Diabetes Blogger Experiences Joy Over O's Embryo Destruction Spending

DiabetesMine ^ | 03/09/2009 | Amy Tenderich

[Ole Okie]

Diana DeGette has a daughter with diabetes. I think she really believes a cure will come out of this.

One of my daughters came down with juvenile onset diabetes at age 13. That was 35 years ago. I pray that some miracle would produce a cure for this scourge which, like polio before Salk and Sabin, preys on innocent children.

I look for nothing to come of this hysteria. Those who are desperate tend to think that if only, if only, if only, they will rise from their sickbeds. Thus far there is nothing on the fetal stem cell horizon that will promises such a miracle.

[swain_forkbeard]

Nope, not offended.

[chris_bdba]

As a person with type 1 for nearly 40 years I too am sad about this. The JDRF have filled so many heads with empty hope that I have never given a dime to them. What a sad day this is.

[taxcontrol]

While there is little or NO progress with using embryonic stem cells for the treatment of diabetes, ADULT stem cells show promise:

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/08.16/01-stemcells.html

[kruss3]

T1 can be prevented in 80% cases just by dosing infants with 2000 IU’s of vitamin d3 during the first year. A +20 year from Finland confirms this finding. Some variant of this treatment will probably prevent the remaining 20%.
I would like to advise some T1 diabetics of the possibilty
of restoring pancreatic insulin function in long term T1 diabetic adults. It may be possible.

[kruss3]

T1 can be prevented in 80% cases just by dosing infants with 2000 IU’s of vitamin d3 during the first year. A +20 year from Finland confirms this finding. Some variant of this treatment will probably prevent the remaining 20%.
I would like to advise some T1 diabetics of the possibilty
of restoring pancreatic insulin function in long term T1 diabetic adults. It may be possible.

[crymeariver]

Isnt vitamin D3 niacin?

[Cicero]

Fetal stem cells have accomplished nothing, so far. But even if they had, and I were dying of a disease they would cure, I would refuse to be cured at the cost of an innocent life.

Sorry, it just is NOT RIGHT.

It makes me think of Goya's terrible black painting of Saturn devouring his son.

[george3547]

I wonder if 2 bible verses could apply to this embryonic research. They are Matthew 9:16 and 17. One is in reference to patching an old garment with new cloth, and the other is putting new wine in old wineskins.

Vs.16 says that if you sew a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment, the patch will pull away from the garment, making the tear worse. (NIV) Likewise, men do not put new wine into old wineskins, if they do, the skins will burst and the wine will run out. They put new wine into new wineskins and both are preserved. (NIV Jesus speaking).

Embryonic stem cells grow at a much faster rate that an adult body. This is what causes tumors to form in the adult body. So far the best results have been achieved by using adult stem cells from the person’s own body (no rejection factor to deal with). That is why private research money is going to adult stem cell research, not embryonic.

Just curious.

[piytar]

Yup, and now federal funds will be diverted from politically boring adult stem cell research to politically useful (for pro-abortion libs) embryonic stem cell research. Anyone who thinks that this is a good thin for finding cures for diseases is an IDIOT.

[PatriotGirl827]

I am absolutely sick over this subject tonight. My 24-year old daughter, who is going to school to become a physician’s assistant, was absolutely jubilant tonight over the stem cell news.

I tried to tell her that nothing could justify destroying babies, and she said “it has nothing to do with killing babies, and everything to do with helping hundreds of thousands of sick people”.

She said they will not be allowed to create embryos just for the research, but that they can use embryos that are not “viable”. I don’t understand her argument and I was getting very upset, so I did not continue with her.

Can someone help me refute that argument? I feel like a failure and a coward because I do not like to argue - with anybody - and it breaks my heart that my daughter thinks this is ok. I guess that’s one of the things they taught her in pre-med (which I paid for).

[beandog]

I hope you’re not paying for her current schooling.

[Secret Agent Man]

There will never be a cure for diabetes from embryo stem cell research.

It will only come from adult stem cell research, using the person’s own cells to be generated into working pancreatic cells. they will not be rejected by the person’s immune system like embryonic stem cells will and are.

[PatriotGirl827]

no - she is supposed to start in June and has applied for financial aid, student loans, etc. I told her a long time ago that we could not pay beyond a bachelor’s degree for any of them.

[armymarinemom]

It sounds like your daughter believes that an embryo is not human. This legislature is why so many people had a problem with IVF. A lot of us in the medical profession referred to frozen IVF embryos as frosty tots The name tots very much implied that we thought of them as people. When a family loses a child during pregnancy they do not think of the baby as a lump of flesh. Parents mourn the loss of a baby, their child, someone they would die for. It's a baby no matter what stage of life it is at the moment.

[taildragger]

Scientists love it because now they don’t have to do the hard work to lobby for private funds but can now petition the gov for $ which it will easily dole out along with extra money for support. It’s jut more pork.

Bingo....

The question is, when the Gov't gives the grant does the College still take it's percentage off the top?

The reason I say this is I got into a discussion with a reseacher I know from the U of M. Their complaint was Bush was taking all the money for the wars and when I asked about the higher percentage of the budget going to SSI, M & M I got a blank stare, but I digress...

U of M takes 24% off the top, so if you want 100 grand to go to research you better donate 124 large.... And what are they paying the professional canvasser's to go after the Alumni "Whales" for the large donations? Harvard has them I know that for a fact. So what schools will be doing this and do they have answers to my questions....

[piytar]

Good ponits. (Just a nit, but your math is off. If you want $100 large, you need to ask for about $132 large to have $100 left after they take their 24% cut.)