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'Gay' adoption battle heats up in Florida
OneNewsNow ^ | 3/18/2009 5 | Charlie Butts

Posted on 03/19/2009 6:37:12 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K

The battle by homosexuals to legally adopt children has opened on another front in Florida.

Democratic State Senator Nan Rich, co-chair of the Senate Children, Families and Elder Affairs Committee, has filed a bill to repeal the 1977 law that bans homosexual adoption and a second bill to give judges the authority to determine adoptions based exclusively on what she calls the best interests the children. Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel disagrees with the measures.

"The actions here by Senator Nan Rich are clearly without merit, and she has the audacity to say that she is considering what is in the best interest of children. Well that defies logic, reason, and science," he contends. "Frankly the studies have shown clearly that it is in the best interest of children to have a mother and a father."

Barber believes he has discovered the Rich's true intentions. "What she and her homosexual activist supporters are considering is what is in the best interest of homosexual activists," he adds. "They are more concerned with their own selfish desires because they want to adopt children."

Liberty Counsel has a role in a case winding through the courts that would overturn the law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: adoption; courts; florida; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; pedophiles; perverts
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To: ElectricStrawberry
This kid in Russia never had and never WOULD have a "mom and dad" he would've either died in the orphanage from a disease like MDRTb or died in the streets......nobody is adopting these kids........YOU gonna step up and adopt a few thousand?? ONE??? Step up and do YOUR PART.

You create some anecdotal scenario and expect everyone to say how wonderful the homosexuals in question are for doing such a thing. I don't buy it even for a second.

Here's an anectodal scenario for you: a percentage of these kids who get purchased as trophies by homosexual couples are going to suffer sexual abuse from their parents. Are you willing to serve time in prison for helping to facilitate this abuse?

So, a heterosexual couple that adopts isn't "purchasing" kids to feel "fulfilled"??

There is no comparison between a husband and wife adopting a child and two homosexual deviants acquiring a child so they can play house. One follows the natural order of things, the other is a groteque parody of the natural order.
41 posted on 03/19/2009 12:17:08 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: wagglebee
What you say MIGHT be true except for one FACT:

There are more than enough heterosexual, married couples in America and Europe who are willing and financially able to adopt these children.

Bump.
42 posted on 03/19/2009 12:18:27 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Easy to say when you’re not a 4yo in a Russian orphanage.

If you really want to help, petition the government to make it easier and more affordable for normal families to adopt. This way, poor orphans wouldn't face a hideous situation that no child should ever be stuck with.
43 posted on 03/19/2009 12:19:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: wagglebee
There are more than enough heterosexual, married couples in America and Europe who are willing and financially able to adopt these children.

Yes, but to mention that would be just *devastating* to his argument....
44 posted on 03/19/2009 12:20:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: bill1952

Ummmmm.......since you have no clue about me, I’ll educate you so you won’t have to rant about manufactured nothing any more and can further limit your comments to bigotry that have nothing to do with making things up about me.

Went to Russia in 1997 to study deer ticks north of Vladivostok.

Went WITH the cousin TO the orphanage in question just outside Moscow to pick up the kid in question in April 2005.

...and I’ve been to Russia 3 other times (2000, 2001, 2002)....to the prisons these kids end up in, in a scientific capacity....to study the epidemiology of and collect samples of the MDRTb (now known as XDRTb) that kills petty thieves in their prisons because, well, it’s MDRTb/XDRTb.

So yeah.....you sure know something about me.....such “intellect” you have.


45 posted on 03/19/2009 12:20:56 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: eastsider

I know far too many couples who want to adopt and they don’t care about the child’s sex, race or anything else.

Obviously these children won’t all be raised in households that earn $500K+ a year, but neither are 99% of the children who are born here and they generally turn out just fine.


46 posted on 03/19/2009 12:25:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Antoninus

And his argument is nothing more than a supposition. I would be willing to bet that there are far more wealthy heterosexual, married couples who want to adopt than wealthy homosexual couples.


47 posted on 03/19/2009 12:27:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Antoninus
Normal families ARE NOT adopting these kids. It's not because "it's too expensive"...it's because they simply are not.

Pony up...put your money where your mouth is...adopt a few yourself...you know...so they won't end up with them homos.

By not adopting them, you're facililtating their entry into homosexual households, because they ARE getting into homosexual households right now (ding ding...there goes another one)......and ya know a percentage of homosexual households sexually abuse their adopted kids, just like a percentage of hetero households do.....are you willing to serve a prison term for facilitating the abuse?

48 posted on 03/19/2009 12:31:24 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: wagglebee

Then why are they not adopting them? Are they all talk? There is no obstacle in their way.


49 posted on 03/19/2009 12:35:52 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Normal families ARE NOT adopting these kids. It's not because "it's too expensive"...it's because they simply are not.

Provide proof or stuff it.
50 posted on 03/19/2009 12:36:01 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: gidget7
.......in this country.

