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The Permian Extinction: Good Science, Bad Assumptions
ICR ^ | March 21, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 03/21/2009 1:02:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The Permian Extinction: Good Science, Bad Assumptions

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

Ninety percent of marine and 70 percent of terrestrial creatures perished suddenly in an event variously called the Permian extinction, the Permian–Triassic (P-Tr) extinction, or the Great Dying. The calamity’s cause, referred to as the K-T event, remains unknown, even though asteroid impact has been in vogue.

At least, this is the account that has been repeated for several decades. Now, a recently-published study is showing that evidence of the Permian extinction is not limited to a single rock stratum.1 The whole story must be rewritten...

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; junkscience; oldearthspeculation; permianextinction; theskyisfalling; waronfaith
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1 posted on 03/21/2009 1:02:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Finny; vladimir998; Coyoteman; allmendream; LeGrande; GunRunner; cacoethes_resipisco; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/21/2009 1:03:44 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m gonna go with asteroid on this one. Second choice is global warming.


3 posted on 03/21/2009 1:06:31 PM PDT by exist
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To: exist

==I’m gonna go with asteroid on this one. Second choice is global warming.

Why not a global flood?


4 posted on 03/21/2009 1:11:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
==I’m gonna go with asteroid on this one. Second choice is global warming. Why not a global flood?

1. Asteroid.
2. Global Warming.
3. Great Flood.
4. Lack of Regulation.

5 posted on 03/21/2009 1:12:48 PM PDT by exist
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To: GodGunsGuts

They had it right the first time. The k-t event was the cretaceous-tertiary and is a different extention event than the Permiam-Triassic. The k-t was 65ma and ended the reign of the dinos.


6 posted on 03/21/2009 1:15:30 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: ruiner

Oh, after reading the source it is apparent why they don’t distinguish between events that occurred almost 200ma apart.


7 posted on 03/21/2009 1:17:04 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: ruiner

Oh, after reading the source it is apparent why they don’t distinguish between events that occurred almost 200ma apart.


8 posted on 03/21/2009 1:17:32 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: GodGunsGuts
Why not a global flood?

"Ninety percent of marine and 70 percent of terrestrial creatures perished suddenly"

Marine creatures would have survived, and land critters would have died.

This killed plenty of both, indeed even more marine creatures than land creatures died. This is opposite of what anyone who thinks it through would expect from a flood.

9 posted on 03/21/2009 1:18:38 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: exist

Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on earth. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible’s accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

For more, plus very interesting table (a little further down), see:

http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html


10 posted on 03/21/2009 1:24:30 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.

So does New Orleans.

11 posted on 03/21/2009 1:28:58 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

The Flood was so violent and so much more massive than most conceive of, let alone accept, that the sudden burial of sea creatures beneath muddy waves of gargantuan proportions is nearly impossible to understand unless one understands the dynamics of the Flood.


12 posted on 03/21/2009 1:32:35 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: GodGunsGuts; null and void

Isn’t the Chinese pictograph for “flood” a boat (or vessel) plus the symbol for eight people (literally “mouths”)?


13 posted on 03/21/2009 1:35:51 PM PDT by Cedric
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So, a world wide flood is the only possible explanation of mass death?

Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed in a flood?

I pity one who worships an all powerful God, while blandly insisting that he can only function in one narrowly defined way...

14 posted on 03/21/2009 1:37:59 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Cedric; chinaboy

Dunno. I only know a few characters.

Let me ping a native speaker...


15 posted on 03/21/2009 1:39:24 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

==So does New Orleans

Not just flood stories, but flood stories that closely match the biblical flood story, complete with warning from God, ark, global flood, etc.


16 posted on 03/21/2009 1:40:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Oh, come on now! New Orleans was warned by NOAA!


17 posted on 03/21/2009 1:44:10 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Cedric; null and void
"The Flood was so violent and so much more massive than most conceive of, let alone accept"

That's so true - don't mess with hydraulics! Drive a Prius through 3 - 4" of fast moving water and see what happens...

18 posted on 03/21/2009 1:48:02 PM PDT by uncommonsense
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To: Cedric

I have no idea. If you have a link for that, it would be most appreciated!


19 posted on 03/21/2009 1:48:53 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: uncommonsense
Drive a Prius through 3 - 4" of fast moving water and see what happens...

You get it in the shorts?

20 posted on 03/21/2009 1:48:59 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 61 of our national holiday from reality.)
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