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Illegal Alien Costs Rising Sharply
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/04/09/ldt.wian.illegal.aliens.cost.cnn ^ | April 9, '09 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 04/12/2009 11:56:53 AM PDT by T.L.Sink

Illegal alien families are using welfare and social services more than ever in the recession. In Los Angeles County alone the cost is more than $1 billion per year. They are costing more than $40 billion per year than what they pay in taxes. Strictly speaking, they shouldn't be eligible for any such services. But for a variety of reasons they're receiving them, one reason being their "anchor babies."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; aliens; amnesty; anchorbabies; bho44; bhoillegals; democratcongress; democrats; economy; financialcrisis; healthcare; illegalaliens; immigration; recession; socialism; socialservices; taxes; youpayforthis
California, a bankrupt state, is a perfect example of the ultimate conclusion to tax-and-spend liberalism. One would think that the billions spent on illegal aliens might alert Arnold to one of the most obvious solutions to Caleefornia's fiscal plight. But he and the legislature refuse to get serious and initiate reforms. Instead, they chose to get into the long bailout line with their tin cup and have the national tax payers foot the bill for their egregious economic and social irresponsibility. As tax consumers continue to flood in from Mexico, and taxpayers flee, the state is sinking in a sea of red ink. Fed up with rising crime rates and rising taxes to subsidize illegal aliens, 150,000 whites are leaving California each year. California is going home to Mexico. Who can deny it? With 43% of all Californians under eighteen Hispanic, California is becoming - indeed, has become - a Third World state.
1 posted on 04/12/2009 11:56:53 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

time to tell them to take care of themselves. they’ve had enough help.


2 posted on 04/12/2009 11:58:02 AM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: T.L.Sink

Anchor baby laws need to be repealed, and the repeal needs to be made retro active 18 years.


3 posted on 04/12/2009 11:59:55 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: T.L.Sink

If we’d just remove the American born children to the safety of official state creche’s, they could be raised up to serve in the ranks of a restructured Border Patrol geared toward keeping Mexicans in Mexico.


4 posted on 04/12/2009 12:02:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: T.L.Sink

Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas is a fairly
famous institution and for a variety of reasons:

1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after
3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few
years later..by coincidence

‘On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second
busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new
babies arriving each year. (That’s almost 44 per
day-—every day)

A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the
women who gave birth at Parkland in three months were
illegal immigrants. That’s 11,200 anchor babies born
every year just in Dallas

According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million
delivering 15,938 babies but managed to end up with almost
$8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in
$34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3
million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.

The average patient in Parkland ‘s maternity wards is
25 years old, married and giving birth to her second
child.

She is also an illegal immigrant.

By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based
on their immigration status or ability to pay. OK, fine.
That doesn’t mean they should receive better care than
everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland
Hospital , they do. ‘ Parkland Memorial Hospital has
nine prenatal clinics’.

That’s right !!!! NINE.

The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman
who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant with
her third child-—her previous two were also born at
Parkland . Her first two deliveries were free and the
Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200
to have them in Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her
to pay $10 per visit and $100 for the delivery but she was
unsure if she could come up with the money. Not that it
matters, the hospital won’t turn her away. (I wonder why
they even bother asking at this point.)

‘How long has this been going on? What are the
long-term affects?

Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland
in 1986 shortly after her mother entered the US illegally -
now she is having her own child there as well. (That’s
right, she’s technically a US citizen.)

These women receive free prenatal care including
medication, nutrition, birthing classes and child care
classes. They also get freebies such as car seats, bottles,
diapers and formula.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as
well but only for low-income applicants and even then, the
red tape involved is almost insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not
have to provide any sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen would have to provide a
social security number which would reveal their annual
income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and
the hospital must take them at their word.

Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County
residents who earn less than $40,000 per year. (They also
have to prove that they did not refuse health coverage at
their current job. Yeah, the ‘free’ care is not so
easy for Americans.)

There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4
million dollars for un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns
out, they did not qualify for free treatment because they
resided outside ofDallas County so the hospital is going
to sue them! Illegal’s get it all free! But U. S
citizens who live outside of Dallas County get sued!
How stupid is this?

