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In Texas, 31% Say State Has Right to Secede From U.S., But 75% Opt To Stay
Rasmussen Reports ^

Posted on 04/17/2009 12:36:45 PM PDT by Scythian

Thirty-one percent (31%) of Texas voters say that their state has the right to secede from the United States and form an independent country.

However, the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in the state finds that if the matter was put to a vote, it wouldn’t even be close. Three-fourths (75%) of Lone Star State voters would opt to remain in the United States. Only 18% would vote to secede, and seven percent (7%) are not sure what they'd choose.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; secede; texas; tx2009
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1 posted on 04/17/2009 12:36:45 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: ForGod'sSake; MamaTexan

Ping


2 posted on 04/17/2009 12:38:06 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: Scythian

If Obama can be president without proving he’s a natural born citizen of the U.S., then we have a right to secede.


3 posted on 04/17/2009 12:39:40 PM PDT by Need4Truth (Lie, lie, lie; spend, spend, spend; liberal, liberal, liberal.)
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To: Scythian
Thirty-one percent (31%) of Texas voters say that their state has the right to secede from the United States and form an independent country.

Someone inform Geraldo Rivera.

4 posted on 04/17/2009 12:39:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: djsherin

Yeeeehaw, Socialism ain't bad, we still getta go line dancin' ...
5 posted on 04/17/2009 12:40:25 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

They only polled 500 Texans and most of them were prolly from Dallas


6 posted on 04/17/2009 12:40:51 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (We are all equal here but some of us are more equal than others.)
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To: djsherin

I thought the right to secede was part of Texas’ agreement when they entered the Union ... not subject to opinion. Do I have this wrong, or are they really saying 69% of Texans don’t know their rights?


7 posted on 04/17/2009 12:41:27 PM PDT by JustSurrounded (Just when did the Constitution become an extremist document?)
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To: Scythian

“Overall, seven percent (7%) of Texas voters have views that align with America’s Political Class or lean in that direction”

“the same as the national average”, apparently.

There is a “Political Class”, that has “Aligned Views”, and this is fine, we’re talking about that now?


8 posted on 04/17/2009 12:41:28 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Scythian
How come Rasmussen and Pew never do polls like:

"Only 20% of Americans believe President Obama when he says there are 57 states..."

or

"Only 34% of Americans believe Nancy Pelosi when she says 500 million Americans are losing their jobs every month..."

9 posted on 04/17/2009 12:42:21 PM PDT by exist
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To: Rightly Biased

And living on welfare in subsidized housing eating food-stamp meals. “Ain’ no way we’uns is a’gonna seh-seed!”


10 posted on 04/17/2009 12:44:10 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: JustSurrounded

“Do I have this wrong, or are they really saying 69% of Texans don’t know their rights?”

You have it wrong. So does Gov. Perry (surprise, surprise. The deal was that Texas could split into, I believe, five separate states. The purpose being to increase its “territorial” voice in Congress. As recently as the 1930s, John Nance Garner tried to arrange just that.


11 posted on 04/17/2009 12:44:59 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Scythian

How many illegals in this poll?


12 posted on 04/17/2009 12:45:36 PM PDT by meandog (There are bad no dogs, only bad owners--the only good bad owner is one mauled by a good bad dog!)
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To: Scythian

It depends upon which poll you look at.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2231189/posts


13 posted on 04/17/2009 12:45:51 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: Scythian
I think that was about the same poll numbers that the Tar-heels of North Carolina had in 1860 and early 1861. And boy how quickly the Federals changed that poll around? Them same Tar-heels eventually fielded the some of meanest hard fightingest sons-a-#itches in the war. And I'm proud as hell my ancestors were among them.
14 posted on 04/17/2009 12:46:42 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (Party like its 1773)
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To: Rightly Biased

Most of them were from probably from Mexico and didn’t want to live in a country with secure borders.


15 posted on 04/17/2009 12:46:57 PM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Scythian

31% of Texans are too stupid to realize that their state cannot secede from the Union.


