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Bury a Gun and Ammo For 15 Years
Backwoods Home Magazine ^ | 03/16/09 | Charles Wood

Posted on 03/16/2009 2:24:25 PM PDT by epow

Back in the early 1990s the outlook for the nation in general and gun owners in particular seemed rather grim to many people. A few years earlier in 1986, Congress had banned civilians from owning newly manufactured machine guns. There was ever more strident talk of banning semi-automatic weapons or so called assault weapons. Many of us regarded a semi-automatic rifle as the foundation of a home defense battery. Many of us believed that more laws banning ever more types of guns were imminent. About that time I acquired a Ruger Ranch Rifle through a private sale. I decided to stash it away in a safe place just in case my worst fear was to materialize, another gun ban. The general location of the pipe after the logging was done. It would have helped if I had had a better method of locating the pipe. The general location of the pipe after the logging was done. It would have helped if I had had a better method of locating the pipe.

First order of business was to decide how I would prepare the gun for long-term storage and where I would store it. I decided that for maximum security I needed to bury it. This would keep it safe from all but the most determined government goons. I set about finding an appropriate location. I live in a fairly remote, wooded rural area in the northeast. One day as I was walking in the woods I noticed a hemlock tree had blown down and been uprooted by a recent windstorm. There was a small crater about eight feet across and three feet deep where the root ball had been torn out of the ground. It occurred to me that this would be a good spot for my rifle.

Since I

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1 posted on 03/16/2009 2:24:25 PM PDT by epow
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To: epow

ping


2 posted on 03/16/2009 2:26:59 PM PDT by unkus
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To: epow
"Congress had illegally banned civilians from owning newly manufactured machine guns"
3 posted on 03/16/2009 2:27:58 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: epow
That's a pretty in-depth story but, I think I want my weapons by my side not, buried in the yard.
4 posted on 03/16/2009 2:29:06 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: epow

If I bury them, they win.


5 posted on 03/16/2009 2:30:03 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: epow
I remember lots of stories about how to do this just after the 1993 AWB. SKSs were the weapon of choice, because you could get them for $50. A small investment toward future uncertainties.
6 posted on 03/16/2009 2:30:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: epow

Don’t know about burying them. Have been trying to go through Texas Gun Trader to trade a CZ-75 for a Kahr K9, EG Makarov or Stoeger 9mm with no takers. Folks are hanging on to what they have and trying to give me worthless cash for mine. Not interested in Obama money....


7 posted on 03/16/2009 2:31:40 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: epow

Why bury something that you may find yourself suddenly in need of...

Those that would come to take your weapons, are those that they should be used on. You wont have time to dig ‘em up!


8 posted on 03/16/2009 2:31:46 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Communism is Socialism with a gun to your head.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>SKSs were the weapon of choice, because you could get them for $50.<<

Dang! I paid $105 for mine!


9 posted on 03/16/2009 2:33:41 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: epow

I’m also of the “if it’s time to bury ‘em, it’s time to use ‘em,” school. But if you should happen to have an extra or so...


10 posted on 03/16/2009 2:35:15 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I remember when they did that. It was on a voice vote so no one could be held accountable.


11 posted on 03/16/2009 2:35:54 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Markos33

No one in their right mind will bury all of their arms.

The idea is to cache some weapons and ammunition for a time following the coming attempted confiscations should the “rebellion” fail and you be stripped of your second amendment protected right.

That way the resistance will not be forced to tool up and create weapons and ammunition from scratch. It’s not to protect your main battle rifle, but to give you a chance to rearm should you be forced to abandon it to keep your life.


12 posted on 03/16/2009 2:37:04 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: wolfcreek

Some ready, some hidden. There are good arguments for both.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 2:41:16 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RobRoy

You can still get a Mosin Nagant M44 for under $100 if you know where to look.


14 posted on 03/16/2009 2:41:42 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: PzLdr

Bury one keep one as you have TWO chances to WIN !


15 posted on 03/16/2009 2:44:39 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: RobRoy

I bought one of those Ruger’s about the same time this guy bought his. I did not bury it however. It is still in the closet today. I also got some extra mags and a few of those metal ammo boxes. This was at a gun show and those things were selling like hot cakes for about $220 for the rifle, about $4 or $5 dollars for the mags and a couple of bucks for the ammo boxes. I saw about 50 rifles go out the door while I was getting mine.

My buddy got an SKS for about $75 and we went out shooting. I like my rifle better than the SKS, but I’ll admit the SKS is a lot of fun. Something about a cheap Chinese rifle and a whole bunch of cheap chinese ammo is quite appealing.


16 posted on 03/16/2009 2:46:55 PM PDT by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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To: wolfcreek

I think that the idea is to have an emergency cache in case the JBT’s raid your house when no one is home and clean you out.


17 posted on 03/16/2009 2:56:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: epow

Ruger Ranch Rifle? Info, anyone?


18 posted on 03/16/2009 2:56:43 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Look on Gunbroker.com. You can search by state so that you can buy FTF.


