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Residents Face $400 In Fines For Not Recycling
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Posted on 03/18/2009 2:34:21 PM PDT by boxerblues

LAKEWOOD, Ohio -- Lakewood residents could be charged up to $400 if they don't recycle.

A new law makes recycling mandatory starting July 1 for people who get municipal trash collection, NewsChannel5 reported.

If people do not separate recyclable materials, the city can charge a fee. For the first violation, it's a minimum of $50, $100 for the second offense and up to $400.

The new law authorizes the city to either charge residents a fee for city employees to separate recyclable materials or to stop trash collection to a home altogether.

An educational handbook will be sent out to residents.


TOPICS: US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: precycling; recycling; zoning
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1 posted on 03/18/2009 2:34:21 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: boxerblues

Thanks for helping to elect Bambi, Ohio.

Here’s your prize...


2 posted on 03/18/2009 2:38:08 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: boxerblues

Soon the Obama neighborhood brigades will be monitoring your electricity and water usage too. Off to the re-education camps for keeping your houses at the Non-government mandated settings and overwatering your lawns.

Under Obama and the Rats our Freedom is dying a little bit more each day.


3 posted on 03/18/2009 2:38:33 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (We are living in The Night Of The Obama Zombies)
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To: boxerblues

OK. Stop collecting at a home and then see what happens in the neighborHOOD. Typical Cleveland area. Watch out Detroit, you’re next, if they’re any people left.


4 posted on 03/18/2009 2:39:01 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: boxerblues

This kind of thing is ridiculous. Seems like the waste management company should do the “management”. Why does the homeowner have to recycle? Seems like the point at which trash should be sorted should be after it is picked up and gets to the main waste management building.

Could be a growth industry for non-violent offenders in jail, although I’m sure trash sorters would be quickly unionized.


5 posted on 03/18/2009 2:39:41 PM PDT by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: boxerblues

I would get the list of people who donated to Dhims and dump recyclable crap in their garbage.

Do a new one each week.


6 posted on 03/18/2009 2:40:17 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: boxerblues
Recycling aluminum makes sense. Recycling cardboard makes sense, because cardboard usually accumulates at retail locations, so there's a lot of volume in a few places.

Recycling newspaper is about breakeven.

Recycling anything else is ridiculous. Recycling glass bottles is just plain idiotic. You've got four different colors - clear, blue, brown and green -- and they don't mix well. One pyrex glass in a recycling container makes about 2 tons of glass unusable.

But most ridiculous of all: glass is made from SAND. When there's no more sand in the Mohave, you can have my empty Beck's bottles. Until then, I'm tossing them in the trash.

Recycling plastic is stupid. The resins don't mix well, and it seems like it way more trouble than it's worth.

7 posted on 03/18/2009 2:40:49 PM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: boxerblues
This just proves that recycling is nothing that it pretends to be. If recycling made any sense, it would be economical. If it made economic sense, there would be money in it. If there was money in it, no one would be forced to do it, much less be forced to pay a fine for not doing it.

Who receives the money that the soda manufacturers pay for the cheap aluminum in recycled cans?

8 posted on 03/18/2009 2:41:13 PM PDT by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: boxerblues

It’s been like that in my town for more than 10 years.

They also have a rule that you must “clean” glass recyclables before putting them in the bin. I refuse to pay for the water and sewage fee it would cost to clean them.

One of their more idiotic rules is that you may not put recyclables in a recyclable plastic bag before putting them in the bin.


9 posted on 03/18/2009 2:41:14 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Lakewood known as the Gold Coast for its high GLBTS communities deserves this. I live one county over and we just had our recycling service canceled due to the high costs


10 posted on 03/18/2009 2:41:55 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: boxerblues

>>The new law authorizes the city to either charge residents a fee for city employees to separate recyclable materials or to stop trash collection to a home altogether.<<

Excellent. You can just save it up and haul it yourself to the dump. Or the dumpster at the nearest apartment complex.

This is assuming the customer can opt to cancel trash service.


