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1 posted on 03/16/2009 8:38:26 AM PDT by george76
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Sportsmen nationwide must immediately contact their U.S. representatives and senators.

Ask your congressman and two U.S. senators to urge the Obama Administration to stop the National Park Service from its plan to stop the use lead ammunition and fishing tackle on its lands.

http://www.ussportsmen.org/Page.aspx?pid=1938


2 posted on 03/16/2009 8:41:37 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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While the Bush administration implemented new rules allowing concealed weapons, the Obama team is reviewing those in a growing skirmish pitting Second Amendment advocates against conservationists.


What the heck is anti-conservation about self defense?

The issue pits Second Amendment advocates against against leftist control freaks.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 8:44:33 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics="Trickle-up Poverty")
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Jackson Hole News&Guide Outdoors columnist Paul Bruun said he wouldn’t expect a drop in performance from bullets made from substitute metals.


Lead has a 27% greater density than copper, meaning that the lighter copper bullets won’t have the same range due to the increased effects of drag on a comparable mass bullet.


4 posted on 03/16/2009 8:47:59 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics="Trickle-up Poverty")
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Last week it was the mandated and wasteful destruction of all fired military brass. Now for this week, we have this.

Someone remind me later to thank all the little brainwashed sheep that voted in the current administration.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

5 posted on 03/16/2009 8:48:53 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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"In announcing the lead goal, Wenk said a ban would extend to rangers who put down wounded or injured animals."

If a ranger finds an injured animal, I guess they'll just have to bash their skull in with a rock? (the animals I mean).

Or, as written, does this mean that rangers who put down wounded or injured animals will be banned from National Parks?

Kinda silly for them to ban rangers from the parks, but I guess they're in charge...

7 posted on 03/16/2009 8:51:59 AM PDT by KitJ (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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It started with cigarettes, now this. Where are all the cheerleaders for increasing cigarette taxes? Watch it, caffiene and sugary drinks will soon get a national ban or tax.


8 posted on 03/16/2009 8:51:59 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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The enviro-wacko’s claim wolf re-introduction eliminates the need for hunting by humans


10 posted on 03/16/2009 8:55:25 AM PDT by fso301
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Part of an ongoing agenda to collapse the 2nd Am.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 8:56:00 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Born again Libertarian.)
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No more lead weights and no more...


15 posted on 03/16/2009 9:02:29 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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No swimming, no picnicking, no flower picking, no walking on the grass.

Remember, this is your park.


17 posted on 03/16/2009 9:05:05 AM PDT by DManA
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At issue will be convenience and cost.

To a true overzealous gov't environmentalist, there is no such thing as spending too much money or inconveniencing the populace too much to meet their goals. It's all about the power and control they get by continually taking away yours.....and then telling "you" how it's for your own good.
18 posted on 03/16/2009 9:09:08 AM PDT by Girlene
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The requirement is not based on science or simple logic. Lead has been used in firearms for centuries with no ill effects to nature. A quick walk around our nation's Civil War battle fields should be enough to convince. Those within walking distance of my home are veritable Noah's Arks teeming in deer, rabbit, Balk Eagle, animals of every description. Also, “Lead-Free” applies to all components. Without lead styphenate to stabilize your primers, ammo will have a limited shelf life, and its substitute will cost more as well.
30 posted on 03/16/2009 9:27:25 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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The National Park Service has set a goal of harrassing sportsmen by eliminating lead from fishing and hunting gear by 2010.
34 posted on 03/16/2009 9:36:43 AM PDT by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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Effectively, it eliminates any hunting of any kind.


36 posted on 03/16/2009 9:38:06 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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Fragments of lead bullets are suspected to contaminate scavenger birds, like ravens and eagles, and lead used as fishing weights could poison waterfowl and other species.

Another draconian regulation based on "suspected" and "could".

Disgusting.

39 posted on 03/16/2009 9:46:53 AM PDT by jimt
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are suspected to contaminate . . . . . and lead used as fishing weights could poison waterfowl . . . .

So let's ban it, just because we can.

Pathetic.

