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Massacre kills 12 at immigration center in NY
Breitbart ^ | 4/3/09 | William Kates

Posted on 04/03/2009 1:17:14 PM PDT by NYC Republican

A gunman opened fire at an immigration services center in downtown Binghamton on Friday, killing as many as 13 people before authorities found him dead, officials said. Gov. David Paterson said at a news conference that 12 or 13 people had been killed.

A law enforcement official said the body of the man believed to be the gunman was found in an office of the American Civic Association building. The official was not authorized to speak publicly about the details of an ongoing hostage situation and was talking on condition of anonymity.

The gunman barricaded the rear door of the building with his car before entering through the front door, firing his weapon, the official said.

It wasn't clear whether the gunman was included in the number of dead provided by the governor.

The Binghamton Press & Sun Bulletin reported that citizenship classes had been scheduled Friday at the center.

The Binghamton SWAT team responded, and the FBI was sending hostage negotiators and an evidence response team to the scene. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was also sending agents to Binghamton

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; binghamton; massshooting
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To: skeeter
"But why go after immigrants?"

Maybe he was fired from IBM because his work papers had expired or weren't in order. Or was he a citizen? I hadn't heard that he was or wasn't. I thought IBM was laying people off. I wonder if there was a problem with him being here legally and that's why he went there.

41 posted on 04/03/2009 1:59:24 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: skeeter
But why go after immigrants?

Right now there is a populist backlash growing within IBM because it is believed that IBM is getting rid of US employees and sending their jobs offshore.

This may be a case of a populist backlash actually leading to violence. Maybe this will take the starch out of some of the folks who are using populism to further their egenda...because by doing so they are creating hate.

42 posted on 04/03/2009 1:59:38 PM PDT by NRG1973
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To: GinaLolaB
Think of it as a CEO coming into a company they see as failing, clearing out the old management and bringing in their own people.

They see the US as a failure and are seeking to remake it. Unfortunately, there are dramatic consequences to this kind of social engineering, as is possibly the case here.

43 posted on 04/03/2009 2:01:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: NYC Republican
If one person in the building had been armed it would not have happened.
44 posted on 04/03/2009 2:01:21 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: NYC Republican

As I watched the live coverage of this at noon central today, the obvious solution to so many of these shooting sprees again came to mind,,,,one good decent armed citizen could have taken that killer out, just one good man or woman with a concealed carry weapon could have saved all or most of those lost innocent lives. Those poor souls were sitting ducks, as all gun toting criminalsl know, easy pickings for killers. We all know the solution, yet the governments of most states will not stop persecuting law abiding gun owners who want to be able to legally conceal carry. One good armed citizen in there, would have kept those innocent souls on earth, now they are gone. The press will vilify the gun. They should vilify the liberal gun grabbers who make only the criminals safe, and the innocent as lambs at the slaughter. Prayers for all the victim’s families and friends. What a horrible horrible crime.


45 posted on 04/03/2009 2:02:45 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." George Washington)
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To: NYC Republican

THIS is why I don’t get the whole terrorist business. This is ONE guy and look what he could do. We all know it is very feasible to have hundreds of these same type who have gotten in this country across southern or northern borders.

Yet we see nothing....except video of them running around in the desert playing bad guys.

Not only that...a martyr is a martyr. Infect one with something biological and let them go shopping in a big mall in a big city.

Yet we see nothing.

WHAT are they waiting for and WHO is pushing their buttons?
I just don’t get the logic of it.


46 posted on 04/03/2009 2:07:35 PM PDT by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Early reports indicate that it took the cops an hour to respond to assist the victims in ANOTHER GUN-FREE ZONE!
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BUT, ACCORDING TO DIANE FINESWINE, BABS BOXER, CHUCKY SCHUMER, ET AL – OOOOO – GUNS ARE SOOOO DANGEROUS!! In what may be a perverse form of population control, these MORONS – many of whom are themselves armed or have armed people around them -- would prefer us to have to call 911 – and DIE while the cops are en-route.

WHY THEY WANT OUR GUNS!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


47 posted on 04/03/2009 2:08:03 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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According to the latest news, the suspect was a fired IBM worker. He killed people taking citizenship classes.

IBM uses H-1B visas.

Coincidence??? Or just a nut job???


48 posted on 04/03/2009 2:32:01 PM PDT by ak267
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To: skeeter
In Utica we have muslims from everywhere. Bosnia, Samalia, Iraq. We have thousands of Burmese Karins and thousands of Russians. When the Bosnians first got here (after they were on Welfare for awhile), they were given the few factory jobs that were left in Utica. The American workers were actually fired for the Bosnians because the US government subsidized the jobs for immigrants.

Recently, I was talking to a Russian immigrant woman and she was telling me that her husband was given an engineering job and was building a beautiful new home on 10 acres of land. Must be nice to have government put its arms around you.

49 posted on 04/03/2009 2:40:26 PM PDT by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: dirtymac

Post #12 LOLOL


50 posted on 04/03/2009 2:44:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: libstripper

Proper name was Linh Phat Voong. He was Vietnamese.


51 posted on 04/03/2009 2:52:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: GinaLolaB
IBM is taking mucho heat for laying off services folks and moving the jobs to India, while at the same time asking for $30M in stimulus money.

They are also in the market (supposedly) to buy the biggest India outsourcing company, so that would give them political cover for moving ALL services jobs to India, China, or wherever they can get someone to show up for ~1/6th of what a US employee is paid.

They have freely admitted that they do not want to be identified as a US company. They are an "international concern", which means they want to suck every dollar/rupee/pound/franc or whatever out of every government they can.

TJ and TJ Jr are probably both rolling in their graves.

52 posted on 04/03/2009 2:59:37 PM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: libstripper

All I could think was - oh, thank God it’s not a white guy doing this.


53 posted on 04/03/2009 3:04:06 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Natural Law

“It seems that they will only kick in the door and shoot you and your dog if they believe that you are not a threat to them.”

Well, if you go in something bad might happen, remember California.


54 posted on 04/03/2009 3:04:54 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (I'm studying Voodoo...curses cast daily. Landrieu be gone to the devil...)
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To: GinaLolaB

“The American workers were actually fired for the Bosnians because the US government subsidized the jobs for immigrants.”

This may have been the first shot fired in the revolution.


55 posted on 04/03/2009 3:08:55 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (I'm studying Voodoo...curses cast daily. Landrieu be gone to the devil...)
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To: George from New England
"I know this was a gun free zone but do we really want those inside to be armed? Liberals, Gov’t workers, social workers, illegals. I don’t think guns in this case in that building would have helped."

Dude, are you kidding me?? An armed security guard or extra detailed LEO would be perfect in that environment. These assclowns only attack areas where they know the citizens will be unarmed. Gun Free Zones= Victim Rich Environments!

56 posted on 04/03/2009 3:20:42 PM PDT by Seamus Mc Gillicuddy (Great minds discuss ideas, medium minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.)
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To: LdSentinal

I remember seeing a spurt of articles about a week ago about IBM layoffs and outsourcing concerns.


57 posted on 04/03/2009 3:24:58 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: NYC Republican

Prayers/


58 posted on 04/03/2009 3:25:18 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: NYC Republican

Holder: This is why we must take your guns....


59 posted on 04/03/2009 3:29:20 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
When will they learn?

Some of them learned the hard way last week in Oakland.

60 posted on 04/03/2009 3:53:13 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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