11 posted on 03/18/2009 2:45:42 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Glenn
One of their more idiotic rules is that you may not put recyclables in a recyclable plastic bag before putting them in the bin.

Here, you must put bottles and cans in recyclable plastic bags or they will not take them. They won't even take a 5-gallon plastic detergent bottle if it is set on the curb without a little plastic grocery bag around it.

Conversely, if you set out your paper shreddings in a tied-up recyclable clear plastic bag, they won't take them. So you must put the stuff from the shredder in a paper bag, which means it will blow all over tarnation; or you must use an expensive corrugated carton instead of re-using the carton.

12 posted on 03/18/2009 2:46:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: Crolis

If this community is using the same company as mine they don’t need to necessarily sort their recyclables.

They can use one blue bag for all plastic, glass, and cans.


13 posted on 03/18/2009 2:46:50 PM PDT by EBH (The world is a balance between good & evil, your next choice will tip the scale.)
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To: boxerblues
How much do I have to pay to keep the less fortunate from going through my trash every week and stealing the recyclables?
14 posted on 03/18/2009 2:46:54 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: RobRoy

Well the article says that the city can stop trash collection, but I doubt they would allow the home owner to cancel it. Where would the city get its tax money from?


15 posted on 03/18/2009 2:47:25 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: boxerblues

Well, I’ve visited Lakewood, Ohio and it’s a very liberal city with Ohio’s largest gay community, or so some silly leftist lady told me proudly.

Let the buggers separate their trash.


16 posted on 03/18/2009 2:48:01 PM PDT by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: Crolis; All

This clarifies why I REALLY hate this law and any like it:
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sp8PzgY7XA
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck3WqDPtW0E
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA3iWNTQci8

This whole thing is law enforced BS.


17 posted on 03/18/2009 2:48:47 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: boxerblues

Shiny new recycling bins showed up at every house on the street last year. Since they’re not charging me [directly] for the collection, I make the tiny effort to keep most of the trash sorted. It’s not worth it for me to pay for recycling service.


18 posted on 03/18/2009 2:50:05 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: Nervous Tick

We already have that here, along with 2 “garbage police” that drive around making sure you go by town rules for garbage.


19 posted on 03/18/2009 2:50:49 PM PDT by AirForceMom (Locked and loaded, and sharpening my pitchfork.)
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To: ├čudda├čudd

I’ve worked out a system with my local dumpster divers. I wait to see them coming down the street before I start setting it out, get them to back their truck into my driveway and load it up. Saves me the trouble of hauling it out to the street and they get a full load. My regular garbage doesnt go out until I leave in the morning so its not out all night :)


20 posted on 03/18/2009 2:50:53 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: Nervous Tick
Here’s your prize...

I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever: I am sure the residents of Lakewood, Ohio are quite thrilled at this development. It is, after all, the heart of Kucinich country.

21 posted on 03/18/2009 2:51:00 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: boxerblues

My city-issued recycle bin makes a great ash receptacle(after the ashes have cooled, of course).


22 posted on 03/18/2009 2:51:27 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: boxerblues

Do the trucks have separate bins for the different materials?


23 posted on 03/18/2009 2:53:13 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Will trade sex for ammo)
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To: boxerblues

I used to live within city limits and was forced to get trash service. I am just outside now. I still get it though. If they imposed a law like this I would stop it in a New York minute.


24 posted on 03/18/2009 2:54:07 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: boxerblues
What a bunch of loony voters. This plan is just their will being implemented. They rank right up there with the buffoon voters who are responsible for the Kelo ordeal.
25 posted on 03/18/2009 2:55:26 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: razorback-bert
Couldn't tell you, when we did city wide the trucks had separate bins but and its a big but, the guys working usually picked up the entire bin and threw on the truck without separating it
26 posted on 03/18/2009 2:55:58 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: boxerblues
Twenty years ago I drew a cartoon depicting two uniformed women going through a garbage can. One was holding a bottle and saying, "Glass bottles, I found GLASS BOTTLES!!!" with an outraged expression on her face. The other was writing a citation for the hapless resident.