16 posted on 04/17/2009 12:47:35 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Kolokotronis

Ahhhh ... thanks!


17 posted on 04/17/2009 12:47:39 PM PDT by JustSurrounded (Just when did the Constitution become an extremist document?)
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To: Kolokotronis

No one could agree on which of the 5 new states would get the Alamo.

There was talk in the 70’s of carving a Hispanic state out of Texas but some Hispanic leaders argued that the Anglos practice of birth control and abortion would give Hispanics the majority in only a few years and thus they would have all of Texas.


18 posted on 04/17/2009 12:48:44 PM PDT by Klondike
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To: humblegunner
What you post is not a poll.

See: Statistical Sampling Methodology

19 posted on 04/17/2009 12:48:54 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

now there’s an unpragmatic view. what do you think the response would be, an invasion?

this ain’t 1880.


20 posted on 04/17/2009 12:49:58 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: JustSurrounded

I’m pretty sure they did. But so did Virginia and I want to say a few others when they signed the original Constitution. But even if they hadn’t, it isn’t a power that is denied to them and therefore they reserve the right to secede through the 10th Amendment.


21 posted on 04/17/2009 12:50:57 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: trumandogz
What you post is not a poll.

I know, it's rough. You have to click the link.

Then you have to click another link, of all things.

Then you have to spot the poll.

It's just too damn much I say!

22 posted on 04/17/2009 12:53:12 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: Scythian

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


23 posted on 04/17/2009 12:54:10 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
now there’s an unpragmatic view. what do you think the response would be, an invasion?

You may recall from the history books that Texas did leave the Union back in 1861 and four years later was forced by gunpoint back into the Union.

And when Texas did re-join the Union in 1865 it did not have the option to secede in the future.

24 posted on 04/17/2009 12:54:14 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz; Eaker; TheMom; Allegra; eastforker
Texans are too stupid to realize that their state cannot secede from the Union.

Wanna bet?

25 posted on 04/17/2009 12:55:18 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: humblegunner

Yes, I clicked on the link and it does not lead to a scientific poll.

See: Scientific Sampling Methodology.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 12:55:33 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: meandog

How many illegals in this poll?

It appears about 75%


27 posted on 04/17/2009 12:55:57 PM PDT by kezzek
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To: Scythian

I thought when Texas joined the union, it got a pre-nup and reserved the right to secede.


28 posted on 04/17/2009 12:56:53 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( AR2, Overdue! = American Revolution II...Overdue.)
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To: humblegunner

Please provide the documentation that states that Texas can secede from the Union.

See: American Civil War

See: Reconstruction


29 posted on 04/17/2009 12:57:14 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Yeah, but we are smarter than you since we live here...


30 posted on 04/17/2009 12:57:49 PM PDT by CenTex (Texas has a governor for sale; make an offer...)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

See post #11 and #21


31 posted on 04/17/2009 12:57:49 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: trumandogz

10th Amendment.


32 posted on 04/17/2009 12:58:49 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: CenTex

I can walk out onto me deck at home in Austin and see the Capitol dome.


33 posted on 04/17/2009 12:59:20 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Scythian

A poll with 500 people, wow, why am I not impressed by this?


34 posted on 04/17/2009 12:59:48 PM PDT by calex59
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To: djsherin

The 10th Amendment says that Texas can secede from the Union?


35 posted on 04/17/2009 1:00:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Please provide the documentation that states that Texas can secede from the Union.

It's right below the documentation that says we can't.

Honestly.. do you reckon we need PERMISSION?

36 posted on 04/17/2009 1:01:17 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: calex59
A poll with 500 people, wow, why am I not impressed by this?

Yes, that would be a poll with a Margin of Error of 4.38%.

37 posted on 04/17/2009 1:01:51 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: All
Perhaps they need this decal?


38 posted on 04/17/2009 1:02:06 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: trumandogz

Is the right of secession denied to states by the Constitution?


39 posted on 04/17/2009 1:03:34 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: humblegunner

And leaving the Union worked out so well for Texas back in 1861!