41 posted on 03/16/2009 9:49:29 AM PDT by 1066AD
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Deranged, all of them. Why don’t we all just sit in our homes with no electricity. Stop driving, stop doing anything. Just sit in our homes and read books or magazines that are on the zer0 approved reading list. This is out of control now.


44 posted on 03/16/2009 10:07:12 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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If lead bullets are so terrible for the environment, I would guess that much of Europe is glowing by now. Considering all of the lead bullets that have been expended on that continent...


52 posted on 03/16/2009 11:49:38 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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BTW, all hunters/anglers who support the National Wildlife Federation need to know they support this.

From www.theshootingwire.com, and www.theoutdoorwire.com

When the National Park Service decided to ban lead in fishing tackle and ammunition from properties under their control, they probably thought this was another of their little surprised that would stay under the radar. Instead, they’ve found themselves justifiably pilloried by a wide array of organizations representing the hunting and fishing communities and several state legislatures who find their capricious rule-making more than a little offensive.

At this point, the idea of politicians getting angry over bad regulatory policy seems a bit disingenuous, but hey, allies are allies when it comes to the National Park Service.

Anyway, only one group has sent us a release supporting the news that by 2010 the use of lead for fishing or hunting would be banned in the National Park System- the National Wildlife Federation. The NWF has been on the leading edge of the move to ban lead, and has incurred the wrath of hunters and anglers. Groups who have affiliated with the NWF have also found their motives questioned.

The primary fishing and shooting organizations have come out swinging over the decision. The National Shooting Sports Foundation called the decision “arbitrary, over-reactive, and not based on science.”

The American Sportfishing Association says the ban runs “counter to the president’s memo on transparency in government.” ASA Vice President Gordon Robertson says “Their intention to eliminate the use of lead in fishing tackle in national parks was made without prior consultation of the sportfishing industry or the millions of recreational anglers who fish within the national park system.”

“In his January 21, 2009, Executive Memo to federal agency and department heads, President Obama made it very clear that he expects the federal government to be transparent, participatory and collaborative and that ‘executive departments and agencies should offer Americans increased opportunities to participate in policymaking and to provide their Government with the benefits of their collective expertise and information.’ We expect the National Park Service to follow the President’s order.”

Unfortunately, that expectation may be misplaced.

In West Virginia, where the New River Gorge National River covers a vast area of land - and is under NPS administration, state officials are questioning whether the NPS policy violates states’ rights. West Virginia wildlife chief Curtis Taylor has gone on record as believing this decision “will come down to the powers of the states versus the power of the federal government.”

Having just returned from a fishing trip on the White River in Arkansas, I know from conversations with guides and anglers that this decision isn’t one they plan to take without making their opposition known.

In three-days of fishing, the secret weapon for catching fish during our trip was a simple white maribou jig. Under NPS regulations, those same jigs would become banned. As one guide remarked, “the government has more than showed they want to tell us what to do, eat, and think. I’ve already had about enough of their telling me how to behave when they’re doing whatever they please - with our money.”

West Virginia officials may have mirrored the rest of the country’s concerns with their considered opposition. As they’ve indicated a willingness to “come to the table” and dialogue with NPS officials, they’re also on record as saying NPS officials coming to the table with a preconceived notion that banning all lead ammo and fishing tackle is the way to go. If that were the case, they told the Charleston Gazette, “it would be difficult to have an effective dialogue under those circumstances.”

The NPS may be facing a lot of difficult dialogues with this seemingly unilateral decision.

We’ll keep you posted.

—Jim Shepherd


58 posted on 03/16/2009 12:57:22 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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"... The National Park Service has set a goal of eliminating lead from fishing and hunting gear by 2010."

Good.

Maybe this will finally spur the dumb-ass Fudds into realizing that the liberals want to ruin their comfy little sector of the Second Amendment too.

Somewhere out there, there's at least one guy who owns nothing but Perazzi shotguns and voted for Obama who just can't believe what he's reading. Hope this news caused his bunghole to snap shut and ice over with frost.

59 posted on 03/16/2009 2:16:31 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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