...and you are correct.....IN THIS COUNTRY.

....but people in this country are not adopting these kids, despite all the talky-talky I've been hearing about willingness and financial ability to do so.

51 posted on 03/19/2009 12:37:43 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Then why are they not adopting them? Are they all talk? There is no obstacle in their way.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, they ARE adopting them. There is a lot of red tape to foreign adoptions and the process takes time.

52 posted on 03/19/2009 12:38:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Went WITH the cousin TO the orphanage in question just outside Moscow to pick up the kid in question in April 2005.

Sorry, but what you have provided is not proof. It's your own unverifiable claims.
53 posted on 03/19/2009 12:39:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

How many have you adopted? <~rhetorical


54 posted on 03/19/2009 12:40:56 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Antoninus

Just look at that iron chef cat cora. He and her “life partner” are pushing the fiction that they are married and are carying each other’s child. (probably a fake PR stunt but legally each is acting as the surrogate mother for the other)

On top of that DISNEY(!) is pushing a restaurant on their resort boardwalk branded with the cat cora. Just explain THAT to the children in the “family friendly” environment. (mommy where is the daddy for those children?)

We have pleanty of trolls here who think a child needs two of “whatever”. Every child has a mother and father.

They are attacking FL because it has one of the earliest and strongest homosexual adoption prohibitions. Also because FL by 62% passed a constitutional amendment prohibiting homosexual based marriage. They are trying to head off another constitutional amendment but this one on adoption.

Access to children via adoption is a seen as a sanction of normal sexual behavior of homosexuals. (eg see they are normal they are allowed to adopt children)


55 posted on 03/19/2009 12:46:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Antoninus
Proof: I stood in the orphanage in Russia and saw the 100 or so kids (ages 0-13.9) that people are not adopting, talked with the volunteers running the orphanage....and their policy is to kick 'em into the streets (well over 90% of 'em), uneducated, disease riddled, and malnurished. Prior to that, I stood in multiple Russian prisons where these kids end up and took Tb samples from former orphanage residents....teenagers that will die in prison for petty theft.

Not gonna put your money where your mouth is and take in a few???? THAT is the idealistic hypocrisy that keeps these kids in these crappy orphanages, puts them in the street, and leads them to prisons loaded with Tb....too much idealistic talky-talky, ZERO action. People not willing to put their $$$$$ where their unrealistic ideals lay.

Result....kids in Russia STILL get kicked out of Russian orphanages, end up in Russian prisons, contract Tb....and die.

Now KOREAN (and other Asian) kids.......American heteros LOVE to adopt THEM.

56 posted on 03/19/2009 12:47:35 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry; gidget7; DirtyHarryY2K; antonius

I’m curious, are you just on here to push homosexualism?

Because what you are talking about has NOTHING to do with the article posted. Whether or not the Russians, Chinese or any other foreign country allows homosexual Americans to adopt children is IRRELEVANT as we have no control whatsoever over their policies. Perhaps you should be talking to the RUSSIANS and not conservative Americans.


57 posted on 03/19/2009 12:48:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Joe Boucher

The legislators are against this.

The bills to change this have been killed each year.

BEHIND THE SCENES:

The lawyers of the family law section have been PERSONALLY working to allow for homosexuals to have acess to children via adoption.

They are the ones who have been pushing this court case BECAUSE THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY PROHIBITED FROM USING THE FLORIDA BAR LABEL in legislative lobbying.

This is in the courts and the FLORIDA BAR HAS SANCTIONED THESE HOMOSEUAL ACTIVISTS OF THE FLORIDA BAR in order overide the objections of the rank and file members.


58 posted on 03/19/2009 12:50:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Proof: I stood in the orphanage in Russia and saw the 100 or so kids (ages 0-13.9) that people are not adopting, talked with the volunteers running the orphanage....and their policy is to kick 'em into the streets (well over 90% of 'em), uneducated, disease riddled, and malnurished. Prior to that, I stood in multiple Russian prisons where these kids end up and took Tb samples from former orphanage residents....teenagers that will die in prison for petty theft.

Again, that's not proof. It's your unverifiable claim.

But this is all irrelevant to the question posed by this article. Not surprising as the purchase of children by rich homosexuals is something that's difficult to argue *for* unless you create absurd scenarios.

If the homosexuals procuring these children really had the kids' best interests at heart, they'd bring them to the US and help a willing heterosexual couple adopt them.
59 posted on 03/19/2009 12:55:10 PM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: Antoninus

see my article from the florida bar news.

The family law section was prohibited from lobbying this issue in the legislature and it died there.

The lawyers in the family law section have been pushing this homosexual access to children and snuck the amicus brief permission past without any publicity or opportunity to comment.

now there is an objection before the FL supreme court over using the “florida bar” name to promote this.


60 posted on 03/19/2009 1:03:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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