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FBI InfraGard warns of a crescendo of public concern about Obama's eligibility
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Posted on 04/06/2009 4:21:03 PM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: cycle of discernment
Wouldn't it be nice if the US Justice Department actually looked into the matter and determined whether Mr. Obama meets the constitutional requirement to hold the office of POTUS?
121 posted on 04/06/2009 8:18:26 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: pissant
Damn right!

"If Mr. Obama fights revealing his documentation, there is growing concern of civil unrest, or worse, being unleashed in the streets of our nation. The economic crisis coupled with this type of a constitutional crisis could prove to be a flashpoint that would test conventional law enforcement and elements of homeland security."

So the FBI would prefer that Obama's LIES, FRAUD, DISTORTIONS, MANIPULATIONS and DECEPTIONS about his background remain a secret for the sake of "crisis prevention?"

Hey FBI! Go play in traffic, you worthless POS organization!

122 posted on 04/06/2009 8:21:02 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: LucyT
FBI InfraGard warns of a crescendo of public concern about Obama's eligibility

I thought crescendos happened when the noise peaked? I haven't heard much of anything about this on ABCCBSNBCCNNMSNBC.... When Crissy Mathews is howling for Obama to step down, then, I'll start to panic...

123 posted on 04/06/2009 8:22:01 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Red Steel
as potentially harmful to civil order and national security,

Wow! This sort of describes the $4 trillion dollar deficit these folks have just foisted on the American Public. Maybe they should send those 80,000 troops to Washington and surround it until the birth certificate shows up????

125 posted on 04/06/2009 8:23:51 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: pissant

If even a Wiccan dude is that unimpressed,you might want to take a second look at who is doing what to whom....and why.


126 posted on 04/06/2009 8:24:16 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: Candor7
IT IS NOT AN INSURRECTION. IT IS THE PEOPLE DEFENDING AND UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES that the government and its agencies , including the FBI, failed in their duty to do.

I agree. Hard to see an insurrection in a bunch of citizens demanding that the supreme law of the land be followed!

127 posted on 04/06/2009 8:25:44 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: SonOfPyrodex
The United States has 90 guns for every 100 citizens

This number can't be right. Heck, I own that many myself!!!

128 posted on 04/06/2009 8:26:59 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: mrmeangenes

Wiccan dude also has a bone to pick with the guy, who wrote a very negative book about satanism.


129 posted on 04/06/2009 8:27:31 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: cycle of discernment

I’d have to see a copy or the source for this document before I got too excited.


130 posted on 04/06/2009 8:27:47 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

“600,000 armed government agents. 60,000,000 gun owners.”

So to rephrase that old Door’s song : “We’ve got the guns AND we’ve got the numbers.”

I was just listening to some early 70’s songs. Lots of those protest songs have lyrics that fit the situation once again.


131 posted on 04/06/2009 8:30:46 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: STARWISE

hmmmm...thanks for the ping. Read through all the posts and it looks like some noobies are trying to discredit it. Don’t have time to research it tonight, but what’s the verdict on the source for this report?

It all sounds perfectly plausible to me. There is a growing unease in this country about Obama and it could spiral out of control. The interesting thing is that Obama himself could put all of this to bed by proving once and for all that he is eligible. He apparently doesn’t care if this country erupts into violence and chaos. As a matter of fact, it might be just what he is hoping for to bring his ‘change’ through hopelessness. I found the article at Orley’s site by Pam Gellor(Atlas Shrugs)very good and a must read for every FReeper.


132 posted on 04/06/2009 8:39:37 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: cycle of discernment

If FBI is so concerned, then someone produce obozo’s legitimate birth certificate. If not then remove him from office. He’s done enough damage to the country.


133 posted on 04/06/2009 8:40:44 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Montana_Gal

Actually, for the POTUS, there never has been a formal background investigation. That’s because is was always informally handled by the respective Parties at the urging of Congress.

