1 posted on 03/01/2009 8:40:37 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

the illegal alien lobby is extrmely powerful.


2 posted on 03/01/2009 8:42:37 AM PST by Rosemont
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To: dynachrome; MileHi; MtnClimber; Dumb_Ox; SunkenCiv; familyop; GSWarrior; jan in Colorado; ...

Do you think all graduates from Colorado high schools should receive in-state tuition?

Total Votes = 517

yes ... 36.55 %

no ... 59.18 %


3 posted on 03/01/2009 8:46:15 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Tim Hoover is functionally illiterate.

The proper term is Illegal Alien.

It has been used as such for over a hundred years.

There is a reason the Rocky Mountain News went under.

The Denver Post will soon follow suit.


4 posted on 03/01/2009 8:51:59 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: george76

Kansas has offered in-state tuition to illegals for the last several years while US citizens outside Kansas are charged about double in-state rates.


5 posted on 03/01/2009 8:57:31 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: george76

If the college or university **knows** they are illegal, why aren’t they calling the INS and police to have them arrested?

The entire headline is a complete disconnect!

A criminal comes knocking on the university or college door and the school officials are wondering about giving him or her instate tuition?!! Unbelievable! Arrest these criminals.


6 posted on 03/01/2009 9:11:26 AM PST by wintertime
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To: george76
Insanity! Illegals have more rights and privileges than American-born citizens!
7 posted on 03/01/2009 9:20:09 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks geo.


8 posted on 03/01/2009 9:23:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: george76

Unbelievable garbage!!! No wonder we’re going bankrupt. The sooner we get rid of these political thieves the better.


9 posted on 03/01/2009 9:39:19 AM PST by kenmcg (cOMMBYAH)
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To: george76

Colorado will soon go the way of California. I have a child in the CU system and one question...will the administration at these lovely institutions require that the illegal aliens produce the same level of proof of vaccinations as they do American citizens? My son has to get blood drawn and tested for the MMR because the nurse in 1991 forgot to put her initials down. And really, how many illegal immigrants are actually qualified to attend university? Will their illegal parents/grandparents fill out the FASFA form to get financial aid? Anyone have any information? Yes, I do understand the unfairness of it and believe that any illegal alien should not be receiving a dime of American tax dollars to support their criminal behavior.


10 posted on 03/01/2009 9:41:21 AM PST by ebersole
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To: george76

Let’s face it. The Reconquista has happened. We have allowed so many Hispanics, illegal and LEGAL to immigrate here that they have reached tipping power. This could have been prevented if Bush had enforced the immigration laws for the eight years he was in office, instead of only the final year, and if a GOP controlled Congress had dared to change the legal immigration rules. But no. That was not done. And now there is now hope, and the Dems have arranged to stay in power permanently. In the future we will witness both parties competing to be the one that can provide the most benefits and freebees to a large, hungry, greedy group of people who grew up in foreign countries that preached the benefits of socialism to them from birth, but did not have the wherewithall to actually carry it out. Unfortunately, neither do we.


11 posted on 03/01/2009 9:44:57 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Neoliberalnot

Giving in-state tuition to illegals, while making US citizens and legal residents from other states pay more, helps the administrators get brownie points for increasing the “diversity” of the student body. Not that all out-of-state students are white or that no illegals are white, but pecentage-wise it probably helps with the cherished goal of lowering the percentage of white students.


12 posted on 03/01/2009 10:36:51 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: La Lydia

Hispanics, especially legal immigrants are natural conservatives. Their religious and family values are very similar to those of the Republicans. People that confuse legal Hispanics with illegals are part of the reason that they are aligning with the Democrats instead of republicans. There is a big difference between legal and illegal Hispanics. It would be helpful if conservatives understood that and acted accordingly. Your post is a perfect example of why Hispanics have a hard time warming up to the conservatives.


13 posted on 03/01/2009 11:56:20 AM PST by ga medic
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To: george76

We should never let illegal aliens into our colleges.
There are too many Americans struggling to get in.
Paying for them is even worse. It is promoting parasitism.


