Posted on 03/03/2009 12:54:37 AM PST by JLS
Teen talks about jail-cell beating Auto-theft charge awaits
By SCOTT GUTIERREZ P-I REPORTER
The 15-year-old girl might have been sassing the officer, and the sneaker she kicked off could have hit his shin. She might have, as accused, even stolen a car.
Yet, scores of people around the world who have watched on the Internet and television a veteran King County Sheriff's deputy beating the girl last fall say they don't care. The outrage has become as viral as the holding-cell video clearly displaying the act.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...
Wailing on a 15 year old girl and pulling her hair is not spanking.
How did you know a 15 year old girl is not pregnant?
Wasn't the deputy disregarding the possibility that a beating could endanger an unborn child?
Here we go....”The children”
You nailed it. She was asking to get her ass whipped and the officer obliged. Guilty.
That ‘officer’ is a seriously maladjusted individual. He needs psychiatric help and likely many years of counseling.
He also needs a job where he never interacts directly with the public in any way....perhaps a year or two manufacturing license plates would be a suitable career choice.
Brunner and Schene's reports both said the shoe struck Schene in the right shin, causing "bruising, bleeding and pain."
The officers should be prosecuting for filing a false report too.
How's the taste of police boots?
AFAIK, a doctor would not prescribe her a medicine known to be dangerous to a fetus, without first ruling out a pregnancy. I would think a beating like we saw would also be dangerous to a fetus.
Do you agree or disagree?
Deputy Paul Schene has been charged with assault and is facing a year in jail under the Washington criminal code. Were you not aware?
This girl and her family will likely move to a nice neighborhood in Redmont, courtesy of these two officers and King County.
What I'd really be worried about, if I were in their shoes, is fedgov. I've snipped out the parts that wouldn't apply to this case:
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 242
§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States ...[snipped]... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;
and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section... [snipped] ...shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
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TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 1 > § 4
§ 4. Misprision of felony
Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
So no one is entitled to defend them self from a female from the age of 9 to 55 due to the fact that they may be pregnant? I believe it is the responsibility of of the person that initiates the action to consider the out come of their actions. Something that was sorely missing in this case.
By your question I would take it you will never think of taking any action against a female in the above age group unless you have viewed the results of a pregnancy test.
Please, don't ever become a cop or, maybe a parent either. If you think that she deserved a beating base on your surmise from a video that she never got spanked then you are incapable of handling children. Or, even understanding them.
Clarification: their refers to Schene and the second deputy, Travis Brunner, who failed to report the incident.
Your take is wrong, and you did not answer my question.
Anyway, let's say the deputy fails to remove his gun, and as he places the girl in the cell she grabs a hold of it. IMO, he would have been justified in his actions to get the gun away, even if she were visibly pregnant.
Now, suppose she were visibly pregnant in that tape. Would you still justify his actions... YES or NO?
If you have ever raised a teenager you would realize your response is overly simplistic.
It's obvious that this girls behaviour is immature, which is normal. Every fifteen year old goes through that unless she has been brutalized by her dad to the point that she is scared to death.
It's also obvious that this cop is way too unstable to be in his line of work.
As a former corrections officer, I know the crap they have to deal with and this guy should have charges filed against him.
No, but then I’m not in the habit of interacting with delinquents and choose to treat others as I myself wish to be treated. If one wishes to push the issue then yes I will take what actions I feel are required. For your info I’m more important than she and a possible child are worth if it comes to that.
If she was visibly pregnant no. Then again as I said in my first post I don’t think this guy is suited for his present employment based on his past record he just seems to have a short fuse. The take down was warranted the 2 punches were not but then again I never saw the kicks she says she received.
A little bit of sane perspective on the issue. I know that they teach cops some really effective, non-violent submission techniques that are hard to get out of. Either the officer wasn't trained, or as you say he just lost it. If untrained, he shouldn't bear as much of the brunt as if he just lost it.
This is not the first time ....
Schene fatally shot a mentally ill man in 2006 after a traffic stop struggle... It was the second shooting of his career, ... ruled as justified.
While on paid leave...stopped for drunken driving.
He registered a .04 percent
...had been drinking and taking prescription medications.
He was suspended for two days ...
They need to fire and charge this guy for assault and falsification of records. And they need to reopen their investigation of the other incidents. A liar is a liar.
They should also fire the rookie.
If this was a self defense situation, why not? Or are you saying this was NOT a self defense situation?
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