19 posted on 03/16/2009 2:57:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: epow

While it might be more work at first, I think we should just bury politicians and bureaucrats for 15 years instead. ;)


20 posted on 03/16/2009 2:58:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RobRoy

A couple of years ago you could get a well used Yugo SKS for $89.


21 posted on 03/16/2009 2:58:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: epow

Interesting article.

But can’t the Obama ACORN goons use metal detectors and other technology to find buried guns and ammo?


22 posted on 03/16/2009 2:58:59 PM PDT by Palladin (April 15 is coming. Release your inner tax cheat. Be a Geithner.)
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To: epow

...thanks!....great article.


23 posted on 03/16/2009 2:59:25 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: epow

Bury a Gun and Ammo For 15 Years
Backwoods Home Magazine ^ | 03/16/09 | Charles Wood

Posted on Mon Mar 16 14:24:25 2009 by epow

Back in the early 1990s the outlook for the nation in general and gun owners in particular seemed rather grim to many people. A few years earlier in 1986, Congress had banned civilians from owning newly manufactured machine guns. There was ever more strident talk of banning semi-automatic weapons or so called assault weapons. Many of us regarded a semi-automatic rifle as the foundation of a home defense battery. Many of us believed that more laws banning ever more types of guns were imminent. About that time I acquired a Ruger Ranch Rifle through a private sale. I decided to stash it away in a safe place just in case my worst fear was to materialize, another gun ban. The general location of the pipe after the logging was done. It would have helped if I had had a better method of locating the pipe. The general location of the pipe after the logging was done. It would have helped if I had had a better method of locating the pipe.

First order of business was to decide how I would prepare the gun for long-term storage and where I would store it. I decided that for maximum security I needed to bury it. This would keep it safe from all but the most determined government goons. I set about finding an appropriate location. I live in a fairly remote, wooded rural area in the northeast. One day as I was walking in the woods I noticed a hemlock tree had blown down and been uprooted by a recent windstorm. There was a small crater about eight feet across and three feet deep where the root ball had been torn out of the ground. It occurred to me that this would be a good spot for my rifle.

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24 posted on 03/16/2009 2:59:50 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: epow

A gun buried in the yard is more useless than one locked up with the ammo in one room and the gun in the other. Neither are of much value when they’re actually needed.


25 posted on 03/16/2009 3:00:14 PM PDT by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: Dionysius

It is a Mini-14 with a stainless steel barrel.


26 posted on 03/16/2009 3:00:26 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Palladin

A thick plastic tube would probably defeat any handheld detector, but what will REALLY defeat it is the fact that any buried weapons are likely to be in the middle of hundreds or thousands of square miles of untracked wilderness. Mine would be, anyway.


27 posted on 03/16/2009 3:01:39 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Palladin

But can’t the Obama ACORN goons use metal detectors and other technology to find buried guns and ammo?

Rent nail gun,aim toward ground,repeat 10,000 times. It will drive them crazy.


28 posted on 03/16/2009 3:03:24 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Markos33

I think the recommendation is to bury one or two that you would be thankful that you have.

If “they” come to your door, just give them all you have. Dig up what you need after “they” have gone. It would be reckless and probably wrong to resist gun confiscation. However, it would be your civic duty to suddenly remember that you had buried that long distance scoped rifle and a 45 pistol somewhere else.

In the meantime, that compound bow you have might come in handy.


29 posted on 03/16/2009 3:03:55 PM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (NAACP=Nubians Against All Caucasian People)
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To: Palladin

But they have to know where to look, first. Spread all kinds of pieces of metal a couple hundred yards from your cache as decoys. Also bury them in unexpected places, like on top of a fresh grave. The metal vault will defeat any metal detection equipment and if the deceased was a patriot, they won’t mind being a sentinel. And if the deceased is a anti-gun liberal, you will piss them off for eternity. Bury near or at the edge of a junkyard.


30 posted on 03/16/2009 3:04:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: epow
I also purged the air from the tube with nitrogen before sealing it. This was undoubtedly overkill but I had it available so I used it.

That's too funny. One can never be too prepared.

True story: A friend's grandfather was a child of the Great Depression. He was farmed out as a hired hand and abandoned by his parents. He didn't trust the government or banks. So over the years, he wrapped up all of his savings (cash, coin, gold, jewelry) in multiple, vacuum-sealed jelly jars and buried them all over his property. He worked minimum-wage jobs all of his life. He paid cash for everything through the years: property, house, cars, etc. About ten years ago, on his deathbed, he gave his wife a map to find the money. His kids had a fit, dug it all up and invested it, complaining all the while that the measly $30,000 could have been $x by now. They lost every penny of it this year in the stock market crash.

As my own Great Depression grandfather used to say, "The old man doesn't look so stupid now, does he?"

31 posted on 03/16/2009 3:06:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: epow
Consider that you may want to start your own “Recycling”program – collecting cans thrown by the side of the road. Soup cans, bottle caps from your kitchen.

