Posted on 03/05/2009 5:24:15 AM PST by RobinMasters
Perhaps you’ve seen the video of the King County, Wash., sheriff’s deputy dishing out a bit of the rough stuff on a 15-year-old girl. At 3:45 a.m. last November 29, the girl was arrested while riding as a passenger in her parents’ car, which had been reported stolen to police. The video shows Deputy Paul Schene, 31, and a second deputy escorting the girl into a holding cell. The girl, apparently at Schene’s request, takes off one of her shoes and, apparently not at Schene’s request, kicks it at him, striking him in the shin with it.
It seems fair to say that at that point Deputy Schene … lost it. The video shows him charging into the cell and striking the girl, then shoving her against the back wall before throwing her to the floor. After handcuffing her, he picks her up and takes her out of the cell while holding her by the hair. A detective who later reviewed the video reported the incident, and Schene was charged in King County District Court with misdemeanor assault. He has pleaded not guilty.
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RE: “Yes, the girl probably got a few bruises and maybe even a bloody nose. Unfortunately, it will probably not be a teaching moment.”
Your defense of violence sickens me. Did your dad ‘teach’ you a lot ?
And you are proposing jail time for a misdemeanor?
And regarding the prosecution for the DUI. The incident was procecuted, though not to your satisfaction apparently. Under the current laws, past convictions for unrelated crimes cannot be used in prosecuting a case, only in sentencing. But since you can obviously pass judgment from viewing 30 seconds of a video (not knowing what was said or what preceded the video or the extent of the injuries), it's easy to see how easily you are able to suspend the rules of law and pass judgment before a perponderance of ALL the evidence.
And as much as you probably won't like this fact, there are special rules for “cops”, not just the bad ones, but the good ones too. They have a special job which requires special rules. But those should be suspended as well - all on the emotion of a 30 second video.
So the next time you encounter an officer of the law, please rather than thanking him for putting his life on the line every single day he reports, please walk up to him and remind them that they should expect to “handle the verbal abuse, or insults and all the other crap” that you've decided should be the normal course of their job. He or she will certainly exhibit more restraint that they should respectfully have to endure from your type.
Yes, he taught me great things. Thank you for asking. :)
I never said anything like that .I've seen videos of people getting tazed and beaten and I've cheered the officer ,when it's appropriate.
When you've been in the position of being spit on and called every name in the book (and some that aren't allowed to be in the book), then please voice your opinion.
OK I will I've never been an officer but I have worked with the public and anyone who has worked with the public will eventually run into an A$$hole like this girl and guess what ? As much as I would have liked to I never beat the crap out of a customer. It's part of being an adult ...Call it self control ...everyone should try it.
What this officer did is completely inappropriate and I'm not going to give him a pass
She assaulted the corrections officer. He is unarmed and needed to subdue the perp. I bet she won’t try and assault any other officer again. Nothing here... move on.
Do you enjoy ‘teaching’ 15 year old girls with your fists ? It looks pretty easy (if you’re a violent and impulsive coward).
RE: “She assaulted the corrections officer. He is unarmed and needed to subdue the perp. I bet she won’t try and assault any other officer again. Nothing here... move on.”
Anyone that can watch the vid and come to that conclusion is out of their mind.
As some here, evidently, are.
Some on FR will defend a LEO no matter what. The most egregious violations of civil liberties and common decency are applauded if committed by a LEO.
Any adult male who beats up a 15 year-old girl is the lowest form a cowardly vomitous scum. Badge or not.
I hope he gets put into a cell with some big, angry, smelly gansta' he helped put away.
Legally, that’s what she did. The center may have a “zero tolerence” policy for inmates attacking officers. Who knows? I bet she won’t do it again.
RE: “Legally, that’s what she did”
Amazing. (facepalm)
We’ll see how well that sells in court.
There are two cliches that come to mind, one accurate the other complete wisdom...
“Sticks & stones...” Untrue. Words can injure for a lifetime. Sometimes more brutal than many forms of physical violence.
“Consider the source.” And I shall apply that wisdom here. :)
Sorry... I don’t make the rules.
Just takin’ care of their own.
Under normal circumstances I would agree, but this girl had been frisked, and she was much smaller than him. She wouldn’t be a legitimate threat even if she had a non-bullet weapon. Does this cop lack that much confidence?
And then he twice slammed his fist into the back of her head just to be on the safe side.
We've got people here convicting the officer of a felony (which it was not) knowing only what's on a silent video. Lord, I pray none of these people are ever on a jury ready to convict based on 30 second, non-contextual b&w video.
The officer forcibly restrained her. No one here has established the extent of the injuries or what transpired before or after the video, or the “rules of engagement” for the facility. The officer's response was over in less than 5 seconds. That hardly qualifies as a felonious or premeditated assault. Police officers make thousands of split second decisions a year.
I have no doubt that you “work with the public” and that you will “eventually run into an A$$hol”. But with all due respect, if you had 5-10 “A$$hol” incidents every shift that you work, 5 days a week, 365 1/4 days a year? Well, I think that officers have an impossible standard to uphold.
Had this officer broken bones, drawn blood, caused a concussion or pulled out a stick or gun to beat the girl mercilessly, then we would have a different conversation. Like you said with the taser, the issue is where we draw the line. The way I see it, the officer responded aggressively, but I cannot see anything that caused sustained or great bodily harm.
You saw that? Amazing. Guess you’ve never seen different things from different angles in an NFL replay. You ***think*** you saw a fist to the back of the head. It’s a grainy, b&w video.
What were the injuries sustained? Jumping to conclusions people. Ahhhhh... convicting without all the evidence. Nice.
We will never know since the paramedics took it upon themselves to decide the injuries were not sufficient to seek medical attention. I know a fist slam when I see one.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I’m convinced of everything that I observe in Al Gore & Michael Moore’s videos too. ;)
The Sheriff's Office is reviewing Schene's report and the report of the second deputy, Travis Brunner, as part of the internal investigation that could result in discipline, a spokesman said Monday.
Brunner and Schene's reports both said the shoe struck Schene in the right shin, causing "bruising, bleeding and pain."
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/402005_schene03.html
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