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Limbaugh at CPAC (RINO David Frum whining)
The New Majority (of weasels) ^ | March 02, 2009 | David Frum

Posted on 03/02/2009 2:49:34 PM PST by SolidWood

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To: SolidWood

Frum is one of Rush’s “wizards of smarts.” The squishes.


21 posted on 03/02/2009 3:09:50 PM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: libbylu

Gee, Frum is concerned about Rush being aggressive and bombastic, smoking cigars, and having a tangled marital history

So it makes perfect sense that he supported none other than Rudy Giuliani for President last year. After all, Rudy isn’t known for being agressive and bombastic and having a tangled marital history. And he certainly doesn’t smoke cigars.

As for women voters trusting Obama...black women certainly do, but I doubt that has to do with his demeanor.

But what about white women, who are the suburban women voters I assume Frum is referring to?

Well, in the teeth of the worst economy in decades, an unpopular war, a President with a 25% approval rating, and being bombarded with an unprecedented advertising campaign based on a lie to the public and that spent far more than any prior effort in history, and an opponent who admittedly didn’t seem all that in command of the economy and solutions, and as a matter of fact is known for being agressive and bombastic and has his own tangled marital history...those white women voted for McCain 53-46. the exact same overwhelmnig mandate the press keeps telling us Obama got.

Obama did worse among white women than Gore(49%) or Clinton(48%), and marginally better than Kerry(44%).

Given all that’s happened the past few months, I’d say if the election were held tomorrow, he’d do a bit worse than 46%, probably below Kerry’s number.


22 posted on 03/02/2009 3:10:04 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Travis McGee

Frum is the poster boy for arrogant “conservative” pundits who have no use for working class conservative views. He attacks every true conservative with personal gusto — Sarah Palin being the most prominent. I used to think he had a problem with conservative populism. As time passed and the rhetorical attacks on conservatives have grown more personal and catty, there is legitimacy to the view that he (adn others like Kathleen Parker) simply have no respect for people who did not study at Harvard or summer on the Cape. In short, he is an unworthy snob.


23 posted on 03/02/2009 3:11:09 PM PST by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: jeltz25

If McCain hadn’t been the nominee the GOP would have had a better shot. McCain and Bambi agree on way too much, illegal immigration,global warming, etc.


24 posted on 03/02/2009 3:13:25 PM PST by libbylu (Sarah - the light of the midnight sun)
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To: SolidWood
He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.

Uh, just women, David? Sounds like someone is smitten with a man crush..

25 posted on 03/02/2009 3:15:04 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: LRS

Not that David couldn’t stand a few dozen crunches a day himself, and maybe a jog around the block after dinner.


26 posted on 03/02/2009 3:16:38 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: LRS

There’s little doubt Davey would love to make sweet music on the skin flute with the honed Messiah!


27 posted on 03/02/2009 3:22:05 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: libbylu

Perhaps. I think once the eocnomy collapsed in mid-September, the markets totally imploded in October, and the full effect of Obama’s 300M spending advatnage became felt, there wasn’t really a realistic chance of winning.

Could another guy at the top have won another state or two? Possibly.

No Republican was winning any of the Kerry states. Just wasn’t happening.

The states in the west like CO, NM and NM were all big enough blowouts that the guy at the top didn’t matter. When you lose a state by 15 it’s tough to say someone else would have won it.

The 2 very close states IN and NC that were decided by less than .5%? Maybe. So we get 200 EVs and still lose.

VA? I think McCain probably did as well as anybody given his military background and connections there. The dems went hard after VA, spent oodles of cash, the demos are trending their way. And they had big wins with Kaine and Webb and Mark Warner’s 65% coattails this year.

And then we have OH and FL? McCain actually did better than W among whites in FL but lost because hispanics went from +17 for W to +18 for Obama and he won the state by 2. Somehow I doubt a more conservative anti-immigration guy would have done better with hispanics and made the difference.

But all that is history now.

I don’t think the shifts were enough to be permanent in most places. I think IN and NC probably shift back, although the dems have won consecutive gov races and Dole lost there by 12. Her poor showing really dragged McCain down in NC and he still almost pulled it out.

The bottom line is what happens with the economy. If things get better and turn around, it will be very tough for the future. Just as if things had gone great from 77-80, Carter would have been reelected easily.

If things don’t get better and even get worse, those Bush states from 04 will swing back pretty fast and then the real test will be if some of the blue states like MI, NJ, PA, maybe even CA start to wake up and get fed up with Obama.


28 posted on 03/02/2009 3:23:46 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: SolidWood
On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of “responsibility,” and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.

LOL

I'll bet it was hard to write this article, with that "tingle" running up both of Davie's legs.

29 posted on 03/02/2009 3:29:20 PM PST by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: SolidWood

In people like Frum, you are seeing people who at one time found themselves in positions of power and influence, and now can’t accept the fact that their beliefs and policies are losers and a new group of leaders outside their influence and control has sprung up - Limbaugh, Palin, Jindal.

That’s why they hate them and are doing everything they can to get back in control. They are not Republicans, they are not conservatives. They are opportunists who care only about themselves.


30 posted on 03/02/2009 3:47:11 PM PST by oldbill
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To: SolidWood

Anyone involved in promoting guns-and-butter “compassionate conservatism” is essentially discredited in my mind. David Frum is part of that crew, along with Michael Gerson, Bill Kristol, & others.


31 posted on 03/02/2009 3:57:20 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: SolidWood

Obama is the angriest responsibility off-loader and detroner to the tune of trillions.

Frum needs a reality check.


32 posted on 03/02/2009 4:33:25 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: oldbill
This is exactly the problem with half of the people who were running McCain's campaign. Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt apparently hated Palin and were more interested in keeping their cocktail circuit, dog walking friends than letting her get any power. Even if that meant losing.
33 posted on 03/02/2009 5:22:06 PM PST by redk
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To: SolidWood

The weak whine about the more.