At the time, my cartoon was just an absurd extrapolation of the recycling mania taking hold in the late eighties. Today that absurdity has become reality.

27 posted on 03/18/2009 2:56:00 PM PDT by giotto
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To: boxerblues

And Marxism marches on.

Nothing like Jack-Booted-Thugs enforcing trash regulations...


28 posted on 03/18/2009 2:58:36 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: boxerblues

This type of insanity has already taken root in the UK. If we don’t nip it in the bud now, the USA will soon be in the same boat.


29 posted on 03/18/2009 3:00:13 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: boxerblues

Here’s how it ends up:

Waste wars: how Britain became obsessed with bins
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2193333/posts


30 posted on 03/18/2009 3:03:04 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: RobRoy

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sp8PzgY7XA

Recycle lightly soiled toilet paper? Calling Sheryl Crow


31 posted on 03/18/2009 3:06:03 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: boxerblues

This one is easy. Cancel trash pick-up. Find a landfill nearby and go dump your own. That is where these companies go anyway.


32 posted on 03/18/2009 3:17:47 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Nervous Tick

But it’s to “save the planet!”

Morons-


33 posted on 03/18/2009 3:20:56 PM PDT by Red6
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To: boxerblues

My garbage would end up on their lawn. Time to tea party those idiots.


34 posted on 03/18/2009 3:25:35 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: giotto

Why do we have recycling programs?

First, many people are sympathetic to the ‘landfill is evil’ concept.

Second, many people feel good sorting their trash because they THINK it is helping the environment.

Third, many conservatives have relented on this issue and do what they are told.

Fourth, recycling only makes sense if the revenue gained from the recycled matter exceeds the costs of separating/collecting it....of course recycling has NEVER exceeded the costs of collection alone (even if YOUR time sorting is calculated at $0 per hour).

Lastly, if recycling was profitable, it would not have to be MANDATED by gov’t.


35 posted on 03/18/2009 3:29:38 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Koblenz

Around here, the “recycled” glass is just ground up to produce ... sand.


36 posted on 03/18/2009 3:39:06 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: RobRoy

I thank the good Lord daily that I don’t live in a “neighborhood”. I save my trash for about 6 weeks and take it to the dump. Anything that will burn (paper, boxes, etc) goes in the burning barrel in the back yard. Yep, it’s legal to burn trash in a barrel here. We don’t have garbage pickup here so almost everybody takes trash to the landfill themselves. If you go on Saturday or Sunday it only costs $2 a load. Heck, we’ve only had city water for two years. We don’t have cable TV or high speed Internet. My Internet is satellite. You couldn’t pay me to live in a subdivision or other civilized neighborhood. :-)


37 posted on 03/18/2009 3:43:22 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: boxerblues

I got tired of the bozo goin’ through my recycle bin for aluminum cans. Now, I just flatten them out, and put them in extra garbage cans in the shed. Tomorrow, I go to the recycling place in Bedford, and get money for my three garbage cans full of flatso beer cans.


38 posted on 03/18/2009 3:46:03 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Koblenz

What’s with the pyrex?


39 posted on 03/18/2009 3:52:22 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New Obama Mantra, "Screw World Peace, I'll Buy You A Pony.")
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To: boxerblues
Lakewood known as the Gold Coast for its high GLBTS communities

Lakewood itself is not know as the Gold Coast. It's just "Lakewood." The section of luxury high rises right along the lake, which were built mostly in the 60s IIRC, is called the Gold Coast.

There are a number of mansions along there, too.

A steal at $1.8 million.

They are responsible for a lot of tax revenue. They are what give Lakewood its relatively high population density of almost 10,000 per square mile. GLBTS doesn't really have anything to do with the name, although there are a lot of them in Lakewood.

40 posted on 03/18/2009 4:14:59 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Publius Valerius
I am sure the residents of Lakewood, Ohio are quite thrilled at this development.

