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Something Wicked This Way Comes
American Thinker ^ | March 15, 2009 | J.C. Smith

Posted on 03/14/2009 11:00:12 PM PDT by neverdem

The darkest times in human history have all begun when someone decided "not to let a serious crisis go to waste". In fact, it is in times of economic crisis that folks are most susceptible to the ideas of tyrants. We look for an answer, any port in a storm that will shield us from the unknown. And in our desire to be safe, we open ourselves up to things that we would never have dreamed of allowing in normal times.

Consider, my friends that Germany in the 1930's was suffering from massive unemployment and high inflation, mostly due to the effects of the Great Depression. Hitler appointed Hjalmar Schacht as Minister of Economics to combat this and bring Germany into fresh prosperity. Schacht leaned on Keynesian Economics to this end, specifically in the areas of large public works programs supported by deficit spending. For those that don't know, deficit spending is when the Government purposefully spends more money than they receive through tax revenues. The theory is that by spending into deficit, the government creates jobs which increases consumer spending. This in turn, creates more business by supplying for the new spending being done.


The natural reaction that rational people have to deficit spending is to talk about the "burden of the national debt". The idea of course is that if we create debt now, future generation s will have to pay that debt off and we therefore are saddling them with a burden that is unfair. Interestingly, this reaction has been in place since the 1930's when Keynes first introduced his theory.  Now, is it any wonder that the current administration has been untouched by the Right's cries regarding the burden of the national debt? To them it is the expected and naïve cry of the bourgeoisie used to scare the ignorant proletariat.. To the Keynesians, the debt-income ratio would disappear over time anyway, provided the economy grew fast enough.

Forgive my descent into macroeconomic theory, friends, I do have a point here. However, I want you folks to understand what is happening all around you right as we speak. Obama's administration has embraced Keynesian economic theory. That is the reason for the massive spending bill, the Omnibus bill and the bailouts. They believe that by combating the current recession with massive governmental public works and deficit spending, they can end the economic crisis. Hjalmar Schacht and Adolf Hitler believed the exact same thing and Schacht applied the theory to Germany's Depression economy. After jolting the economy with massive deficit spending, the next step was to implement the Reinhardt Program, combining tax reductions with public investment in roads, railways and waterways. Now while it cannot be argued that both practices worked in getting Germany well on the road to recovery, it also is evident that it was the death of the free market in Germany and the perfect springboard for Hitler's rise to dictatorship.

In the Germany of the 1930's, the economic troubles served as a serious crisis in which the National Socialist Party could push through major reforms. When your job, your home, your livelihood seems to be in peril, people look for a voice, any voice, that seems to have the answer for their day-to-day problems. The more charismatic that leader is, the quicker his ascent to power during a crisis. Not only that, the more charismatic the leader is, the further people will allow themselves to be led down a path that they would normally rebel against.

Hence, the Keynesian theories that Hitler introduced to a desperate population not only served to  jolt Germany's economy into recovery, it also served to make the Germans dependent on the government for their welfare and by extension then, on Hitler himself. He became their savior when in fact, he was their greatest doom.

There is no better time to introduce seismic shifts in a nation's identity than during an economic crisis, if you are the right kind of despot. In the years before the French Revolution, Necker borrowed and Calonne spent to combat the crisis caused by France's financing of the American Revolution. This led to a deepening of the crisis and eventual overthrow of the government. In 1917 in Tsarist Russia, the Bolsheviks used the economic crisis to overthrow the government and Lenin rose to power amidst the flames. Over and over throughout history we see the same pattern playing itself out; in the midst of crisis, the crazies take over the nuthouse.

We stand on a treacherous precipice here in America today. Had you been able to ask a German prior to Hitler's rise to power if Germany was capable of the Final Solution, do you think that they would have laughed you to scorn? Do we see that it was not a monstrous sub-class of people who carried out the orders of the Reich but rather normal people who were living their normal lives and were carried away into madness in degrees by a man who understood that times of crisis were perfect opportunities for major reform? The story of the Russian Revolution carries with it the exact same lessons that we fail to see. It was economic crisis that lent itself to the ascent of the Communist party and to the deaths of multiplied millions of Russians at the hands of that regime.

