Posted on 03/02/2009 8:04:34 AM PST by Zakeet
This week, an Arizona gun shop goes on trial in state court in what law-enforcement officials are calling a landmark case against gun dealers who sell weapons that end up in the hands of Mexican drug cartels, fueling horrific violence south of the border that killed more than 6,000 people last year.
X-Caliber Guns LLC, is accused of knowingly selling hundreds of weapons, mostly AK-47s, to buyers who were posing as fronts for Mexican drug gangs. The gun store's owner, 47-year-old George Iknadosian, has maintained his innocence in court filings.
While the U.S. has long pressed Mexico to stop the flow of illegal drugs such as cocaine from crossing the border heading north, Mexico has complained that the U.S. doesn't stop the flow of guns heading south. Mexican and U.S. officials estimate that more than 90% of the weapons used by Mexican drug cartels come from the U.S.
Consider what happened last year in the Mexican border city of Nogales. The chief of the Sonora state anti-drug unit, Juan Manuel Pavón, was murdered by cartel hit men, just hours after attending a U.S. seminar on how to resist the tide of American firearms surging into Mexico. Several weapons linked to the crime traced back to X-Caliber Guns.
"The three highest priorities for me in terms of U.S. cooperation in the drugs war are these: guns, guns, guns," Mexican Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora said in a recent interview with The Wall Street Journal. "These drug groups intimidate society and government because of their firepower. And their firepower comes from the U.S."
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Sounds like Mexico needs tougher gun laws./s
Well there you go. They won't protect their borders so Americans must sacrifice their rights.
So you can comply with EVERY SINGLE LAW and still be prosecuted?
When his shift is over he’s going to sneak across the border and work for a contractor.
“X-Caliber Guns LLC, is accused of knowingly selling hundreds of weapons, mostly AK-47’s”
Since when were “AK47’s” available en-masse to John Q. Public?
Don’t we just love this liberal propaganda from the supposed voice of the financial community.
CANCEL YOUR WALL STREET JOURNAL SUBSCRIPTIONS NOW!!!”
thaDeetz
“THE BUYER WHO SOLD THE GUN TO THE NARCOTRAFFICANTES IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED IF ANYONE IS!”
BINGO!
And if this isn’t being done, then why not?
If I'm not mistaken, a .223 will penetrate a vest if aimed straight on...as will a shotgun slug.
Anyone know any different?
How long before shotgun slugs, .308 and 30.06 are outlawed?
That is exactly the point of AG Eric Holder, Senators Kennedy, Feinstein, McCarthy etc. Any weapon that can penetrate a level IIA kevlar vest is a “cop killer” and so the ammo should be banned. Any deer hunting rifle round will penetrate a thin vest. So there you have it.
Then you have been listening to liars and you are now spreading their lies. There is no truth to this anti-gun propaganda you are spewing here on this public discussion forum. If you had any shame you would report your post as an abuse and ask the moderator to remove both of our posts, assuming you aren't some gun banning liberal troll.
They are by the "new" definition, that being anything that can penetrate a standard, certified for pistol ammunition, vest. But then so is the ammo for my '40s vintage M1 Carbine.
They haven't put the "new definition" into the law, yet, but they are working on it.
That's a lot of spew from an uninformed person. I was shown exactly the necessary change to the stock PS90 to make it operate full auto. FN did a poor job on that part of the rifle. I won't buy one because the ATF could make the same simple change and indict me for possession of a full auto rifle without the appropriate approvals. They have stepped much further over the line when trying to hang honest gun owners. If you don't want to believe, that's fine. I refuse to purchase a PS90.
If that were the case, then you have definitely outed yourself as the gun banning troll you are. Only an idiot braggart or a gun hater would post something that inflammatory on a public forum where democrats are known to lurk. You likely qualify for both titles.
FN did a poor job on that part of the rifle.
It's a closed bolt, blow back operated rifle with a small amount of barrel recoil. The experts at the FNHB and the BATFE both decided that it was not readily convertible to a fully automatic fire.
I won't buy one because the ATF could make the same simple change and indict me for possession of a full auto rifle without the appropriate approvals.
I'm sure that they appreciate your suggestion here on a public internet forum.
They have stepped much further over the line when trying to hang honest gun owners.
No doubt with the help and instigation of useful idiots like yourself.
If you don't want to believe, that's fine. I refuse to purchase a PS90.
Refusing to buy and publicly declaring that it "can be converted to full auto with a very trivial change" are two entirely different things. Again, if you had any even a shred of decency, you would report your post as an abuse and ask the moderator to remove all of our posts. It's too bad that you apparently don't.
>>> Which [the P90], of course, is illegal for any US citizen to buy or possess. Only military and “law enforcement” may own them.
Where are you getting that? In certain states, maybe, but not by federal law. The feds will even OK your adding a full-auto happy button, as long as you jump through the paperwork hoops & pay the NFA fee.
I think that manufacturer’s pistol which uses the same ammo (whose model name I forget at the mo’) is no longer in production and likely banned from current import to the US, but not illegal to own.
Nevermind, sorry. I see others posted after, dunno if it’s my end or FR’s that I couldn’t get it to display replies to your post.
>>> Which [the P90], of course, is illegal for any US citizen to buy or possess. Only military and “law enforcement” may own them.
Where are you getting that? In certain states, maybe, but not by federal law. The feds will even OK your adding a full-auto happy button, as long as you jump through the paperwork hoops & pay the NFA fee.
I think that manufacturer’s pistol which uses the same ammo (whose model name I forget at the mo’) is no longer in production and likely banned from current import to the US, but not illegal to own.
Hmmm, I was under the impression that NFA compliance allowed for the alteration of the trigger group/lower receiver to full auto, for those with the wherewithall to do so.
I can’t decide whether I like the P90. I handled one (semi-auto) at the last gunshow, was tempted, but had to get the top of my shopping list accomplished. It struck me that surely the ammo is expensive and sometimes a chore to find.
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