Posted on 04/05/2009 4:36:51 PM PDT by ChrisInAR
What do you talk about at lunch with Tom Tancredo? I thought I knew, but to my surprise (and relief), we spent much of the hour discussing the wisdom of legalizing drugs rather than rehashing our disagreements over illegal immigrants.
"The status quo isn't working," Tancredo says, meaning the war on drugs has failed — spectacularly. And while that's hardly a novel insight, most people who reach it don't take the next step of questioning the drug war itself.
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Not at all. Greece and Rome were our forefathers on those fronts.
Care to come up with a real example?
Mexico does not produce cocaine and they only produce a small amount of heroin. They do, however, buy cocaine from South America and smuggle it into this country and distribute it. The government estimates that Mexicans smuggle in and distributed about 90% of the cocaine consumed in this country and more than 80% of the meth and heroin. They already supply most all the demand for these drugs in this country, so they can't exactly just switch to selling these drugs if we take marijuana from them. There's not much upside left in the market for those drugs.
JOIN THE TEA PARTY.
Do you think the states should be the ones to decide such policies, or should it be fedgov, in your opinion?
Tsk, Tsk. Wouldn’t it be better to refer to it as deleting from the society, or something else a little more nuanced?
Remember, we musn’t offend anyone.
Let me put it this way. I would be for allowing either the Federal government or the States (ideally the States) to institute their own drug policy under the condition that no federal monies would go to any sort of welfare or medical aid for the abusers and the States would have to implement a torture penalty and use it, along with considering all crimes done by those on such controlled substances as being premeditated.
This way, those who willingly kill or maim others will never again have the opportunity to do so, and the torture for those who don't get capital punishment will help encourage those who continue to take drugs to straighten up.
Lets See
The status quo isn’t working,” Tancredo says, meaning the war on drugs has failed
So the same can be said for the millions of illegals coming into the U.S. for the past many years.
So Tancredo must be for leagalizing the illegals already in the U.S.
Same argument
We can't even keep drugs out of our prisons. That being the case, how much freedom do we need to give up to become a drug-free society?
Do you think the Constitution delegates such authority to fedgov under the Commerce Clause? Or do you think the states have this authority under the Tenth Amendment?
thanks, bfl
Freedom, deal with it.
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“The status quo isn’t working,” Tancredo says, meaning the war on drugs has failed
So the same can be said for the millions of illegals coming into the U.S. for the past many years.
So Tancredo must be for leagalizing the illegals already in the U.S.”
YUP. Good analogy.
Amnesty is not the solution to illegal immigration, its a surrender to it.
Legalization is not the solution to illegal drug use, its a surrender to it.
Especially to our rights..
I know what you mean.. This one of my big beef with Ronald Reagan.. I think a little to far with the WOD...
Tancredo must have been hanging around with Ron Paul too much.
No. Hanging around potheads (in my past) tells me a lot more. Potheads are impossible to have a rational conversation with.
I guess you missed his point. They will BEGIN to produce those drugs once the market for pot had dried up.
There are very few places in the world where coca will grow, Mexico is not one of them. Almost all coca is grown in the mountains of Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru. They can grow poppies to make heroin in some parts of Mexico, but their yields aren't very good so they buy most of it from other places that are much more suitable for opium poppies. Their marijuana yields are pretty good. They're getting 1,200 kilos per hectare on average, a little over a thousand pounds of dried bud per acre. They now produce more marijuana than any other country in the world. They also produce most of the methamphetamine consumed here, which they don't have to grow. Without marijuana, they'll keep producing meth and just continue to import most of the cocaine and heroin to smuggle and sell here. They get it pretty cheap and after they smuggle it and get it to the towns where it will be distributed it is worth several times what they paid for it. But, total demand for all cocaine, meth and heroin consumed in this country is only in the hundreds of tons compared to many thousand tons of marijuana. Far more marijuana is consumed here than all other illegal drugs combined. They make most of their money from marijuana sales, and they aren't going to be able to increase their returns from these other drugs much because they are already satisfying almost all of the demand for them.
Sold his soul to Slick Willard. He needs to go away.
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