Residents Face $400 In Fines For Not Recycling

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[boxerblues]

LAKEWOOD, Ohio -- Lakewood residents could be charged up to $400 if they don't recycle.

A new law makes recycling mandatory starting July 1 for people who get municipal trash collection, NewsChannel5 reported.

If people do not separate recyclable materials, the city can charge a fee. For the first violation, it's a minimum of $50, $100 for the second offense and up to $400.

The new law authorizes the city to either charge residents a fee for city employees to separate recyclable materials or to stop trash collection to a home altogether.

An educational handbook will be sent out to residents.

[Nervous Tick]

Thanks for helping to elect Bambi, Ohio.

Here’s your prize...

[Typical_Whitey]

Soon the Obama neighborhood brigades will be monitoring your electricity and water usage too. Off to the re-education camps for keeping your houses at the Non-government mandated settings and overwatering your lawns.

Under Obama and the Rats our Freedom is dying a little bit more each day.

[hkp123]

OK. Stop collecting at a home and then see what happens in the neighborHOOD. Typical Cleveland area. Watch out Detroit, you’re next, if they’re any people left.

[Crolis]

This kind of thing is ridiculous. Seems like the waste management company should do the “management”. Why does the homeowner have to recycle? Seems like the point at which trash should be sorted should be after it is picked up and gets to the main waste management building.

Could be a growth industry for non-violent offenders in jail, although I’m sure trash sorters would be quickly unionized.

[MeanWestTexan]

I would get the list of people who donated to Dhims and dump recyclable crap in their garbage.

Do a new one each week.

[Koblenz]

Recycling aluminum makes sense. Recycling cardboard makes sense, because cardboard usually accumulates at retail locations, so there's a lot of volume in a few places.

Recycling newspaper is about breakeven.

Recycling anything else is ridiculous. Recycling glass bottles is just plain idiotic. You've got four different colors - clear, blue, brown and green -- and they don't mix well. One pyrex glass in a recycling container makes about 2 tons of glass unusable.

But most ridiculous of all: glass is made from SAND. When there's no more sand in the Mohave, you can have my empty Beck's bottles. Until then, I'm tossing them in the trash.

Recycling plastic is stupid. The resins don't mix well, and it seems like it way more trouble than it's worth.

[Lowcountry]

This just proves that recycling is nothing that it pretends to be. If recycling made any sense, it would be economical. If it made economic sense, there would be money in it. If there was money in it, no one would be forced to do it, much less be forced to pay a fine for not doing it.

Who receives the money that the soda manufacturers pay for the cheap aluminum in recycled cans?

[Glenn]

It’s been like that in my town for more than 10 years.

They also have a rule that you must “clean” glass recyclables before putting them in the bin. I refuse to pay for the water and sewage fee it would cost to clean them.

One of their more idiotic rules is that you may not put recyclables in a recyclable plastic bag before putting them in the bin.

[boxerblues]

Lakewood known as the Gold Coast for its high GLBTS communities deserves this. I live one county over and we just had our recycling service canceled due to the high costs

[RobRoy]

>>The new law authorizes the city to either charge residents a fee for city employees to separate recyclable materials or to stop trash collection to a home altogether.<<

Excellent. You can just save it up and haul it yourself to the dump. Or the dumpster at the nearest apartment complex.

This is assuming the customer can opt to cancel trash service.

[Albion Wilde]

One of their more idiotic rules is that you may not put recyclables in a recyclable plastic bag before putting them in the bin.

Here, you must put bottles and cans in recyclable plastic bags or they will not take them. They won't even take a 5-gallon plastic detergent bottle if it is set on the curb without a little plastic grocery bag around it.

Conversely, if you set out your paper shreddings in a tied-up recyclable clear plastic bag, they won't take them. So you must put the stuff from the shredder in a paper bag, which means it will blow all over tarnation; or you must use an expensive corrugated carton instead of re-using the carton.

[EBH]

If this community is using the same company as mine they don’t need to necessarily sort their recyclables.

They can use one blue bag for all plastic, glass, and cans.

[ßuddaßudd]

How much do I have to pay to keep the less fortunate from going through my trash every week and stealing the recyclables?

[boxerblues]

Well the article says that the city can stop trash collection, but I doubt they would allow the home owner to cancel it. Where would the city get its tax money from?