The only “official” policy I find on Security Clearances in Gov’t, which include employees, are E.O.’s 12958 (Clinton 1995) and 13292 (Bush 2003)

However, these E.O.’s both refer to the Security Policy Board, which Bush abolished in Feb of 2001, which is referred to as National Security Presidential Directive 1.

For members of Congress and their staff...
Atomic energy “Restricted Data” (42 U.S.C. 2162-2168) and “intelligence sources and methods” (50 U.S.C. 403(d)(3)) —
is specified in statute and subsequent rules issued, respectively, by the Department of Energy and Director of National Intelligence.

Other controlled information — such as “sensitive security”
and “sensitive but unclassified” information — is determined largely by executive directives.

Basically, the POTUS establishes a need for a requirement of a National Security Clearance, and delegates to the National Security Board (NSA) to determine the level and the prerequisites.

Congress is actually charged with regulating, by on the record inference, the suitability of the POTUS.


134 posted on 04/06/2009 8:44:10 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: SonOfPyrodex

Amen!


135 posted on 04/06/2009 8:46:08 PM PDT by unkus
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To: mrmeangenes; STARWISE; All

Apparently, Robert Mueller thinks alot of Infraguard. Video link here:

http://www.infragard.net/media/director_flash.php?mn=1&sm=1-1


136 posted on 04/06/2009 8:47:22 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: papasmurf
DSS

As good a place as any to start.

Actual security quidelines (google "security clearance adjudication guidelines") are set by Presidential Directive.

If you think for a second, there's a very good reason that POTUS and members of congress are NOT required to have security clearances, especial now that DumbO is POTUS.

Since the DSS reports to DOD and the adjudication process itself has so many subjective variables, any POTUS could potentially order DSS to disallow a clearance to any Republican Presidential Candidate any time he wanted to.

137 posted on 04/06/2009 8:55:21 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: little jeremiah
Here's a link to the InfraGard website.

Here's a link to the white paper written by Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki.

The statement of purpose in the document clearly indicates that the document is intended to stimulate discussion. Had the FBI requested such a white paper, the document would reference such a request. It appears that Dr. Rapacki references his membership in the FBI InfraGard as a way to associate the FBI with the document, therefore making it sound more official.

At the present time, I am unable to confirm his membership in InfraGard, but will get back to you with more information as soon as I have it.

To answer you question, yes. It appears Dr. Rapacki wrote the document and submitted it to the FBI as an InfraGard member hoping it would gain some attention within the FBI.

138 posted on 04/06/2009 9:03:57 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: PhilosopherStones

DSS has nothing to do with POTUS clearance requirements. POTUS is not under DOD.

REPOST:

Actually I’ve been researching this for two months. For the POTUS, there never has been a formal background investigation. That’s because is was always informally handled by the respective Parties at the urging of Congress.

The only “official” policy I find on Security Clearances in Gov’t, which include employees, are E.O.’s 12958 (Clinton 1995) and 13292 (Bush 2003)

However, these E.O.’s both refer to the Security Policy Board, which Bush abolished in Feb of 2001, which is referred to as National Security Presidential Directive 1.

For members of Congress and their staff...
Atomic energy “Restricted Data” (42 U.S.C. 2162-2168) and “intelligence sources and methods” (50 U.S.C. 403(d)(3)) —
is specified in statute and subsequent rules issued, respectively, by the Department of Energy and Director of National Intelligence.

Other controlled information — such as “sensitive security”
and “sensitive but unclassified” information — is determined largely by executive directives.

Basically, the POTUS establishes a need for a requirement of a National Security Clearance, and delegates to the National Security Board (NSA) to determine the level and the prerequisites.

Congress is actually charged with regulating, by on the record inference, the suitability of the POTUS.


139 posted on 04/06/2009 9:07:16 PM PDT by papasmurf (Trow da' bum out!)
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To: papasmurf

Well, it looks like you found what you had asked someone else for!
Thanks for passing along the info to me as well. Appreciate it.


140 posted on 04/06/2009 9:11:58 PM PDT by Montana_Gal ("Uh...Uh...She's a Typical White person" -B. Hussein Obama)
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