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Proposal to increase Michigan beer tax to fund child welfare programs generates a buzz
Michigan Live ^ | 4/12/09 | Ted Roelofs

Posted on 04/12/2009 10:40:02 AM PDT by pissant

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“We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people.. must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live.. We have not time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow suffers. Our landholders, too...retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must...be contented with penury, obscurity and exile.. private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance.

This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it’s train wretchedness and oppression.”

Thomas Jefferson on Taxation and Public Debt


41 posted on 04/12/2009 12:27:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I’m so sorry.

Now Chocolate malts! That’s right up my alley!


42 posted on 04/12/2009 12:27:19 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

I was bummed myself!


43 posted on 04/12/2009 12:28:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I refuse to tack the shackles of taxation on my fellow man.

Thats a very noble statement. However, having endured the persecution by the anti's for over 30 years, I have no such sympathy. In fact it brings a smile to my face.

44 posted on 04/12/2009 12:37:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

It’s a treacherous slope to condone this “divide and conquer” taxation.


45 posted on 04/12/2009 12:40:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Remember when Klintoon levied the tax on luxury yachts?

Rich folks simply bought from overseas.
American workers lost their jobs building boats as a result.


46 posted on 04/12/2009 12:45:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

Liberals don’t see the irony in it.


47 posted on 04/12/2009 1:05:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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Same here pissant

I don’t smoke and personally can’t stand sucking in a lungful of smoke, but if somebody wishes to enjoy a cigarette wherever they are, they have the liberty to do so. They shouldn’t be taxed highly.


48 posted on 04/12/2009 1:07:27 PM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: pissant

In my old Michigan neighborhood (thick with welfare recipients) the welfare queens would send out their kids with food stamps to buy basic staples. They would then use the change to buy cigarettes and alcohol.

What amazed me was how their kids could get ice cream from every truck that passed by; my family worked and we rarely got treats from the ice cream trucks.


49 posted on 04/12/2009 1:28:21 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: pissant
Clearly this reporter wants that tax, he couldn't have found anyone better resembling Bluto Blutarsky to interview.

Now, propose a tax on newsprint, or upping the cost to mail the silly things, and they go all First Amendment on you...

50 posted on 04/12/2009 2:48:08 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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Having escaped from the failed social experiment that is Michigan several years ago, I’m tempted to remind everyone that the last person out of Michigan needs to turn out the lights. Somehow I don’t think the lights will be on that much longer anyway.

First they came for the smokers, and I didn’t do anything because I didn’t smoke. Next, they came for the beer drinkers, and I didn’t do anything because I didn’t drink beer. Then, they came for the fast food eaters, and the the SUV drivers, and....


51 posted on 04/12/2009 2:54:05 PM PDT by FourPeas (I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Thanks grellis. I think the record in Michigan for unmarried fatherhood is 24. Of course, he was fairly young when I met him, and it was a while ago...

Michigan Man Who Fathered 14 Kids
[”owes more than $530,000 in unpaid child support”]
FoxNews.com | 25 April 2009
Posted on 04/12/2009 6:06:28 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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52 posted on 04/12/2009 3:33:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: grellis; pissant

Thanks for the ping; post. When the socialists start messing with the cost of my beer, THEN THEY ARE REALLY STARTING TO TIC ME OFF!


53 posted on 04/12/2009 5:20:22 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: pissant
I don't think there will be a huge uproar in Michigan unless malt liquor is included.
54 posted on 04/13/2009 7:56:10 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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To: MarkL

Better yet, TAX the baby breeders.


55 posted on 04/13/2009 8:00:30 AM PDT by annieokie (i)
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