[Professor_Leonide]

Well, I’ve visited Lakewood, Ohio and it’s a very liberal city with Ohio’s largest gay community, or so some silly leftist lady told me proudly.

Let the buggers separate their trash.

[RobRoy]

This clarifies why I REALLY hate this law and any like it:
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sp8PzgY7XA
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck3WqDPtW0E
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA3iWNTQci8

This whole thing is law enforced BS.

[FoxInSocks]

Shiny new recycling bins showed up at every house on the street last year. Since they’re not charging me [directly] for the collection, I make the tiny effort to keep most of the trash sorted. It’s not worth it for me to pay for recycling service.

[AirForceMom]

We already have that here, along with 2 “garbage police” that drive around making sure you go by town rules for garbage.

[boxerblues]

I’ve worked out a system with my local dumpster divers. I wait to see them coming down the street before I start setting it out, get them to back their truck into my driveway and load it up. Saves me the trouble of hauling it out to the street and they get a full load. My regular garbage doesnt go out until I leave in the morning so its not out all night :)

[Publius Valerius]

Here’s your prize...

I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever: I am sure the residents of Lakewood, Ohio are quite thrilled at this development. It is, after all, the heart of Kucinich country.

[Tex Pete]

My city-issued recycle bin makes a great ash receptacle(after the ashes have cooled, of course).

[razorback-bert]

Do the trucks have separate bins for the different materials?

[RobRoy]

I used to live within city limits and was forced to get trash service. I am just outside now. I still get it though. If they imposed a law like this I would stop it in a New York minute.

[Mark was here]

What a bunch of loony voters. This plan is just their will being implemented. They rank right up there with the buffoon voters who are responsible for the Kelo ordeal.

[boxerblues]

Couldn't tell you, when we did city wide the trucks had separate bins but and its a big but, the guys working usually picked up the entire bin and threw on the truck without separating it

[giotto]

Twenty years ago I drew a cartoon depicting two uniformed women going through a garbage can. One was holding a bottle and saying, "Glass bottles, I found GLASS BOTTLES!!!" with an outraged expression on her face. The other was writing a citation for the hapless resident.

At the time, my cartoon was just an absurd extrapolation of the recycling mania taking hold in the late eighties. Today that absurdity has become reality.

[TheBattman]

And Marxism marches on.

Nothing like Jack-Booted-Thugs enforcing trash regulations...

[ViLaLuz]

This type of insanity has already taken root in the UK. If we don’t nip it in the bud now, the USA will soon be in the same boat.

[beaversmom]

Here’s how it ends up:

Waste wars: how Britain became obsessed with bins
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2193333/posts

[boxerblues]

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sp8PzgY7XA

Recycle lightly soiled toilet paper? Calling Sheryl Crow

[briarbey b]

This one is easy. Cancel trash pick-up. Find a landfill nearby and go dump your own. That is where these companies go anyway.

[Red6]

But it’s to “save the planet!”

Morons-

[CodeToad]

My garbage would end up on their lawn. Time to tea party those idiots.

[Erik Latranyi]

Why do we have recycling programs?

First, many people are sympathetic to the ‘landfill is evil’ concept.

Second, many people feel good sorting their trash because they THINK it is helping the environment.

Third, many conservatives have relented on this issue and do what they are told.

Fourth, recycling only makes sense if the revenue gained from the recycled matter exceeds the costs of separating/collecting it....of course recycling has NEVER exceeded the costs of collection alone (even if YOUR time sorting is calculated at $0 per hour).

Lastly, if recycling was profitable, it would not have to be MANDATED by gov’t.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

Around here, the “recycled” glass is just ground up to produce ... sand.

[Melinda in TN]

I thank the good Lord daily that I don’t live in a “neighborhood”. I save my trash for about 6 weeks and take it to the dump. Anything that will burn (paper, boxes, etc) goes in the burning barrel in the back yard. Yep, it’s legal to burn trash in a barrel here. We don’t have garbage pickup here so almost everybody takes trash to the landfill themselves. If you go on Saturday or Sunday it only costs $2 a load. Heck, we’ve only had city water for two years. We don’t have cable TV or high speed Internet. My Internet is satellite. You couldn’t pay me to live in a subdivision or other civilized neighborhood. :-)

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

I got tired of the bozo goin’ through my recycle bin for aluminum cans. Now, I just flatten them out, and put them in extra garbage cans in the shed. Tomorrow, I go to the recycling place in Bedford, and get money for my three garbage cans full of flatso beer cans.

