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Dr. Ron Paul says legalize marijuana on Larry King Live March 13, 2009
CNN/Youtube ^ | 03/13/09 | CNN/Youtube

Posted on 03/14/2009 2:20:58 PM PDT by Painesright

Video of Ron Paul debating Stephen Baldwin about the legalization of marijuana on Larry King Live March 13, 2009.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cnn; hottoungue; liberaltarian; likewowman; potheads; ronpaul; shrimpmunchies; statists; stephenbaldwin; stoppostingwackjobs; tyrannywatch; wod
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To: Star Traveler

I agree that just like with alcohol, there are those who should entirely stay away from the substance due to its effect on them. The problem I see with the current laws is that marijuana shows up on screening for a month or more after use. There is no way that someone is still being altered by a substance that was ingested days, or weeks ago. Many who would otherwise be available for employment are rendered ineligible. Agreed, a change in habits removes this boundary but reality is what it is.


101 posted on 03/14/2009 4:30:18 PM PDT by RS_Rider
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To: Responsibility2nd
even in spite of the moral problems it poses

LOL what moral problems? Dancing? Wild Sex? Unprotected Wild Sex? No Sex? Sin? Mental Derangement? The Munchies? Bad Skin?

102 posted on 03/14/2009 4:32:09 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: RS_Rider

Well, I think they should keep the screening the way it is. If someone is going to do that, then they might as well mow yards for a living... LOL...

[ I don’t think they’ll ever get out to mow the grass even... :-) ... ]


103 posted on 03/14/2009 4:33:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: BlackElk

LoL! That’s gonna rile up a few Quakers... eer Paulians that lurk here.


104 posted on 03/14/2009 4:35:30 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Painesright

Link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufekh_SwZd0


105 posted on 03/14/2009 4:38:15 PM PDT by Painesright
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To: Responsibility2nd
He talks a good game on abortion but he does not want the federales to DO anything about it even though the problem is 35+ years of SCOTUS national tyranny on the subject which, other than in his hallucinatios, would certainly continue if we followed him and his "strategy."

What would happen would be that a state, pursuant to the Tenth Amendment, would outlaw abortion and Paulie thinks that will do it. Of course, when we leave his alternative universe, any such attempt will be promptly crushed by federal courts claiming Roe vs. Wade and iots progeny as "authority." If you think it is impossible to get Hussein's Birth Certificate even though there are requirements to serve as POTUS, wait until the paleoPaulie delusion as to state's rights is attempted. Oh, wait, that was already tried by Texas in a case called Roe vs. Wade, as Paulie well knows. Unfortunately, federal judges pretend an inability to read or comprehend the constitution whenever they want to cram their priorities down our throats. The babies are being sliced, diced and hamburgerized to the tune of more than a million a year while Ron Paul wants only to be able to say he is a pro-lifer and that federal court decisions are not his fault and pose for holy pictures at press conferences.

You gotta learn the paleoPaulie bait and switch technique.

106 posted on 03/14/2009 4:38:45 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: RS_Rider
"The problem I see with the current laws is that marijuana shows up on screening for a month or more after use."

That is a problem for pot abusers. Not for the occasional tokers however. 7-10 days after indulging.

I don't see the difference between someone who gets drunk every day and someone who gets stoned every day.

Even after the effects have worn off, it still effects you physically and mentally.

107 posted on 03/14/2009 4:40:24 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ninonitti
"LOL what moral problems? Dancing? Wild Sex? Unprotected Wild Sex? No Sex? Sin? Mental Derangement? The Munchies? Bad Skin?"

Pot smokers don't have sex- ever, except for masturbating occasionally. Ask any woman who has spent some time with a pothead how 'energetic' of a lover a pot head is.

108 posted on 03/14/2009 4:42:17 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Can you imagine a world if Liberaltarians get their wish.

And your company would be sued for discrimination if they refused to hire a pot smoker?

What would your insurance costs be like if companies were FORCED to insure pot users?

Assuming that they make the 90 day probation.

And if you fired a user for being unproductive or missing work? Why - you would be sued under the ADA laws.


