Authorities: At least 4 shot, 1 dead at Korean Christian retreat in Southern California.

ap via Breitbart ^ | April 7, 2009 | None

[Jet Jaguar]

None as this thread must be excerpted.

[Cindy]

The shooter is in the hospital now.

[vrwc1]

Thanks for the update. Where did you get that information?

[americanophile]

...lots of Korean Presbyterians in So. Cal.

[Cindy]

I was reading one of the articles that said it.

I scan a whole bunch at a time.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Hey,,,Seems to be more hype than usual on these shootings.

I smell a gun-grab comin’,,,JMHO...

[AmericanInTokyo]

They have not stopped yet, have they?, and I predicted another one to happen, with at least five people killed, "in the next few days".

I said that on FR a few days ago. I am an observer of American culture from a very circumspect, independent, distant position..

[Cindy]

I should say, there is a language barrier and breaking news is always subject to change.

[cybervyk]

please tell us why you think that, if you would.

Oakland, Binghamton, Pittsburgh, Greenhill Alabama and now this.
The people are not being listened to, no sign of that changing soon.
People are angry and confused AND ammo'd up.
Speaking for me, I think this is why you'll see more.

[yorkie]

"I smell a gun-grab comin’

You aren't the ONLY one, I am sure. It's just around the corner, now, I fear.

[Cindy]

http://www.myvalleynews.com/story/36944/

“One person killed, three wounded in campground shooting”

Special to the Valley News

Wednesday, April 8th, 2009.
Issue 15, Volume 9.

TEMECULA -
SNIPPET: “Gutierrez told KCAL9 that deputies were continuing to search through the campground to ensure there were no more victims. The retreat participants were people ages 40 and older, Gutierrez said.”

[vrwc1]

breaking news is always subject to change

Agreed. Everything I've read so far says that law enforcement thinks that one of the people sent to the hospital is the shooter, but I haven't found any information that definitely confirms that.

[21twelve]

I think it is a loss of Hope. So many deluded people were thinking that with this new president that there would be a change for the better. (Of course we see a change for the worse). But many, don’t see any change. The folks that thought “Obama will pay my mortgage” are still getting foreclosed on, etc.

And, I think society has just gotten more evil. Back in the Great Depression they didn’t have these mass murders going on. Cool bank robbers instead.

[Cindy]

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.truthusa.com/2ndAmendment.html

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20963.html

[Cindy]

UPDATE:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5j5_AwwDZqUPe5rvX4jcnxdVioEGQ

“Shooting death at religious retreat”
5 minutes ago

SNIPPET: “He said at least two of the victims were critically injured.

Mario Lopez, of the California Highway Patrol, said officers went to the retreat after hearing that a man had shot his wife.

He said one person was dead when they arrived.”

[Lancey Howard]

Is it my imagination or do a lot of these shooting sprees lately involve people for whom English is not their first language?

[Cindy]

Details on the area:

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/Several_Injured_in_Campground_Shooting_20090407

“1 dead, 4 Shot at Korean
Retreat Center”
Last Edited: Tuesday, 07 Apr 2009, 11:32 PM PDT
Created On: Tuesday, 07 Apr 2009, 10:04 PM PDT

Text Story by: CityNews Service
Reporter: Ed Laskos
Web Producer: Heather Limestahl
Temecula (myFOXla.com) -

SNIPPET: “The retreat is one of four U.S. branches of the Kkottongnae Brothers and Sisters of Jesus, a Catholic organization dedicated to serving the poor and homeless. It was founded in the city of Cheongju, South Korea, by Father Oh Woong Jin in 1976.

A woman who answered the phone at the group’s Lynwood branch on Tuesday night said she did not speak English well and declined to discuss the shooting.

Kkottongnae means “flower village,” according to the organization’s Web site. “

[HiTech RedNeck]

The gunman was believed to be among the injured at the Kkottongnae Retreat Camp, and investigators were unsure what prompted the attack

The gunman appeared to have lost control of himself when a camp counselor asked him to spell the name of the camp.

[Greysard]

My theory is that failing economy and huge layoffs push marginally sane, unstable and insecure people beyond what their minds can take. Since the economy continues to deteriorate (sales keep dropping, future orders are abysmal, etc.) the pressure on employees is increasing. One of the recent maniacs was laid off by IBM, for example.

It would be indeed unfortunate if these incidents are used as a basis for making gun ownership harder or impossible. Maniacs will switch to arson, knives, bats, cars - many things are deadly around us. If the society starts crumbling the last thing you want to get rid of is your guns. I was at the local store today, ammo shelves are empty, just like in Soviet Union - you buy not what you want but what you are lucky to find.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/carnival_shooting_details_emer.html

7 shot in this one,,,

It’s back up on the Dead Pelican.com ,,,
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4 ? killed in Shreveport about the same time,,,
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Maybe it’s just me ...

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Hi,Cindy,,,TANKS for the links,,,(saved)...