When good people relinquish the power of the free market, the power that rests in the hands of the individual, and look to a charismatic figure for help, disaster is right around the corner. It is nothing new that is happening in the world today, my friends. It is the same thing that has been happening since the dawn of time; it takes a crisis to enthrone a monster and I fear that something wicked this way comes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bolsheviks; crisis; economics; fascism; freemarket; hitler; keynes; keynesianeconomics; obama; oligarchy; socialism; tyranny

1 posted on 03/14/2009 11:00:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Thank you for posting this.

We are SO vulnerable for Something Wicked This Way Comes.

And the Wicked is knocking on our door.


2 posted on 03/14/2009 11:05:02 PM PDT by unkus
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To: neverdem

Thanks, good read.


3 posted on 03/14/2009 11:06:53 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: neverdem

No wonder Rahm says don’t let a a crisis go to waste. It’s just ripe for takeover by the wrong people such as himself.


4 posted on 03/14/2009 11:13:19 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: neverdem

self ping


5 posted on 03/14/2009 11:15:54 PM PDT by genetic homophobe ("I readily concede I chucked aside my free-market principles..." defend that)
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To: unkus

He isb not just knocking, he is already in charge. Zero isn’t an idiot. He knows these lessons of history well. He just intends to be that charismatic leader who takes over (see tagline). Fortunately, his arrogance guarantees he won’t. Unfortunately, zero is setting the stage for the next monster.

In other words, zero is Lennin. The question is will American wake up in time, or will we get a Stalin?


6 posted on 03/14/2009 11:31:29 PM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: neverdem

bump


7 posted on 03/14/2009 11:34:44 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: piytar

Yes, we are in the Crisis stage and the next stage is Normilization.

I had talks with the KGB defector Yuri Besmeanov in 1983.

It’s here!

Now the battle begins.

America has a strong Spirit and it won’t go down without a fight!


8 posted on 03/14/2009 11:42:11 PM PDT by unkus
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To: freekitty

Communists follow their plan.


9 posted on 03/14/2009 11:42:58 PM PDT by unkus
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To: neverdem

BTTT


10 posted on 03/15/2009 12:40:58 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: neverdem

11 posted on 03/15/2009 12:52:16 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: neverdem

I do NOT understand why people can’t see this.

I read an article just a while ago where the author was snickering at the “right wing” because they think that BO is a socialist. There can’t be THAT many ignorant people out there! Can there?

This is more evidence that on 11-04-08 we entered the twilight zone.


12 posted on 03/15/2009 1:01:17 AM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: neverdem
It is ironic that the Angel of Darkness, the anti Christ, is indeed the Dark One. It is most interesting that to describe this phenomenon for what it is, one must overcome the false accusation of racism.
13 posted on 03/15/2009 1:08:55 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: neverdem
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true...


14 posted on 03/15/2009 1:23:20 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Glittering prizes, and endless compomises, shatter the illusion of integrity. Yeah!)
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To: neverdem

You’re all going to suffer the consequences for criticizing President Imanuel and Vice President Soros.

Absolutely disgusting!

/s/

IMHO


15 posted on 03/15/2009 4:13:38 AM PDT by ripley
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To: rawcatslyentist

Imagine where we’d be if we only had the MSM, especially now that it’s run out of the White House. 0bama isn’t all that charsimatic. At this point, a lot of the previously befuddled are losing the battle trying to keep convinced that he’s The One. No thanks to the MSM, but thanks to everyone on these sites.


16 posted on 03/15/2009 4:15:27 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: unkus

...and be coming thru a digital TV conversion box already in your home by June 12th...


17 posted on 03/15/2009 4:40:39 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

Tell me more.


18 posted on 03/15/2009 4:56:38 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: FrogMom

Fifty years of public school indoctrination has prepared the way for these Marxists! There is no doubt that the enemy is in the gates and we are in a war to the death!


