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Iowa, Same Sex Marriage and the 2012 Presidential Race [Romney comments on marriage]
The Washington Post - The Fix ^ | 2009-04-04 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 04/04/2009 11:52:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

The decision today by the Iowa Supreme Court that ruled a ban on same-sex marriage in the Hawkeye State unconstitutional is certain to have an impact on the state's critical Republican presidential caucuses in 2012.

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Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who ran unsuccessfully for the nomination in 2008 and is an almost-certain candidate in 2012, did offer a comment on the decision when asked by the Fix.

"I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman and the definition of marriage should be left to the people and not to activist courts," Romney said.

Romney struggled to convince social conservatives of his bona fides during the 2008 campaign due to his past statements in support of gay rights. He is making sure there is no such uncertainty in the minds of social conservatives next time around.

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; 2012rncplatform; culturewars; fakeconservatives; flipflop; homosexualagenda; ia2012; marriage; mcromney; mittromney; rino; rinoalert; rinoalertrinoparty; rinoparty; rinoromney; romney; romneytruthfile; samesexmarriage; slickwillard; willard
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1 posted on 04/04/2009 11:52:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: big'ol_freeper; mountainbunny; DirtyHarryY2K; rabscuttle385

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2 posted on 04/04/2009 11:53:06 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
next time around

That's really all the Romneybots have. "Next time around" he'll maybe win. "Next time around" he'll maybe be Conservative. Or not.

3 posted on 04/04/2009 11:55:33 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m so danged annoyed! First I had to re-register Republicken in order to vote Republicken in our first CA early primary, but already by that time all the viable conservatives had either dropped, or were hopelessly behind the curve. So we voted for Romney with gobs of rationalizations running through our minds and stubbornly refusing to vote for Juan McLame, or to sit out the election.


4 posted on 04/04/2009 11:59:29 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Counterfeit marriage for homosexuals is alive and well in Mass., Mr. Romney.


5 posted on 04/04/2009 11:59:48 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: rabscuttle385
screw him and his hair cult amongst republican women....

this man is not a conservative. He is the ultimate RINO. More of a RINO than McQueeg (who is more of a Democrat).

6 posted on 04/04/2009 11:59:57 AM PDT by Vaquero (This is coming to a head....this pimple needs a poppin')
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To: rabscuttle385
Time to move past Romney as a serious conservative candidate I can support.

Just a sampling of the neo-Statist Mitt Romney just this week....

Romney Lets His Conservative Mask Slip

Romney breaks with GOP on the issue of deregulation [and immigration reform]

Romney strikes bipartisan tone at GOP fundraiser (praises Obama)

Romney: Don't root for Obama to fail

Romney backs Obama auto decision, praising 'backbone'

A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]

7 posted on 04/04/2009 12:01:47 PM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: rabscuttle385
"I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman and the definition of marriage should be left to the people and not to activist courts," Romney said.

Mr. Romney, the definition of marriage was defined by God in the beginning.

Saying it should be defined by people is pandering to homosexuals.

8 posted on 04/04/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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To: SolidWood

Wasn’t he cheerleading TARP? ANd wasn’t he the fastest draw when the schoolmarm debate moderator asked who believed globull warming to be a serious problem?


9 posted on 04/04/2009 12:05:40 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Vaquero

The trouble with Republicans is that they spend so much time telling us who they are against, there is no energy left to build up who they are for. As a result the MSM does that for them.


10 posted on 04/04/2009 12:07:52 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney was against abortion til he wanted office in Taxachusetts...then he was for it...then when he wanted the GOP nomination...he was against it.

How can anyone trust this guy?


11 posted on 04/04/2009 12:35:13 PM PDT by kjo
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To: broncobilly
The trouble with Republicans is that they spend so much time telling us who they are against, there is no energy left to build up who they are for.

That is completely out of the liberal media mantra.

The problem with the GOP is that they have lost their soul and will accept any candidate with a heartbeat regardless of their lack of conservative bonafides. The party is infested with moderates and their idiot sycophants who are more than willing to stab the base in the back to win election.

Until the party rejects RINOs like Romney, and drives out their limp-wristed sycophants, it is a dead party.

12 posted on 04/04/2009 12:42:17 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("From hell's heart I stab at thee... I spit my last breath at thee." ~ Khan Noonien Singh)
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To: MaestroLC

“Just a sampling of the neo-Statist Mitt Romney just this week....”

Sure. After all, if the MSM prints it, it must be true. /s


13 posted on 04/04/2009 12:52:32 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Syncro
Here here, Syncro!

Marriage IS a man and a woman, united for life. That is the reality, that IS WHAT IT IS. No matter what anyone believes. Your belief Mr. Romney, noes not enter into anything, reality does. You can call a horse a cow, believe it's a cow or not believe it's a cow, it it still a horse! Likewise an apple is not an orange no matter what anyone “believes” it to be, blue is not yellow, no matter what anyone “believes” it to be. AND a man is not a woman and vise versa, no matter how many operations they have to change it, no matter what anyone “believes” they are. Facts are facts, reality is reality, and words have meaning.

There really is no debate here.

14 posted on 04/04/2009 1:10:02 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: big'ol_freeper
That is completely out of the liberal media mantra

I'll tell you what is completely out of the liberal mantra:

Get the Republicans fighting and criticizing among themselves so they are so occupied they fail to build up a viable candidate. Tell the Republicans no one is perfect enough for them. Whomever the Republicans don't destroy by themselves, the MSM will undermine the rest. Then a few of the faithful democrats can cross over and nominate some liberal Republican that the rest of the Republicans find hard to support.

It is a sure fire strategy for destroying the Republicans. It lets the super critical Republicans do most of the work for them.

15 posted on 04/04/2009 1:14:51 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: rabscuttle385

The Constitution protects individuals; not relationships.


16 posted on 04/04/2009 1:49:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: gidget7

Yup.


17 posted on 04/04/2009 2:04:03 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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To: gidget7; Syncro
That is the reality, that IS WHAT IT IS.

Marriage is, by definition, an exclusivity contract, moral, social, and legal, between one man and one woman, of legal majority, that carries certain pre-defined and legally sanctioned rights and responsibilities for both parties.

"Marriage" that does not involve one man and one woman, no more and no less, is not marriage at all. It's something entirely different.

18 posted on 04/04/2009 2:18:08 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
Correct.

And Romney is saying that “the definition of marriage should be left to the people”

You are right, Romney is wrong.

19 posted on 04/04/2009 2:24:29 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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To: broncobilly
You're right. This stuff is straight out of Alinsky 101. Being that the election is still quite aways off, I wonder why all the Romney threads lately? Largely by the same few folks. Hmmmmmm. Of course, their take on these MSM articles also makes one go hmmmmmm.

Every time I see one of these threads, I keep hearkening back to the ole’ gipper:

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.“ Ronald Reagan,

And these guys wonder why conservatives aren't getting elected.

20 posted on 04/04/2009 3:18:37 PM PDT by Reno232
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