Spent casings from the range [for the metal and powder scent]

You can cheaply set up a number of 'false targets' around where you bury you hardware

32 posted on 03/16/2009 3:09:06 PM PDT by Sarisky (Get the H**l out of my Way!!!)
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To: Palladin
The key is to sow the area with plenty of steel rubbish,heavy nuts and bolts,even car parts like brake drums,rotors anything that`ll give a false signal.The problem is with ground penetrating radar,could metal sheeting,tin foil sheets,aluminum siding,work?
33 posted on 03/16/2009 3:15:07 PM PDT by nomad (`)
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To: Dionysius

A Mini-14. .223/5.56


34 posted on 03/16/2009 3:20:57 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Just be careful,the detectors now can differentiate between big and little pieces of metal.I used to own a fairly decent model that I used to “treasure hunt” with,found some cool stuff too,coins and jewelry.Not much money wise but just fun to use,sold it for spare cash though,bummer.


35 posted on 03/16/2009 3:23:19 PM PDT by nomad (`)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

It would be reckless and probably wrong to resist gun confiscation...

This is where I think you might be wrong. Don’t we have far more power than we realize?

Very simple, what if everyone, EVERYONE refused to turn in their guns?

They can’t possibly jail everyone that stands UNITED.

This is what they are afraid of people doing.


36 posted on 03/16/2009 3:25:31 PM PDT by pantherskincreek
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To: nomad
keep in mind the two types of metal – ferrous and non-ferrous.

Ferrous meaning Fe or Iron & steel

Non-ferrous – Aluminum, Brass

The metal detectors can distinguish between the two types

Sheet metal may be enough of an RF shield to mask whatevers underneath, but it may be useful to have several layers of cheap, flat metal to confuse the issue

Pie Tins might be a good choice – Everybody likes pie, so save the tins for a “Reverse Treasure Hunt”

37 posted on 03/16/2009 3:30:15 PM PDT by Sarisky (Get the H**l out of my Way!!!)
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To: epow

If it’s time to bury them, it’s time to use them.


38 posted on 03/16/2009 3:31:02 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: epow

Good info...
Its just sad that we have to resort to such tactics in the USA.


39 posted on 03/16/2009 3:32:04 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: BuckeyeTexan
As my own Great Depression grandfather used to say, "The old man doesn't look so stupid now, does he?"

So if he would have started investing his money in lets say 1950, even if he lost 40% of the value of it this year and last, do you think it was still wise to stick it in mason jars? If he could have Forest Gumped it, it could be worth quite a tidy sum today.

A couple of years back two guys got in the paper saying they found some cache of pre-1935 dollars under some tree roots. I think the value of it in todays dollars was over $100,000 if the money was sold to collectors. Anyway, they were bragging about how they found it, got in the news papers and on TV and then it was discovered that they did a roofing job and found it hidden in the attic when they had to repair the wood beneath the shingles. If I remember correctly, they were charged with theft and had to give the money back. Some old guy had gone to his grave never telling anyone about his stash.

40 posted on 03/16/2009 3:33:10 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: RobRoy

Cheapest one I saw at a gun show last month was $300.


41 posted on 03/16/2009 3:34:47 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And if the deceased is a anti-gun liberal, you will piss them off for eternity

LOL !! Excellent!

42 posted on 03/16/2009 3:41:48 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also bury them in unexpected places, like on top of a fresh grave.

I was thinking under a beehive might be good.

43 posted on 03/16/2009 3:41:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Billthedrill

Hah. If I buried anything, much less a gun even if I had one, I’d never be able to find it again.


44 posted on 03/16/2009 3:41:51 PM PDT by Twinkie (Obama is NOT Reagan !)
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To: Twinkie
I buried something but I do not remember what or where. lol
45 posted on 03/16/2009 3:45:24 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Sawdring

He didn’t have any money to invest in 1950. He worked minimum-wage jobs, paid cash for everything, and was finally able to start saving only a few years before he passed. (All of it was SS income minus monthly expenses.)

Could he have been smarter? Sure. But now the money’s gone and precisely for the reasons he imagined.


46 posted on 03/16/2009 3:47:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Twinkie

LOL! Yeah. Me too.


47 posted on 03/16/2009 3:52:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I spent too much time working on my SKS to bury it in the back yard......

SKS2

48 posted on 03/16/2009 3:54:15 PM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: Eagles6; Blood of Tyrants

Thanks. I’ve always liked the mini-14. It reminded me of the M14 which was the best rifle I ever fired in the army. I wish I had picked one up for a couple of hundred when I had the chance (I feel that it would have been most comforting now).


49 posted on 03/16/2009 3:54:32 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: Sarisky

I would bury several dozen of those high powered super magnets along with a couple rolls of pennies to mimic bullets, maybe toss in some fishing weights. And just to get more imaginative do the pipe bit but just use some 4’ ABS about a foot long with caps, toss all the above in and glue it up.

Bury these as another poster commented in obvious places, make sure they are upright in case a portable ground radar is used.

To shield the real deal I would make a shield of a rubber mud flap that could have something dense like spraying it with glue and throwing a layer of lead shot on it, or get some lead foil. Having it under a tree is an excellent idea.

Course anything said here and now is being noted so be adaptable.


50 posted on 03/16/2009 4:01:47 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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