I look for the more, because there is the worthy foil.


34 posted on 03/02/2009 5:23:24 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: SolidWood

The posters at New Majority are no different than DU. Take a look at one comment from a so-called moderate.

HollywoodBill wrote:

Reagan as a culture warrior in his day? Please. Maybe in some parallel universe, but not here. Reagan had no use for the religious whack jobs who were oozing into the Republican Party except for giving them a seat at the table so to speak. And that turned out to be a huge mistake. Reagan signed the most liberal abortion law in the nation BEFORE Roe v Wade. While he claimed it was mistake he never did anything to repeal it. And even in an age of some technology, Reagan would only send a tape,audio no less to their annual snake handling convention. Reagan was probably the largest force in defeating Prop22, the Briggs Initiative which would have fired anyy teachers within CA in 1978, He wrote an editorial in LA that is credited with the largest turnaround in recent history of any initiative. He took the social conservatives on because it was the right thing to do. And he would need their support for the Presidency the next year. But he wouldn’t buckle to the Bible Thumpers.


35 posted on 03/02/2009 5:29:50 PM PST by yongin
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To: libbylu

Yes, Frum was one of the “wizards of smart” that Rush was targeting in his CPAC speech. What does Frum do, he responds exactly as Rush predicted he would. Frum is one of those who meet with Obama and the MSM crows that the ONE is meeting with “Conservative Leaders.” He is no more than a useful idiot unwittingly doing the bidding of the left.


37 posted on 03/02/2009 5:45:28 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: libbylu
“If McCain hadn’t been the nominee the GOP would have had a better shot.”

That is not what the reality was though. McCain would not have been nearly as bad as O has been / will be. To seal his takeover all O and the dems need is 2 more plants on SCOTUS.

Looks like he is going to get one with Ruth's demise in a few months.

Just read my tag line!

38 posted on 03/02/2009 6:18:47 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: oldbill
In people like Frum, you are seeing people who were in positions of power and influence, and now can’t accept that their beliefs and policies are losers and a new group of leaders outside their influence and control has sprung up.....That’s why they hate them and are doing everything they can to get back in control. They are not Republicans, they are not conservatives. They are opportunists who care only about themselves.

N-i-c-e take. BTW---there's a reward out for anyone who can determine Frum's means of support.

Now right here, we have the pukeneo who declared, "conservatism is dead." (I think this little puke jerk also believes in the Tooth Fairy).

Pukeneo Kristol segued from Moynihan to Quayle's staff, from The Weekly Standard to the NYT, from Bush to Giuliani to McCain. And he’s still secretive as ever....smirking and spewing blue-blood beltway Republicanism, and kicking conservatives to the curb......all without any "visible means" of support (snicker).

Next week Kristol’ll be blowing whichever way the Beltway Winds are blowing.....on his knees, sucking up to Obama. Obama's sex life is really going to improve---once the pukeneos start kneeling under the Oval office desk.

AND NOW.......The winner of the 2008 Best Election Night Performance Award in the category of:
"I Know Nothing About this Republican Disaster."


Little Bill Kristol (McC's campaign mastermind)

"Thank you very much. But I could not have done it without the help of all the
punkeos--David Frum, Michael Gerson, David Brooks, Richard Perle.....and
my Dearest Daddy."

"Sniffle---my Dearest Daddy (who was Giuliani's foreign policy advisor) said,
"The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism is.....to convert the
Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their
respective wills,
into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to
governing a modern democracy."

"Sob."

"I especially want to thank punkneo Douglas Feith for faking documents on his
home computer so we punkneos could dupe the president, and the American taxpayers we despise."

"Without Doug we would not have been able to transfer trillions of US dollars
into the Mideast, into the pockets of war profiteers, which enabled Richard Perle
to startup an oil business in Iraq with his cut."

Kristol smirked: "Making Iraq safe for Perle's oil business with US tax dollars was truly a noble punkneo effort."

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COMMENTS The 2008 political entrail readings showed the crucial conservative base stayed home. Too bad the pukes "forget" to tell McC that would be one outcome of the lamebrain punkneo crafted/RINO bi-partisanship thingy.

AS FREEPER TADSLOS COGENTLY POSTED: "People forget that candy-ass Kristol, and his crony, metro-sexual Brooks are the original makeover artists for McCain post-2000. They are McC's original groomers and media switch operators.....obsessed with religious cleansing of the party. Kristol at his most smirkiest---urging McCain to fire his 2008 staff, to start all over at the 11th hour, as McC's numbers tanked. Shows how how ill-conceived, advised, equipped and poorly managed McC's campaign was. But then, what else to expect from a Republican candidate made up of neopunks Kristol and Brooks."

Kristol championed McCain early in the election cycle to push his boy to the nomination. Kristol "support" for Palin had nothing to do with conservatism and everything to do with gauging the political winds to get his maverick liberal senator elected president. Kristol is the media poster boy for why D.C. plutocrats are completely out of touch with the rest of the country.

Watching Kristol smirking and squirming in his Fox seat on election night as McC lost his bid for the presidency was a consolation prize to this abortion of a 2008 election cycle.

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NOTE WELL Be aware that many senior neocons are rank opportunists who smirked and squatted in the Repub Party with sub rosa agendas and no "visible means" of support. The pukeneos are actually former Trotskyites that flew the coop when Stalin executed their hero.

39 posted on 03/03/2009 2:50:22 AM PST by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism).)
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To: Col Freeper

Did Frum forget that Obama is an admitted past recreational drug user?


40 posted on 03/03/2009 11:32:28 AM PST by Cecily
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