[Doctor Raoul]

What’s with the pyrex?

[Right Wing Assault]

Lakewood known as the Gold Coast for its high GLBTS communities

Lakewood itself is not know as the Gold Coast. It's just "Lakewood." The section of luxury high rises right along the lake, which were built mostly in the 60s IIRC, is called the Gold Coast.

There are a number of mansions along there, too.

A steal at $1.8 million.

They are responsible for a lot of tax revenue. They are what give Lakewood its relatively high population density of almost 10,000 per square mile. GLBTS doesn't really have anything to do with the name, although there are a lot of them in Lakewood.

[Right Wing Assault]

I am sure the residents of Lakewood, Ohio are quite thrilled at this development.

Not all of them. 9:15 am Palin rally in Lakewood. People went to work late and took their kids to the rally.

[ApplegateRanch]

Nothing wrong with this nation that recycling 50,000,000 Liberals wouldn’t cure.

[ApplegateRanch]

Well the article says that the city can stop trash collection, but I doubt they would allow the home owner to cancel it. Where would the city get its tax money from?

Charge an in lieu of fee, PLUS charge you tipping fees when you haul it in?

[Irish Queen]

Perhaps this post from last Monday is still relevant to this discussion. Monday, March 16, 2009 8:17:52 AM · 21 of 25 Irish Queen to BGHater

We moved from the Cenral Coast of California to Northern Nevada. One of the perks of living in rural Nevada is that our county does not have recyling. Hallelujah! No yellow, green, or blue bins. No more sorting! No more stinky fly attracting bins! Waste Management picks up everything in one giant container once a week.

My sister and her husband came from Southern California for visit.

After carrying their luggage into our guest room, my brother-in-law asked me to follow him out to their car. "These are for you."He handed me two white plastic bags. One bag contained empty plastic water bottles; the other bag held soda pop cans.

I flipped open the trash can lid.

My brother-in-law was horrified. "Stop! I saved these for you, for you recycle bins."

I laughed, "This is my one-and-only recycle bin--everything goes in here." He was shocked,"But, but, plastic and aluminum must be recycled."

"There is no curbside recyling in this county." I handed the bags back to him with a smile. Take the bags back home with you if you want to recycle them."

He dropped the bags into our large green trash can.

Just a note to those who by choice or law have and use recycle bins. Much of what you carefully sort into the appropriate bins is never actually recycled at all. Unless a company like Waste Management can make a profit selling the stuff, it is recyled right into the landfill.

[Forgiven_Sinner]

I lived in Lakewood from 1981 to 1988. Very family oriented city, beautiful with 60-100 foot trees all over. Every house has a tree.

There were two streets of mansions: Lake and Clifton. Lake avenue mansions had their back yards to Lake Erie, about 100-200 feet from the road. Lakewood park would get you to the lake. That’s where the Sarah Palin rally was held, I’d guess.

I don’t know what has happened to the city that this stupid legislation passed. I’d guess it was slipped in as a “recycling bill” without anyone knowing about the $400 fine.

[Right Wing Assault]

I don’t know what has happened to the city that this stupid legislation passed. I’d guess it was slipped in as a “recycling bill” without anyone knowing about the $400 fine.

A lot of the core people moved to Westlake and then Avon Lake. The dems gave us Section 8 losers. Now there are a ton of foreclosures and houses selling for under $100k. Values are down 35% or more.

They claim they made money on recycling the last few years instead of paying to haul it to a landfill. Right now they are giving it away, but it's better than paying to landfill it.

[Taffini]

>>>Or the dumpster at the nearest apartment complex.

My brother-in-law was a pill. His dumpster of choice was a grocery store’s. He used to say he was going to St. Danny’s when he had to make a run. That’s probably why they are out of business—the high cost of their trash disposal.

[RobRoy]

Which is why I bought my 13 acres in rural central Kentucky last October. ;)

I now have a calf as well...

[dalereed]

“GLBTS”

If you’re too damn lazy to type out what you mean don’t post it!

[meyer]

Flakewood, Ohio - gay capital of the region. It sits in very liberal Cuyahoga County, adjacent to Cleveland. If I were a resident of this oppressive suburb, I would go to great lengths to circumvent this ridiculous law.