14 posted on 03/01/2009 12:16:52 PM PST by BuffaloJack (I want President Obama to Fail !)
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To: george76; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


15 posted on 03/01/2009 12:19:06 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: ga medic

You know not that of which you speak. Could be you heard people say it so often you believe it. But that is the line Anglo Republicans tell other Anglo Republicans, and then can’t figure out what is going on. Perhaps, and only perhaps, their religious and family values are similar to those of Republicans. You, I believe, are stuck back in the 70s and 80s, when what you say was probably the case. I watch Spanish language TV almost exclusively and in 2009, their religious and family values are not as you describe. Abortion rates where I live are higher than any other group except blacks, and the rate of out of wedlock births is higher. What’s more, the casa chica has moved to the U.S. as well, and is easier to maintain because the government kicks in most of the support. That said, their economic values are very different. And these are people who came here for ECONOMIC reasons, not religious and family values reasons. They came here from countries whose governments preached the benefits of Socialism for decades, in the schools and in public life, without ever being able to really deliver. In the case of Mexico, where I lived for several years, it was ongoing indoctrination. So what the Democrats have done and the Republicans have acquiesced in is to bring in a large number of new Democratic voters. The vast majority are never going to be Republicans until the GOP outbids the Democrats for them. Oh, and I am Hispanic. I was born in Los Angeles and educated in parochial schools. People like me who were not socialized as Socialists are conservative by nature. But we are a minority. And those who were, aren’t. It really comes down to the old “He who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support — and vote — of Paul.”


16 posted on 03/01/2009 12:52:11 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia; chicagolady; gubamyster; All

La Lydia answered this comment: “Your post is a perfect example of why Hispanics have a hard time warming up to the conservatives.”

“You know not that of which you speak. Could be you heard people say it so often you believe it. But that is the line Anglo Republicans tell other Anglo Republicans, and then can’t figure out what is going on. Perhaps, and only perhaps, their religious and family values are similar to those of Republicans. You, I believe, are stuck back in the 70s and 80s, when what you say was probably the case.

I watch Spanish language TV almost exclusively and in 2009, their religious and family values are not as you describe. Abortion rates where I live are higher than any other group except blacks, and the rate of out of wedlock births is higher. What’s more, the casa chica has moved to the U.S. as well, and is easier to maintain because the government kicks in most of the support. That said, their economic values are very different. And these are people who came here for ECONOMIC reasons, not religious and family values reasons. They came here from countries whose governments preached the benefits of Socialism for decades, in the schools and in public life, without ever being able to really deliver. In the case of Mexico, where I lived for several years, it was ongoing indoctrination. So what the Democrats have done and the Republicans have acquiesced in is to bring in a large number of new Democratic voters. The vast majority are never going to be Republicans until the GOP outbids the Democrats for them.

Oh, and I am Hispanic. I was born in Los Angeles and educated in parochial schools. People like me who were not socialized as Socialists are conservative by nature. But we are a minority. And those who were, aren’t. It really comes down to the old “He who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support — and vote — of Paul.”

Wonderful testimony. Thank you for posting it.


17 posted on 03/01/2009 12:59:57 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: La Lydia
... Anglo Republicans tell other Anglo ...

Is Anglo Spanish for honkie?

18 posted on 03/01/2009 2:14:37 PM PST by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: kitchen

No. It is not disrespectful or insulting, merely descriptive. Anglos is just short for Anglo-Saxon, that is northern Europeans, as opposed to gachupín, a person from Spain. Gringo, in some settings is pejorative, and in others not.


19 posted on 03/01/2009 2:44:50 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: BuffaloJack

We should never let illegal aliens into our colleges.
There are too many Americans struggling to get in.
Paying for them is even worse. It is promoting parasitism.””

And this is precisely a primary reason why tuition is so outrageous for white citizens. Whites have no set-aside scholarships and are required to meet higher standards, involving actual accomplishments, in order to gain entry.


20 posted on 03/01/2009 3:07:10 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: george76; 2ndDivisionVet; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
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21 posted on 03/01/2009 3:43:21 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: La Lydia

You seem to think you have all the answers. I know a little bit more than you give me credit for. It has nothing to do with what I have heard or believe and everything to do with the experiences I have had, as a Hispanic who has traveled throughout the country working with the Hispanic communities on Disaster preparation plans.

In all fairness I don’t watch Spanish language TV. I don’t watch TV much, so I don’t know what is portrayed. I do know that Hispanics in the communities I work with are hard working, anti-illegal immigration, and strong Catholics. They haven’t been indoctrinated into socialism, they see it as being responsible for the appalling conditions in the countries they left. I can’t tell you how much I hear them say that they left their own countries to escape socialism, and to find the land of opportunity. They do not want this country overtaken by socialists.