As if that isn’t annoying enough, the illegal immigrant
patients are actually complaining about hospital staff not
speaking Spanish . In this AP story, the author speaks
with a woman who is upset that she had to translate comments
from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband. The
doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and
the mother was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was apparently a great injustice to her.

In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland
Hospital is now providing incentives in the form of extra
pay for applicants who speak Spanish. Additionally, medical
students at the University of Texas Southwestern for which
Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now have a
Spanish language requirement added to their already
jammed-packed curriculum. No other school in the country
boasts such a ridiculous multi-semester (multi-cultural) requirement.

( Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation
particularly to our ‘employees’ in Congress.)

Remember that this is only ONE hospital in Dallas , Texas
. There are many more hospitals across our country that also
have to deal with this.


5 posted on 04/12/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by albie
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To: television is just wrong

They need to go back to their own countries.


6 posted on 04/12/2009 12:04:44 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: T.L.Sink

You have not seen any thing as yet. Wait until Obie and the Demwits (and some lacking good judgments repubs)make illegals legal.............Then Cal-e-forn-e-a will really be broke and so will our social security............................


7 posted on 04/12/2009 12:06:17 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: T.L.Sink

deport illegal aliens and:

1, reduce unemployment

2. reduce deficit

3. reduce crime


8 posted on 04/12/2009 12:06:51 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: T.L.Sink

Excellent comments in post #1 T.L.


9 posted on 04/12/2009 12:07:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: albie

Great post. Infuriating, but great.


10 posted on 04/12/2009 12:37:27 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: albie; All

Wow! That post really packed a wallop! Don’t apologize for its length. It very clearly explained in detail what’s happening all over the country. I hope every FReeper reads it and gives it serious consideration. IMHO, it’s important to realize that what your post describes about what has occurred in that Texas hospital is NOT anecdotal. It’s TYPICAL and becoming increasingly so. I think it also goes a long way toward illustrating to what extent insidious PC politics has infiltrated every sector of our society and how it’s eventually going to destroy us. Thanks.


11 posted on 04/12/2009 1:15:25 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: blueyon

Right - and it’s known that amnesty is big on Obie’s agenda. We’ll soon be engaged in the same battle we were a few years ago, And we’ll WIN AGAIN!


12 posted on 04/12/2009 1:19:05 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

Liberals love anchor babies. Illegal immigration could be eliminated if it weren’t for that anchor baby bull.


13 posted on 04/12/2009 1:22:02 PM PDT by dennisw (0gabe our very own Kenyan subprime president)
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To: elpadre

Amen! You’ve said it all in just a few words.


14 posted on 04/12/2009 1:22:53 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

So how long will actual Americans allow illegal aliens to bankrupt our nation?


15 posted on 04/12/2009 1:23:17 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: dennisw

Exactly right! Some good articles have been written about how that whole “anchor baby” business is really a misinterpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. These were not written by cranks but serious constitutional scholars. The whole issue centers on the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” There’s not enough time or space to go into it here but if you want some references let me know. Best,


16 posted on 04/12/2009 1:34:44 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
Exactly right! Some good articles have been written about how that whole “anchor baby” business is really a misinterpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. These were not written by cranks but serious constitutional scholars. The whole issue centers on the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” There’s not enough time or space to go into it here but if you want some references let me know. Best,

One good Supreme Court decision would get rid of this anchor baby garbage once and for all
It is crying shame that no one has initiated a challenge to it because it takes years to get to the Supreme Court

17 posted on 04/12/2009 1:43:48 PM PDT by dennisw (0gabe our very own Kenyan subprime president)
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To: Oldpuppymax

That’s the million dollar question. IMHO, at the present time the majority of Americans are much opposed to the illegal invasion and any form of amnesty. But I think it’s a race against time. If serious action isn’t taken soon to secure the border and deport illegals and millions continue to pour in, eventually the Hispanic lobby (already the fastest growing and largest ethnic group) will be dictating policy in the USA. And we know that most politicians don’t give a damn about our culture or laws - just how to get reelected!


