Posted on 03/17/2009 7:47:08 PM PDT by Viking2002
A recent government policy change has taken a bite out of the nation's already stressed ammunition supply, leaving arms dealers scrambling to find bullets for private gun owners.
Georgia Arms is a company that for the last 15 years has been purchasing fired brass shell casings from the Department of Defense and private government surplus liquidators. The military collects the discarded casings from fired rounds, then sells them through liquidators to companies like Georgia Arms that remanufacture the casings into ammunition for the law enforcement and civilian gun owner communities.
But earlier this month, Georgia Arms received a canceled order, informed by its supplier that the government now requires fired brass casings be mutilated, in other words, destroyed to a scrap metal state.
The policy change, handed down from the Department of Defense through the Defense Logistics Agency, cuts a supply leg out from underneath ammunition manufacturers.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
Fifty Thousand M-14s were donated to Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania back in '97-'98. Better than destroying them, I guess.
do we have a gun ping list and if so can i please be added
We all know brass is very dangerous to the environment.
I’ve actually looked at running. My local repub party is
geriatric and painfully self-deceived with respect to affairs further than 100 miles from their homes.
And I’m not sure I’d want to run under the repub label. Alot of our problems stem from existing repubs compromising basic principles for the sake of fitting into a compromised republican party line in order to get elected/reelected and the campaign money that goes with the GOP.
I can’t swallow this lure without upchucking.
Thanks to commies like Soros, and the financial requirements of a modern campaign, the barriers to electing rational individuals is daunting.
Somebody got an answer to this extremely vexing problem, please share.
They never give up. They will be back in some new way on another day.
"The Orlando Sentinel reports months of steady, heavy buying have left gun dealers in Florida facing shortages of ammunition."
I made a very quick stop earlier today at the "Florida Gun Exchange" in Port Orange, Volusia County Florida (about 60 miles NE of Orlando) to pick up some .38SPL ammo for a recently acquired older S&W Model 10. My 85 year old mama-in-law was in the car with me as we were retuning home after she had completed a scheduled doctor visit. I knew my "ammo stop" would have to be "quick" as she agreed to the stop and would be "in the car" while I "shopped".
It was my first visit to the very popular and well "cable advertized" gun shop.
As I entered, the first thing I saw was a "substantial" neatly stacked "display" (in the middle of the floor) of what at a quick glace were ( without actually counting around 30-40) 1000 rd boxes of Federal 9mm ammo (didn't catch the actual "specs" of what the boxes contained because of smaller print) with a sign on the stack posting a price of $279.00 per box.
The store was quite busy, I was finally waited on, and when I inquired about purchasing some .38SPL ammo, his smiling demeanor did a COMPLETE "180" as he told me that the store had NO FMJ .38SPL ammo for me to choose from, and that their back order situation is approaching the 60 day mark, with NO indication of when their vendors will be able to start filling their ever decreasing remaining stock.
I settled for one box of 20 Federal .38SPL 110gr JHP HYDRA-SHOK @ $22.95 ( to keep in the gun for it's "home defense" use), and had to settle for 2 50 rd boxes of MAGTECH .38SPL 158gr SJSP @$19.95 for when I get to try the weapon out for the first time.
The "sales associate" pointed to the shelves behind the counter containing their inventory of smaller quantity and specialty boxes of ammo and quietly lamented to me that he hopes "thing get better....SOON".
I then mentioned the "stack" of 9mm ammo I saw when I entered, to which he replied "When that stack goes, I'm afraid it'll be a while before we can count on getting another large shipment to replace it."
From my brief but very "eye-opening" first visit to the Florida Gun Exchange, I also hope the ammo situation in my area (and everyone else's) does "get better...SOON" .
The length mere mortals will go trying to defy power beyond their comprehension. The Market for Drugs and Guns will no more be changed than the course of a mighty river.
The war on drugs has only accomplished one thing: to raise the price of drugs. Are drugs still around? Mortal monkeys who refuse to admit the market has and will continue to kick their azzes every time. As a taxpayer, I can think of better ways to spend/waste money.
These idiots might just as well waste money on anti-gravity inserts for shoes.
whats going on ?