And if Texas did leave the Union, it would be a nation where whites were in the minority.


40 posted on 04/17/2009 1:03:40 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: djsherin
Is the right of secession denied to states by the Constitution?

Would you like me to cite the outcomes for the 11 states that left the Union back in 1861?

41 posted on 04/17/2009 1:05:06 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: NavyCanDo
I think that was about the same poll numbers that the Tar-heels of North Carolina had in 1860 and early 1861. And boy how quickly the Federals changed that poll around? Them same Tar-heels eventually fielded the some of meanest hard fightingest sons-a-#itches in the war. And I'm proud as hell my ancestors were among them.

One of my proudest possessions is a picture of my great Grandfather in his confederate Uniform. I have the original in black and white and a colored version that some relative had made later. He looks fierce and mean and has yellow piping on the sleeves.

A true story is that my family lived in a southern state that I never learned the name of, they said that the name of the state and the real name of the family was secret, I imagine something went down after the war and the family was wanted for some reason or another. They(the family)moved to Arkansas after the war and changed their name to Coleman, I don't know the real name, but they had a farm near a small town called Atkins. The town is still there, the farm has long been sold, unfortunately.

This was all on my mothers side, my fathers family had a much milder history and not civil war photos.

42 posted on 04/17/2009 1:06:21 PM PDT by calex59
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To: trumandogz

If you say you have the right to keep and bear arms and the government disagrees and kills you, does that change the fact you have the right to keep and bear arms? Practically you don’t have the right, but that’s because the government is breaking the law, not because your right doesn’t exist.


43 posted on 04/17/2009 1:09:09 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: trumandogz
It is a phony poll, it was taken by people of one demographic, go look it up. It is like all left wing polls, in other words: Cooked. You, sir, I recognize as a left wing agitator on FR, better known as a troll. As to your views on the civil war and what happened to those "11 states" you commented on in another post, just because they lost doesn't mean they were in the wrong. They had every right to secede, if you can join something you can quit it. If that idiot hadn't fired on Fort Sumter they would have been left alone but the north pushed them to the point where they felt they had to fight.

If Texas left the Union today the results would be a bit different I am thinking and you can take your opinion and shove it up your a**.

44 posted on 04/17/2009 1:13:50 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Scythian

Obama has been in office for less than 3 months, and already 31% of Texans are ready to secede. At that rate, the entire state will be ready after he’s been in office around a year. I see this report like the cup is half full. LOL Another thing to consider is that Texas is a huge state, and although I’m not sure how many people live in Texas, I know that 31% would be several million people. It’s not like Razzy took this poll in New Hampshire. 31% of the people who live in NH wouldn’t be very many, compared to 31% in Texas.


45 posted on 04/17/2009 1:13:56 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (I owe $35K more on my taxes so I called IRS and told them "no bail out from me. Print your own! ")
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To: trumandogz
And when Texas did re-join the Union in 1865 it did not have the option to secede in the future

Contracts between citizens and signed under duress are not valid in a court of law yes?

46 posted on 04/17/2009 1:18:26 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: Rightly Biased

Dallas is a great town.


47 posted on 04/17/2009 1:18:53 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: humblegunner

The last time Texas and some sister states tried this back in the 1860s it did not turn out very well


48 posted on 04/17/2009 1:19:36 PM PDT by mono
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To: Scythian
Just think, if Texas leaves, some other state will have a shot at crowning Miss Americas... and America can look somewhere other than Texas for Presidents (although I don't see good candidates on the rise here anyway, at least not any who'd WANT the job).

And the Democrats would have an electoral vote edge.

49 posted on 04/17/2009 1:20:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: trumandogz

***And leaving the Union worked out so well for Texas back in 1861!***

Obama appears pretty intent on raising taxes regardless of our protests. Let’s just give up!

***And if Texas did leave the Union, it would be a nation where whites were in the minority.***

So?


50 posted on 04/17/2009 1:22:06 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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