I work in the communities, and I talk to large numbers of Hispanic people. Many see the Republican party as the anti-Hispanic party. There are times I don’t really blame them. So many see legal Hispanic immigrants as a threat to our country and its culture. So many fail to recognize the immense contributions that Hispanics have made to this country. There is no reason that I see that legal Hispanic immigrants shouldn’t be welcomed into this country. As long as Republicans believe that there is, they will continue to vote for Democrats. It has consequences. Barack Obama is just one of many.


22 posted on 03/01/2009 3:57:33 PM PST by ga medic
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To: dynachrome

Do you think all graduates from Colorado high schools should receive in-state tuition?

Total Votes = 1189

yes
41.54 %

no
53.74 %

I don’t know
2.859 %

I don’t care
1.850 %


23 posted on 03/01/2009 3:59:34 PM PST by pattty
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To: ga medic

“I do know that Hispanics in the communities I work with are hard working, anti-illegal immigration, and strong Catholics.” Hear here! My experience as well. There is a thuggish class of illegals who prey off of the folks we’ve come to respect as US though from Hispanic background. We all would do well to realize no criminal element should be able to cause US to reject hardworking, legal, fellow residents.


24 posted on 03/01/2009 4:01:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: george76; dynachrome

Do you think all graduates from Colorado high schools should receive in-state tuition? (Read Related Story)
Total Votes = 1232
yes 41.31 %
no 54.05 %
I don’t know 2.840 %
I don’t care 1.785 %


25 posted on 03/01/2009 4:34:46 PM PST by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: george76

Too bad the Denver Pravda survived, instead of the RMN.


26 posted on 03/01/2009 4:40:22 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: dynachrome

The compost should have gone first.


27 posted on 03/01/2009 5:05:45 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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28 posted on 03/01/2009 5:58:52 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: ga medic

Well, more than 10 percent of the Mexican population now lives in EEUU. How would Mexicans feel if that many Chinese, in that large of a segment, moved to Mexico and began demanding Mexicans change the way they do things, and that Mexicans provide them with welfare benefits, free schooling for their children (try getting into UNAM as a foreigner without bribing someone), free medical care and “affordable” housing? These benefits are entitlements for legal immigrants to the U.S., and are provided at the expense of U.S. taxpayers. Wonder how the Mexican taxpayer would accept that situation? Many Hispanics who were born in this country, to parents who were born in this country, to grandparents who were born in this country, you get the idea, feel the way I do. Our new Hispanic residents might not, as you say, want this country overtaken by Socialists, but you certainly couldn’t tell it from their public rhetoric, or from the way they vote. They elected BO, who is a Socialist; they elected a MEChA mayor of LA; don’t get me started on the corrupt hell hole that is South Texas. The newspaper and television coverage of the presidential election, in Spanish, was even more biased than the Wash Post or MSNBC. Bottom line is, this country was not founded by, nor was it shaped by Hispanics. Hispanics ideas did not inform the Constitution, nor did they shape our legal system or our system of public education or our notions of private property. There is much about Spanish culture and my family background that I love and cling to, but I do not kid myself about the kind of societies it produces, having lived in two of them. I do not have all the answers, but when someone says that the 20 million or so non-native born Hispanics who are here, the vast majority of whom were peons before they crossed the border, are similar to Anglo Republicans, I figure that person does not know what he is talking about. You apparently enjoy the taste of the Kool-aid, so I really can’t tell you anything, can I? When even one in 10 Hispanics is a Republican, Cubans excepted, get back to me.


29 posted on 03/01/2009 6:55:51 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

I was talking about LEGAL immigrants or citizen Hispanics. Your first post indicated that legal immigration should be decreased. I disagree. Legal Hispanics are much different from illegals. I don’t like the two used interchangeably. I don’t know what an Anglo Republican is, but it doesn’t sound like a term that will be helpful in relating to minorities. Republicans are conservatives who reside legally in the US, and have beliefs in small government, hard work, the Constitution, and taking responsibility for the well being of self and family. Race should not be part of that definition.


30 posted on 03/01/2009 7:36:07 PM PST by ga medic
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