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Pawlenty wants Minnesota to test mileage tax
MPR ^ | 3-18-09 | tim nelson

Posted on 03/20/2009 3:35:28 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

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To: WOBBLY BOB

If every road is to be a toll road, why do we need the government to run them? Sell them off.


21 posted on 03/20/2009 3:54:39 PM PDT by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
...but who can object to a method which tries to take advantage of recently developed technology to closely match use of a public facility and payment for the maintenance of that facility?

Mileage can be tracked using annual odometer checks. Use of stretches roadway can be charged using FastPass type technology. But that's not good enough for these miserable demigods.

These Pols want to use GPS tracking to control and track our every movement - who we visit, where we shop, how fast we drive, where we park, what doctor we use, what political events we attend. This invasion of freedom and privacy must be stopped or we will learn to regret it.

Pawlenty will never get my vote in a national election, nor will anyone else who advocates GPS tracking of private vehicles.

22 posted on 03/20/2009 3:54:48 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The one party system has failed.


23 posted on 03/20/2009 3:55:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: EGPWS

I’ll send T-Paw this:

Global Warming Ranks Last Among Issues of Concern to Americans

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=42474


24 posted on 03/20/2009 3:56:13 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

First Sanford and his stupid statements and now Pawlenty? Wow, the field is already narrowing for 2012.


25 posted on 03/20/2009 3:56:26 PM PDT by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: RochesterFan

Enough “conservatives” stayed home rather than vote for McCain, and look what we’ve got...Obama and company.

Has a friend, relative, spouse ever did something you didn’t like? Of course. We should steer the ship rather than abandon it. Democracy has no autopilot. The Founding Fathers never intended that we stop paying attention after we cast our ballot. Even the Founding Fathers had disagreements.


26 posted on 03/20/2009 3:56:46 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

No wonder the Republicans are in trouble. With people like this guy calling themselves Republicans it is a wonder that they can even find their way to work each day. Guess it must be the “perks”.


27 posted on 03/20/2009 3:56:51 PM PDT by mulligan (A)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

These people are a bunch of idiots.

Just raise the fricking gas tax.

Having said that, IMHO, this has nothing to do with gas taxes and everything to do with monitoring our every move. 1984.


28 posted on 03/20/2009 3:57:05 PM PDT by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: B Knotts

that would mean a loss of gubermint union thug jobs


29 posted on 03/20/2009 3:58:20 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Rino-itis. I can forget this turd in two seconds.

What was his name?


30 posted on 03/20/2009 3:59:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I don’t trust any administration with GPS in our cars not using it to track us.

Don't be gettin' paranoid.

After all, if government were to tote such idea's they could always renege on the privacy of social security identification guarantee's and they haven't done THAT yet....

31 posted on 03/20/2009 4:00:46 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

To bad we cant tax goobermint


32 posted on 03/20/2009 4:01:33 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: indylindy
What was his name?

Willy B. Genuine.

33 posted on 03/20/2009 4:02:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Of course, they will then eliminate the fuel tax and get rid of tolls.


34 posted on 03/20/2009 4:03:13 PM PDT by Jay Thomas (A DUmmie I ain't)
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To: EGPWS

nope, never. *sigh*


35 posted on 03/20/2009 4:06:35 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Jay Thomas
Of course, they will then eliminate the fuel tax and get rid of tolls.

Silly me I thought Minnesota was topic of conversation.

This post J.T. has proved me wrong.

36 posted on 03/20/2009 4:06:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
but who can object to a method which tries to take advantage of recently developed technology to closely match use of a public facility and payment for the maintenance of that facility?

The real goal of the government is to get vehicle location tracking data. They really want that for law enforcement, spying on citizens, etc. Assessing a tax based on fuel has the side effect of rewarding people who have high mileage vehicles, and penalizing those whose use of fuel is less efficient. That should be something liberal politicians want - since it would encourage people to conserve fuel, emit less CO2, etc.

By contrast, a tax based on mileage driven doesn't encourage anyone to buy a more fuel efficient car.

What the govt. really wants is an RFID tag on your car, and maybe even a GPS tracker so it can figure out where you are driving, and when you pass particular locations. Think how much money could be made with automatic speeding ticket generation.

37 posted on 03/20/2009 4:09:22 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Do you really want the .gov tracking your vehicle 24/7? This is an excuse to track people. Squeezing more money out of them is just icing on the cake.


38 posted on 03/20/2009 4:09:32 PM PDT by kamikaze2000
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To: mysterio
The one party system has failed [us voters].
39 posted on 03/20/2009 4:10:41 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Uh, maybe people who beleive the government exists to serve the populace and not the other way around. Are you sure you are on the right forum?

Minnesota has one of the most complex tax codes in the country and one of the largest RINOs running the state. For some reason, they always manage to spend more than allocated — no matter how much money the state brings in.

Do you really think more money will solve the problem? Let's see: Vehicle Sales Tax, Driver's license fees, CDL license tax, Gasoline Tax, Diesel Fuel Tax, User's Tax, User's Use Tax (commercial fuel), Vehicle License & Registration Tax, Trailer Registration Tax, and let's not forget indirect taxation such as Traffic Fines, Recreational Vehicle Tax, Watercraft Registration Taxes, Environmental Compliance Taxes, Property Tax, Sales Taxes, Utility Taxes,Excise Tax and I am sure there a few I have forgotten. Oh and lets not forget that a major percentage of all "transportation" tax goes to "public" transport projects (metro buses and metro light rail.) Why don't you move to Minnesota!

40 posted on 03/20/2009 4:13:22 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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