19 posted on 03/15/2009 4:57:48 AM PDT by timetostand
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To: neverdem
The author was unable to see the difference here.

Hitler reduced taxes plus, increased large infrastructure projects. On top of that, Hitler began building his Military machines, which employed most everyone in Germany, as well as he took all the young Men and many young Women and placed them in his Military.

Obama has done something similar, with his Civilian Service Corps, but the biggest difference is, his Civilian Force will not produce anything. It will be nothing more that a drain on the Treasury. He will have to increase all Taxes by at least 100% to pay for his massive Government, non-productive plan.

This will completely defeat the very thing that let Hitler achieve God like status with the German people. Next will come runaway Inflation and later Stagflation. Any temporary economic gains made from his current scam, will quickly dry up after the bill comes due. Don't forget, he biggest difference between ‘30’s Germany and now, is ALL of Obama’s money is being borrowed to fund this Marxist scam.

It simply won't work. I cannot work. It goes against all economic laws which will soon enforce themselves, regardless of how Obama tries to defy them or rewrite them.

20 posted on 03/15/2009 5:23:19 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: unkus
I have watched Bezmanov’s interview. You are right, the next thing we will hear is, ‘the situation in brotherly Amerika is now normalized’.
21 posted on 03/15/2009 6:37:11 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: FrogMom
There can’t be THAT many ignorant people out there! Can there?

Don't be surprised. Hollywood, the media, and professors have been indoctrinating people for a long time now.

22 posted on 03/15/2009 6:42:09 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: freema

Yer kidding right???

Do you have cable or satellite???

If you do then yer ok...

If not then you got to go buy a “box” to get TV...

If you cannot afford to buy a $40 “box”, then somebody (us) will pay for it, for you...

basically...


23 posted on 03/15/2009 6:46:05 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: neverdem
Consider, my friends that Germany in the 1930's was suffering from massive unemployment and high inflation, mostly due to the effects of the Great Depression.

Really? Not mostly due to decades of sloppy thinking by their intellectual leaders, their philosophers, their militarists...and how about WWI and the hyperinflation of the Weimar years?

24 posted on 03/15/2009 6:50:26 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: neverdem
The voice in my head says to tell y'all to read The Mind of Germany: The Education of a Nation, by Hans Kohn. If you think Hitler came out of nowhere.
25 posted on 03/15/2009 6:53:31 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: neverdem

Yes. a crisis needs a solution and modern Americans dont seem to want to take the medicine we need - restraint and tightening...the easy solution is to spend, spend, spend...

When this plan causes more problems, the same people will be there with more solutions...

Hitler had one called The Final Solution...

but there never is a final solution. It just shifts to a new and bigger crisis until some sanity returns.

The question is: Are we, the American people willing to return to sanity or have we become so dependent on govt that the idea of self sufficiency has been wrung out of our spirit.


26 posted on 03/15/2009 7:07:18 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: stevie_d_64

Nah, I wasn’t kidding, but that’s not what I was asking LOL.

I thought perhaps you knew more about WHY we are doing this.


27 posted on 03/15/2009 8:41:51 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Those aren't the only differences that matter:
  1. In all previous crises, the world was either on the gold standard, or at least using fixed currency exchange rates. Also, all the macrocoenomic theories we have are based on the assumption of fixed currency exchange rates. But since the 1970s, the world has been usng a floating exchange rate system, which creates a macroeconomic environment that is fundamentally different fron the environment where all our previous analagous cases played out, and for which all our macroeconomic theories were developed. That means that our macroeconomic theories cannot be valid, and that we cannot draw valid macroeconomic conclusions from past examples.
  2. In the case of Germany in the 1930s, they had not eviscerated their manufacturing base. They had the factories, espesically including those that make the fundamental products, such as machine tools.
  3. The USD is the world reserve currency. Were it to lose that status, the consquences to the US would be severe beyond description. To avoid that fate, there are severe constraints on what the US can do. We're between a rock and a hard place.

