Posted on 04/08/2009 8:19:06 PM PDT by neverdem
BINGHAMTON, N.Y. -- The man who gunned down 13 people at an upstate New York immigration center fired 98 shots from two handguns in a little more than a minute, police said Wednesday.
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"I asked our range officer and he said easily in a minute you could rip off 98 rounds," said Police Chief Joseph Zikuski. "Our range people tell us it was over in a minute, a minute and a half. It doesn't take long. Especially, it's our understanding that he was an accomplished marksman."
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Police found full magazine clips on the ground inside the center, suggesting Wong had dropped them while reloading. Police found an empty clip that had the capacity for 30 bullets. A laser sight was also found at the scene...
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More tellingly
0 SHOTS FIRED BY COPS
He bump-fired them, for sure. You can do it with a rubberband
fired 98 shots from two handguns in a little more than a minute.
We need to ban guns that carry magazines enough is enough.
Or by people with CCW
I never leave home with out my 45 I have been diligent for the past decade - these days I just might keep a mossberg in my trunk with a box buckshot
The cops say the killer was a MARKSMAN? Talk about grade inflation! He was a CRAP shooter! Let’s be GLAD for his poor skills.
I would like to leave my house with my 357 sig,but i live in CA..
Were the cops on the scene before he killed himself?
OK, I’ll bite—what’s “bump firing with a rubberband”?
I checked my company e-mail a few hours ago to learn that an attorney of ours had a family member killed by this person — her aunt. God bless her and her aunt and the rest of her family.
The only reason they are talking about this is for another run up to banning magazines, semi auto pistols, and anything else on their list. All of which are irrelevant to what happened. The guy shot and killed a bunch of unarmed defenseless people. It wouldn’t have mattered if he fired 100 rounds a minute or 10, nobody was there to stop him before, during or after.
Bump firing is the act of using the recoil of a firearm to fire multiple shots in rapid succession. This process involves holding the foregrip with the non-trigger hand, releasing the grip on the firing hand (leaving the trigger finger in its normal position), pushing the rifle forward in order to apply pressure on the trigger finger from the trigger, and keeping the trigger finger stationary. The firearm will recoil and then return to its previous position after the round has been fired first resetting and then pressing forward against the trigger thereby firing successive shots.
The rapid bursts from semi-automatic firearms simulate the discharge of automatic firearms. Even though a large number of rounds are fired in rapid succession, the trigger finger initiates each discharge; therefore, fully automatic fire is not actually taking place.
Devices (from complicated, specially made triggers to the low-tech rubber band) are employed in order to cause or facilitate the “bumping.” However, not all such devices or modifications are legal. A famous example is the case of the Akins Accelerator for the Ruger 10/22. Though the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) initially allowed mechanical devices for producing rapid fire, this ruling has since been reversed and currently the device is illega
My understanding is no, they weren’t, but it still took them over an HOUR to work up the nerve to go inside... and they had not heard a single shot fired. Gotta love the cops and their SELF-protective procedures. Forget about the victims.
"Our range people tell us it was over in a minute, a minute and a half. It doesn't take long."
That sounds like a guestimate from the cops. At 90 seconds, that's about a shot each second. You don't need a rubberband for that rate of fire mostly with a 9mm.
I don't believe this shooter had a CCW, just a permit/license to possess.
Sounds like BS to me, if that is the way that they "calculated" how quickly the gunman made his shots. The article mentions the 911 call at 10:30 AM and the police arriving on the scene at 10:33 AM and hearing no shots. The 911 call came in some time after the receptionist was shot, and so even if the first officers on the scene got out of their cars and would have been within earshot (excuse the pun) exactly at 10:33, that probably leaves four minutes or more during which the gunman could have been shooting. Just because he "could have" made all of those shots within a minute and a half doesn't mean that he actually did the shooting that quickly. Yet "98 shots in just over a minute" is the phony "statistic" that the gun haters will quote as if it is fact...
MARKSMAN in the Army was the lowest grade to qualify. Expert was highest, then sharpshooter. Regardless, I didn't see any mention of him missing. Each victim could have been shot many times.
I don’t believe this at all. It depends on how long it took for someone to make the first emergency call.
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