18 posted on 04/12/2009 1:53:48 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: dennisw

Yeah, but your mention of the Supreme Court scares me to death. The appointees that Obama will certainly make in the next few years will make Ruth Bader Ginsburg look like a conservative!


19 posted on 04/12/2009 2:02:26 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

I keep wondering what the state (and the rest of the nation) would be like if Prop 187 had been allowed to stand a decade ago. I don’t think we’d be facing nearly the number of problems from illegal immigration if the people had been allowed a voice.


20 posted on 04/12/2009 10:10:23 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

I’ve wondered about that too and I agree with you. To me, it’s about the dangers of an “Imperial Judiciary” where a panel of unelected lawyers arbitrarily overturn the will of the people. It’s, in effect, rule by an oligarchy not the people. And it’s not just in California that referenda have been rejected by a few lawyers. The worst part of it is that these decisions are clearly determined by sheer political partisanship and have nothing to do with their constitutionality.


21 posted on 04/13/2009 2:14:03 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
The worst part of it is that these decisions are clearly determined by sheer political partisanship and have nothing to do with their constitutionality.

That's the root of my overwhelming frustration! If only these rulings would make it to a higher court....
22 posted on 04/13/2009 11:58:08 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: T.L.Sink; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


23 posted on 04/13/2009 12:09:30 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: CottonBall
I keep wondering what the state (and the rest of the nation) would be like if Prop 187 had been allowed to stand a decade ago. I don’t think we’d be facing nearly the number of problems from illegal immigration if the people had been allowed a voice.

I hope Marianne Pfaelzer, the judge who overturned the will of the people, spends eternity experiencing, from the point of view of the victim, every murder, rape, and drunk driving crash perpetrated by every illegal who was in California because she did not allow Prop 187 to stand.

24 posted on 04/13/2009 12:49:24 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: T.L.Sink
And you think FL is in better shape?

FYI,thanks to your former governor's brother, the ENTIRE COUNTRY is quickly going to hell in a hand basket because of his refusal to enforce the immigration laws of this country, secure BOTH borders AND DEPORT ALL illegal aliens...and I won't even get into the 100K incarcerated foreigners that are costing Americans BILLIONS OF DOLLARS annually.

25 posted on 04/13/2009 3:26:26 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: albie

We have committed suicide.


26 posted on 04/13/2009 4:09:05 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: AuntB

Ping


27 posted on 04/13/2009 5:13:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Being condemned for corruption by Mexico is like being lectured on morals by the adult film industy)
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To: T.L.Sink

I noted today more billboard advertising in Spanish.
Business and govt work hand in hand in these things. Govt dishes out the money and it is spent at the businesses, who more and more cater to Spanish-speaking.

We gringas and gringos foot the bill. CA has raised sales tax one percent. It is now 9.25percento.

More surcharges and raised fees in the works. They are actually following a formalized plan, as outlined by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) to redistribute wealth from U.S to Mexico.


28 posted on 04/13/2009 5:50:57 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Memo to TOTUS: You do NOT speak for ME.)
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To: T.L.Sink
Strictly speaking, they shouldn't be eligible for any such services.

Not all that strictly. Prop 187 specifically outlawed all of this, but then of course some judge, using the divine right of kings or something, decided otherwise.

29 posted on 04/13/2009 6:29:48 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: CottonBall
Gov. Grey Davis refused to have the State Attorney General defend the law when it went before the State Supreme Court.

That effort was KILLED by Democrats.

The American public still isn't angry enough.

But they're stupid enough to elect 0bama.

30 posted on 04/13/2009 6:59:16 PM PDT by happygrl (It's time to Party like it's 1773.)
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To: blueyon

Why would making them legal increase costs?


31 posted on 04/13/2009 7:05:15 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: T.L.Sink

Why can’t we exprt the illegal aliens to Somalia, and Kenya? They can join the Pirates!


32 posted on 04/13/2009 7:23:30 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: T.L.Sink
"Illegal Alien Costs Rising Sharply"

And they will continue to do so, with Zero continuously finding new handouts for them.