Not all of them. 9:15 am Palin rally in Lakewood. People went to work late and took their kids to the rally.

41 posted on 03/18/2009 4:26:49 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: boxerblues

Nothing wrong with this nation that recycling 50,000,000 Liberals wouldn’t cure.


42 posted on 03/18/2009 4:59:50 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: boxerblues
Well the article says that the city can stop trash collection, but I doubt they would allow the home owner to cancel it. Where would the city get its tax money from?

Charge an in lieu of fee, PLUS charge you tipping fees when you haul it in?

43 posted on 03/18/2009 5:03:01 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: boxerblues
Perhaps this post from last Monday is still relevant to this discussion. Monday, March 16, 2009 8:17:52 AM · 21 of 25 Irish Queen to BGHater

We moved from the Cenral Coast of California to Northern Nevada. One of the perks of living in rural Nevada is that our county does not have recyling. Hallelujah! No yellow, green, or blue bins. No more sorting! No more stinky fly attracting bins! Waste Management picks up everything in one giant container once a week.

My sister and her husband came from Southern California for visit.

After carrying their luggage into our guest room, my brother-in-law asked me to follow him out to their car. "These are for you."He handed me two white plastic bags. One bag contained empty plastic water bottles; the other bag held soda pop cans.

I flipped open the trash can lid.

My brother-in-law was horrified. "Stop! I saved these for you, for you recycle bins."

I laughed, "This is my one-and-only recycle bin--everything goes in here." He was shocked,"But, but, plastic and aluminum must be recycled."

"There is no curbside recyling in this county." I handed the bags back to him with a smile. Take the bags back home with you if you want to recycle them."

He dropped the bags into our large green trash can.

Just a note to those who by choice or law have and use recycle bins. Much of what you carefully sort into the appropriate bins is never actually recycled at all. Unless a company like Waste Management can make a profit selling the stuff, it is recyled right into the landfill.

44 posted on 03/18/2009 5:46:15 PM PDT by Irish Queen (Old time teacher 1968-2000)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I lived in Lakewood from 1981 to 1988. Very family oriented city, beautiful with 60-100 foot trees all over. Every house has a tree.

There were two streets of mansions: Lake and Clifton. Lake avenue mansions had their back yards to Lake Erie, about 100-200 feet from the road. Lakewood park would get you to the lake. That’s where the Sarah Palin rally was held, I’d guess.

I don’t know what has happened to the city that this stupid legislation passed. I’d guess it was slipped in as a “recycling bill” without anyone knowing about the $400 fine.


45 posted on 03/18/2009 5:59:55 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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I don’t know what has happened to the city that this stupid legislation passed. I’d guess it was slipped in as a “recycling bill” without anyone knowing about the $400 fine.

A lot of the core people moved to Westlake and then Avon Lake. The dems gave us Section 8 losers. Now there are a ton of foreclosures and houses selling for under $100k. Values are down 35% or more.

They claim they made money on recycling the last few years instead of paying to haul it to a landfill. Right now they are giving it away, but it's better than paying to landfill it.

46 posted on 03/18/2009 6:32:59 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: RobRoy

>>>Or the dumpster at the nearest apartment complex.

My brother-in-law was a pill. His dumpster of choice was a grocery store’s. He used to say he was going to St. Danny’s when he had to make a run. That’s probably why they are out of business—the high cost of their trash disposal.


47 posted on 03/18/2009 6:45:33 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Melinda in TN

Which is why I bought my 13 acres in rural central Kentucky last October. ;)

I now have a calf as well...


48 posted on 03/18/2009 6:51:17 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: boxerblues

“GLBTS”

If you’re too damn lazy to type out what you mean don’t post it!


49 posted on 03/18/2009 6:58:29 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: boxerblues
Flakewood, Ohio - gay capital of the region. It sits in very liberal Cuyahoga County, adjacent to Cleveland. If I were a resident of this oppressive suburb, I would go to great lengths to circumvent this ridiculous law.
50 posted on 03/18/2009 7:04:46 PM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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