109 posted on 03/14/2009 4:46:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: ninonitti
"LOL what moral problems? Dancing? Wild Sex? Unprotected Wild Sex? No Sex? Sin? Mental Derangement? The Munchies? Bad Skin?"

As for the bad skin, yes, thats because they are too lazy to wash, take a bath. They get pot bellies from eating too much while laying sideways on the couch.

Dancing? HAHAHAHAHAHA! to what, Hang on sloopy?

Potheads are usually loners, "between girlfriends" from 1969 to present, and have few friends except other potheads.

If they are fortunate enough to have a house, (usually it was left to them when their parent died) the grass is a foot long and it needs painting badly.

110 posted on 03/14/2009 4:47:28 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

You said — “Pot smokers don’t have sex- ever, except for masturbating occasionally. Ask any woman who has spent some time with a pothead how ‘energetic’ of a lover a pot head is.”

Kinda good news, actually — less chance on perpetuating the “pot gene”... LOL...


111 posted on 03/14/2009 4:47:40 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Nathan Zachary
Pot smokers don't have sex- ever, except for masturbating occasionally.

Wow. You sure know a lot about pot smokers.
112 posted on 03/14/2009 4:52:30 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Responsibility2nd

“He’s right on issues of abortion.

But that’s it.”

So he’s wrong about free markets? . . . or is that just more hyperbole.


113 posted on 03/14/2009 4:58:11 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: microgood

I know a few old potheads from high school.

Sad, sad waste of life really. It’s a slowly progressing life of laziness. They reach their peak of activity around age 20. It’s all downhill from there. Oh they may start out with a good job, but each time they get laid off, the next job isn’t as good, then the next one after that... on and on till they are night watchmen somewhere.


114 posted on 03/14/2009 4:59:18 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Star Traveler
"I guess we could perpetually take care of those people who are continuously in that condition (and it does breed the “continuous effect” — that’s the “overdose condition, in that it “never stops”... LOL...)." that's just retarded. You are using such outdated stereotypes, based on what you've seen in the movies. Are there people who live off the government and sit on couches all day? Sure...but most of them aren't stoners. Why do you care what they do with their time if it doesn't effect you? I've personally never been that interested in weed, or any other drug...but there are plenty of people who hold all types of sucessful jobs, who like to come home and kick back in the evening. And it doesn't effect you at all.
115 posted on 03/14/2009 4:59:52 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: microgood

They all seem to have the shakes really bad too. what’s up with that?


116 posted on 03/14/2009 5:01:36 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Katya
"..but there are plenty of people who hold all types of sucessful jobs, who like to come home and kick back in the evening. And it doesn't effect you at all. "

Until they turn 25 or so...

117 posted on 03/14/2009 5:02:59 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Katya

You said — “that’s just retarded. You are using such outdated stereotypes, based on what you’ve seen in the movies. Are there people who live off the government and sit on couches all day? Sure...but most of them aren’t stoners. Why do you care what they do with their time if it doesn’t effect you? I’ve personally never been that interested in weed, or any other drug...but there are plenty of people who hold all types of sucessful jobs, who like to come home and kick back in the evening. And it doesn’t effect you at all.”

Nope, I’m not using outdate stereotypes, I’m using “first-hand observation” to tell you this. This is what I’ve seen directly, in front of my face, with a bunch of potheads that I’ve come across...

And in terms of what do I care when it doesn’t affect me. Unfortunately, in my experience, it has affected me...

And it’s an experience that no one ever wants to have it affect them like that (and I’m talking about the ones who are not smoking now, how it affects them...). It’s the *worst* kind of thing you can imagine...

There isn’t a single person I can think of that can have *any value* at all, in it...


118 posted on 03/14/2009 5:04:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Worth noting in the assessment of ideology.


119 posted on 03/14/2009 5:04:30 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That’s utter nonsense and is antithetical to libertarian ideals.

In a libertarian world, your company would be allowed to test and reject anyone for employment for reasons of drug use.

Stop with the straw man arguments, already. They make your case look pathetic. Come to think of it, it is.


120 posted on 03/14/2009 5:05:43 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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