Which is why many years ago, I concentrated on .22 ammo. My pistol & 3 rifles all use .22 long rifle ammo. I have around 25,000 rounds now and every month or so add another 1,000. Its cheap and easy to get (for now).
I do also have a few other weapons but if all else fails, I will have ammo for a long time for the 22’s
Just from a fiscal POV this a stupid move. I wish the article had given a figure for how much the government used to bring in through sale of its once-fired brass.
It just gets harder and harder to believe this administration is not intentionally trying to crash the economy.
Georgia Arms, my main supplier of.357 Sig dodges a bullet. Good deal
I get notices from GovernmentLiquidation or somesuch. (Boy - too bad with that name they are just talking about surplus junk!).
Anyway - I found the following. Sorry about the all-caps.
I hope these dealers can now change it so this doesn’t need to get mutilated. And the photos on the site (with the brass next to rulers for comaparison) - it looks like perfectly good stuff!
Eleven 8-foot containers worth (37,655 lbs) !!!!!! Price the other day was $150.00 for it all!!!!!!!
LOT (37, 655 LBS)APPROX SMALL CALIBER FIRED BRASS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO (12, 850 LBS )5. 56 MM , (4, 063 LBS)9MM BALL EXPENDED, (8, 389 LBS)7. 62 MM, (4, 906 LBS)50 CALIBER. STORED IN 11, 8 CONTAINERS. WEIGHT OF CONTAINERS IS INCLUDED IN THE WEIGHT AND SALE. ALL SCRAP IN THIS SALE REQUIRES MUTILATION BY THE BUYER PRIOR TO REMOVAL IF ALLOWED BY THE INSTALLATION OR MUTILATION MUST BE WITNESSED AND CERTIFIED BY DOD SURPLUS PERSONNEL AT ANOTHER FACILITY. THE TITLE TO THE MATERIAL DOES NOT PASS TO THE BUYER UNTIL THE SCRAP HAS BEEN MUTILATED. BUYER AGREES TO ALLOW USG PERSONNEL TO WITNESS DESTRUCTION. WILL LOAD FLATBED ONLY.
“do we have a gun ping list”
I don’t recall seeing one lately, but if you don’t already know about the following...you could try it (in case you already know this, maybe someone else will read this—I know that I always appreciated learning new things about the FR software).
Since the keyword “banglist” is added to most all of the gun articles, you can have a list of them appear on your main FR page. How to do that...
Go to the list of Keywords under the article above and click on “banglist”...
...on the resulting page go to near the bottom of the page on the right side and click on “Add to My Page”.
Then go to this page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/manage-blocks
...look for the line “Keyword: banglist” and choose the location on your page and number of “banglist” article titles you want to see on your main FR page.
When finished choosing, click the “modify” button at the bottom of the page.
To return to the “My Page Layout” page, click “Account” at the top of your main FR page...then click “Manage Blocks”.
Yep! MOTS!
Ya gotta start somewhere if "GOP" is ever going to mean anything respectable, again. As of this moment, it means "Gutless Oligarchical Putzes". Beyond that, though, you need a vision beyond the party, itself; you need a vision for The Republic.
Make your campaign theme something along these lines:
If things were as they ought to be, "R" would be understood to stand for Respect, Responsibility, Reason, Righteousness, and Republic. I'm running to restore all of the above.
VOTE [your name here] for [public office].
If you take the plunge, it'll be up to you to deliver in spades on all counts, but if you pull it off you'll have the peace of knowing that you did what you could to stop the leftward drift, and you'll never have to apologize to your grandkids' generation for your failure to act.
And in the eyes of the Clintonoids, much better than letting them fall into the wrong hands, the ordinary US citizenry, even if only as "parts kits" to be applied to a new semi-auto only reciever. Let alone to have the original receiver modified, which I understand would have been easy to a semi-auto only configuration. (Which would violate the BATFE "rule" that once a machine gun, always a machine gun, but that is only rule not anything in the US Code.)
And Eric Holder is Attorney General. I think that for those exercising their rights protected by the second amendment, or wishing to, that is even worse.
...buncha wretched bass turds...
A.A.C.
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