28 posted on 03/15/2009 8:43:14 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Don’t confuse an oil-slick notion with deep facts! You might have been college educated prior to the seventies or later. Things have ‘change’ ya heuh.


29 posted on 03/15/2009 8:44:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: freema

Well we can summize that it is all about control...

And since my wife bought into this and purchased two “boxes”...I am wondering why she tried to hide that fact from me...

We have cable...Don’t need one of these things...


30 posted on 03/15/2009 12:09:28 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: neverdem
"Posting Title" blast from the past (Freeper past that is)

Have to dig up the original "Something Wicked This Way Comes" posting.

Forget whether it was Lurker, OWK, Jeff or one of the other super Freepers who posted with this title circa 1998 or 1999.....the "Freeper Golden Age"

31 posted on 03/15/2009 4:17:18 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: neverdem
Posted already on FR, but this is what it brings to mind.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

32 posted on 03/16/2009 4:51:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

/mark


33 posted on 03/16/2009 4:54:53 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: neverdem; TigerLikesRooster; nuconvert; FARS; NVDave
The darkest times in human...

history have all begun when someone decided "not to let a serious crisis go to waste".

In fact, it is in times of economic crisis that folks are most susceptible to the ideas of tyrants. We look for an answer, any port in a storm that will shield us...

Great find, neverdem.

34 posted on 03/16/2009 6:23:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (CEO:Chief Embezzlement Officer- CFO:Corporate Fraud Officer-CASH FLOW: money down the toilet.)
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To: neverdem
When good people relinquish the power of the free market, the power that rests in the hands of the individual, and look to a charismatic figure for help, disaster is right around the corner.

This is the problem with dem PR firms - like Carvilles' who get candidates elected: they go for the easily electable. And that's charismatic. The current incentives in place support electing shallow, charismatic, narcissists. In short, Hitler-lite wannabees...

35 posted on 03/16/2009 6:27:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (CEO:Chief Embezzlement Officer- CFO:Corporate Fraud Officer-CASH FLOW: money down the toilet.)
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To: GOPJ

Yup - and people are blind, or don’t want to see it.


36 posted on 03/16/2009 6:28:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The darkest times in human history have all begun when someone decided "not to let a serious crisis go to waste". In fact, it is in times of economic crisis that folks are most susceptible to the ideas of tyrants. We look for an answer, any port in a storm that will shield us from the unknown. And in our desire to be safe, we open ourselves up to things that we would never have dreamed of allowing in normal times.

You'll like this - ping.

37 posted on 03/16/2009 6:40:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (CEO:Chief Embezzlement Officer- CFO:Corporate Fraud Officer-CASH FLOW: money down the toilet.)
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To: grey_whiskers; SuperLuminal; GOPJ; Syncro
Posted already on FR...

The same title was posted within the last month, but the text of the story was completely different. I searched the title on FR and Yahoo. The title is a line from one of the witches in Macbeth. Ray Bradbury used it for a title as well.

Something Wicked This Way Comes

38 posted on 03/16/2009 10:36:48 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
"The same title was posted within the last month, but the text of the story was completely different. I searched the title on FR and Yahoo. The title is a line from one of the witches in Macbeth. Ray Bradbury used it for a title as well. "

I was referring to the title only.

The one I was referring to (the first use on FR) was in 1998-1999. Unfortunately the postings of that era are lost to any "search".

I do, however, have that posting (along with about a hundred others) saved on one of my servers as a Word doc. I am going to try to locate it and re-post it.

Also, I have most of JimRob's early postings saved....back when he was a real firebrand. Of course we all mellow with age....{:-)

39 posted on 03/16/2009 1:33:57 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks for that link.


40 posted on 03/16/2009 2:08:33 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
I do beg to differ.

(Link above is to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2190282/posts).

Cheers!

41 posted on 03/16/2009 3:31:23 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

Bump. Six months later and even scarier.


42 posted on 09/02/2009 10:14:42 PM PDT by centexan (Welcome back 4th ID - great job. Go 1st Cav)
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