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Who would of thought this would ever be considered?
1 posted on 03/23/2009 7:46:05 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: TPluth

Personal protection is an insufficient reason to have a CCW, according to the Sacramento County Sheriff. What a surprise. Chiefs and Sheriffs don’t want us carrying.


2 posted on 03/23/2009 7:49:59 AM PDT by hoppity
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To: TPluth

California, going “shall issue”? Whodathunkit?


3 posted on 03/23/2009 7:50:22 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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Who would of thought this would ever be considered?

Considered, sure. Passed into law? Good luck.

4 posted on 03/23/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: TPluth

It’s a “shall issue” bill.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 7:51:24 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Security sucks. I want my freedom back.)
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"Personal protection is insufficient," McGinness said.

Idiot. Personal protection is paramount.
6 posted on 03/23/2009 7:55:23 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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Californians with personal responsibility. What a concept. You can bet the terminator will veto this one if he gets a chance. Hitler didn’t like armed citizens out of uniform.


7 posted on 03/23/2009 7:56:35 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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"Both McGinness and Reed said that in their counties, simply wanting to carry a concealed weapon isn't good-enough cause."

So when are the local law enforcement officers going to be turning their firearms in?
10 posted on 03/23/2009 8:00:12 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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You should NEVER have to asl permisdsion, to exercise a RIGHT!


12 posted on 03/23/2009 8:04:26 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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If the changes proposed by the bill were already in effect, even O.J. Simpson would have been eligible for a concealed weapons permit in California – prior to his recent felony conviction in Nevada, McGinness said.

Whew!

Good point there.

I can just imagine what O.J. could have done in the past if he were able to carry a pistol.

I have visions of death and mayhem.

Thank God it's only a vision.

13 posted on 03/23/2009 8:10:54 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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I betcha the Governator vetos any statewide shall issue laws.


14 posted on 03/23/2009 8:16:17 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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"Personal protection is insufficient," McGinness said.

In other words, The lives of every Californian is not worth giving up control over the ability to deny carry permits to law abiding citizens.

Make no mistake about it. It is not about guns. It is about control.

19 posted on 03/23/2009 8:36:15 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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My eyes must not be working properly today. I could have sworn I read that an easing on obtaining a CCW in CA is being proposed!!! Did the world just turn upside down?


23 posted on 03/23/2009 8:51:54 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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My 82-year-old mom and 89-year-old stepdad both carry. Both aced their targeting tests two weeks ago when renewing. God bless both of them!!


25 posted on 03/23/2009 9:25:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Christian and armed)
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Politics does create strange bedfellows.


27 posted on 03/23/2009 9:57:28 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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There have been “shall issue” bills before and this one will most likely be DOA like the rest of them.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0351-0400/ab_357_bill_20090219_introduced.html

They have not struck out the good cause portion in the entirety of the bill and here always is the good moral character loop hole.

This bill is in its infancy and needs quite a bit more tightening up. It still is a glimmer of hope but I will believe it when I see its on governors desk


30 posted on 03/23/2009 10:17:19 AM PDT by Polynikes
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But it's not like she's looking for a showdown, she said. Still, in an emergency, she said she'd like to know that her .45 is close at hand..."I have a fire extinguisher under my sink for the same reason," she said.

Nicely put. And I have a stock answer for the law enforcement administrators who seem chronically afraid of an armed public: "You're fired."

34 posted on 03/23/2009 10:26:46 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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California


44 posted on 03/23/2009 11:38:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Among supporters of Knight's bill is Deanna Sykes, co-founder of the Sacramento chapter of Pink Pistols, an international group that advocates gun ownership by gays and lesbians. Their slogan: "Armed gays don't get bashed."

Now this is a new twist on gay rights and the 2nd ammendment. The gay lobby just might be the ones to get this bill passed.


48 posted on 03/23/2009 2:27:18 PM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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I hope it survives and thrives, but California tends to be quite a bit zany when it comes to preserving pertinent individual freedoms.


50 posted on 03/23/2009 2:34:33 PM PDT by Patriot777 (guns, freedom, law, California)
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Shall Issue in California? Dream on... the odds of it happening are slim to none.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

54 posted on 03/23/2009 8:43:00 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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