Posted on 04/08/2009 3:21:28 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
California mega-church pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life Rick Warren says he apologized to his homosexual friends for making comments in support of California's Proposition 8, and now claims he "never once even gave an endorsement" of the marriage amendment.
Pastor Rick WarrenMonday night on CNN's Larry King Live, Pastor Rick Warren apologized for his support of Prop. 8, California's voter-approved marriage protection amendment, saying he has "never been and never will be" an "anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist."
"During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never -- never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop. 8 was going," Warren told the CNN audience on Monday. "The week before the -- the vote, somebody in my church said, 'Pastor Rick, what -- what do you think about this?' And I sent a note to my own members that said, I actually believe that marriage is -- really should be defined, that that definition should be -- say between a man and a woman."
However, just two weeks before the November 4 Prop. 8 vote, Pastor Warren issued a clear endorsement of the marriage amendment while speaking to church members. "We support Proposition 8 -- and if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8," he said.
The following is a complete transcript of Warren's comments just weeks before the Prop. 8 election:
"The election's coming just in a couple of weeks, and I hope you're praying about your vote. One of the propositions, of course, that I want to mention is Proposition 8, which is the proposition that had to be instituted because the courts threw out the will of the people. And a court of four guys actually voted to change a definition of marriage that has been going for 5,000 years.
"Now let me say this really clearly: we support Proposition 8 -- and if you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you need to support Proposition 8. I never support a candidate, but on moral issues I come out very clear.
"This is one thing, friends, that all politicians tend to agree on. Both Barack Obama and John McCain, I flat-out asked both of them: what is your definition of marriage? And they both said the same thing -- it is the traditional, historic, universal definition of marriage: one man and one woman, for life. And every culture for 5,000 years, and every religion for 5,000 years, has said the definition of marriage is between one man and a woman.
"Now here's an interesting thing. There are about two percent of Americans [who] are homosexual or gay/lesbian people. We should not let two percent of the population determine to change a definition of marriage that has been supported by every single culture and every single religion for 5,000 years.
"This is not even just a Christian issue -- it's a humanitarian and human issue that God created marriage for the purpose of family, love, and procreation.
"So I urge you to support Proposition 8, and pass that word on. I'm going to be sending out a note to pastors on what I believe about this. But everybody knows what I believe about it. They heard me at the Civil Forum when I asked both Obama and McCain on their views."
During his CNN interview on Monday, Warren expressed regret for backing Prop. 8. "There were a number of things that were put out. I wrote to all my gay friends -- the leaders that I knew -- and actually apologized to them. That never got out," he admitted.
Additionally, Pastor Warren said he did not want to comment on or criticize the Iowa Supreme Court's decision last week to legalize same-sex "marriage" because it was "not his agenda."
Guess Rick Warren is more interested in pleasing man than adhering to orthodox Christianity.
But then we already knew that, didn’t we?
Maybe he’s a poofer
Another phony and disgrace named Hugh Hewitt is defending Warren and telling people that they are wrong, Hewitt also claims that he hasn't seen the Larry King video. Hewitt interviewed him yesterday.
What a coward..
I just tossed his book in the trash. What a phony.
It's full of modernist subterfuges and absolute denials of the legitimacy of law, but it's biggest problem is that it simply deletes the "one man and one woman" part.
With all the rest of the statute left intact nothing would seem to prohibit the marriage of a woman and a donkey (for example, not that any woman would want to do that, but the Iowa Supreme Court sure seems to think so).
Anyway, in Iowa Justices on the state Supreme Court are appointed by the governor from a list of nominees submitted by the State Judicial Nominating Commission.
I must presume this was one of those "let's get better candidates" reforms ~ but what it actually did was created a court with a very limited electorate. It's down to a Governor and a Committee, and I'll guarantee you a dozen people are not as good an arbiter of selection for office in a democracy as are the body of the people as a whole.
That's where Iowa went astray ~ it bought into the fascism of the 1920s and 1930s and now even laws enacted by both the legislature and the people through referendum ARE NO LONGER BEYOND THE REACH of a small group of cronies and postmenopausal old ladies.
Salvation is not a destination but a journey.
And the tingling leg set too.
When Warren was invited to speak at Obamas innauguration I laughed at the DU’ers who were wcreaming that they had been hoodwinked by Obama. One DU poster wrote a comment that I vowed to watch for. In defense of Obama the poster wrote something to the effect, “Maybe Obama is out to change Warren rather then be changed by Warren.” Be damned if that DUer wasn’t spot on!!!
How about a woman and a chimpanzee?
My thoughts exactly...purpose-driven apostasy
I suspect several of the ol'gals on that court are going to show up at the JP's office soon thereafter, chimp in tow, or maybe with their little Chihuahuas!
Rick Warren makes Joel Osteen look legitimate.
NEVER trust a man that wears a goattee like his....he looks dirty and he SEEMS to be a PHONY.
Yes, but he sold a whole lot of books.
Sad, but true.
So Rick...is homosexuality an abomination in God’s eyes?
RICK WARREN TENDS TO SKIRT ISSUES AND I THINK HE DID IT AGAIN WHILE BEING INTERVIEWED WITH LARRY KING ALIVE. REGARDING PROP. 8. HE OFTEN SAYS YES&NO WHEN BEING INTERVIEWED ON CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES. HIS YES’S OUGHT TO YES AND HIS NO’S OUGHT TO BE NO’S.
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