33 posted on 04/13/2009 8:20:07 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: muawiyah

I’ve often said that it’s child abuse to bring minors across the border illegally, and certainly American-born children can be removed from the homes of chronic criminal(illegal alien) parents, whose assets should be seized, prior to deportation, to support these children.


34 posted on 04/13/2009 9:34:59 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“Why would making them legal increase costs?”

Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, unemployment benefits, food stamps, welfare, affirmative action, and housing assistance come to mind. All on the taxpayer’s dime.

Combine that with a newly formed rat voting bloc that’s millions strong that will demand an ever increasing number of “entitlements” and you can begin to see the implications.


35 posted on 04/14/2009 3:50:59 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: RU88
Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, unemployment benefits, food stamps, welfare, affirmative action, and housing assistance come to mind. All on the taxpayer’s dime. Combine that with a newly formed rat voting bloc that’s millions strong that will demand an ever increasing number of “entitlements” and you can begin to see the implications.

Florida Studies Reveal Huge Increase in Cost of Illegal Immigration and Widespread Voter Dissatisfaction ----Cost Study and Zogby Poll Offer Comprehensive Statewide Assessment

WASHINGTON, April 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Simultaneous studies, released this week by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), show soaring costs of illegal immigration in Florida and demonstrate strong voter objections to the burdens placed on them by illegal immigration. A new Zogby International poll of 801 likely voters across the state found that, by an overwhelming margin, Floridians believe that illegal immigration is harming their state. Their perceptions are rooted in reality. A separate FAIR study, the Costs of Illegal Immigration to Floridians found that providing education and health care to illegal aliens and their families, and incarcerating criminal illegal aliens, costs state taxpayers more than $3.8 billion annually, more than double the costs measured in 2005.

The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Floridians found that taxpayers spend:
* $3.4 billion a year to educate illegal immigrant children and the U.S. born children of illegal immigrants.
* $290 million a year on unreimbursed health care for illegal aliens.
* $90 million a year to incarcerate criminal illegal aliens.
* The total represents an annual cost to each of Florida’s native-born headed households of $678.

The cost study also determined that the illegal alien population in Florida is now 950,000 persons. This represents 7.3 percent of the national total illegal alien population, and it is the nation’s fourth largest concentration of illegal aliens after California, Texas and New York. It is also about 5.2 percent of Florida’s overall population. The Zogby poll found that:

* 71.3% of Florida voters say illegal immigration has a negative impact on the state. Only 14.4% believe it has a positive impact on Florida.
* 83.5% of Florida voters believe illegal aliens have a negative impact on the state budget, versus only 7.9% who believe their impact is positive.
* 57.5% believe illegal immigration should be reduced through better enforcement of immigration laws. Only 36% of Florida voters favor amnesty or legalization for current illegal aliens.
* 68.6% of Florida voters want worksite immigration enforcement to continue.

Only 21.1% support the Obama administration’s decision to curtail worksite enforcement. “Voters in Florida, like voters everywhere, want their elected officials in Washington and Tallahassee to protect their interests, their jobs, and their tax dollars from the impact of mass illegal immigration,” said Stein. “At a time when the Obama administration is intent on systematically dismantling immigration enforcement, and congressional leaders are considering a new round of amnesty legislation, voters in this key state are saying unequivocally that it is time political leaders stopped pandering to the illegal immigration lobby, and started enforcing laws that serve the interests of ordinary Americans.”

The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Floridians and a summary of the Zogby International Polling results are available at www.fairus.org.
http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-09-2009/0005003466&EDATE=

36 posted on 04/14/2009 5:03:06 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: RU88

But they already get those benefits while they are illegal. Making them legal wouldn’t do anything except add them to the voter rolls eventually (which is a whole other issue).


37 posted on 04/14/2009 5:45:51 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: T.L.Sink

Riots almost broke out with the disclosure of the bonuses($160+ millions) paid to AIG executives but the silence following these diclosures wii be deafening.


38 posted on 04/14/2009 6:00:19 AM PDT by monocle
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