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Dawkins and Design
Creation Magazine ^ | June 2009 | David Catchpoole

Posted on 04/21/2009 8:03:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Dawkins and Design

by David Catchpoole

Romans 1:20 states that everyone should be able to understand that there is a Creator from what has been made, “so that men are without excuse”. But in this “Year of Darwin”, there’s no shortage of outspoken Darwin adulators who unashamedly proclaim the world was not created.

Surely the best known of these is Richard Dawkins. In his book The Blind Watchmaker, Dawkins wrote: “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose”, then proceeds to argue that they were not.

Dawkins has vociferously continued to proclaim the “no design, therefore no designer” line. But when Ben Stein (in the recent documentary Expelled) asked him...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; dawkins; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign

1 posted on 04/21/2009 8:03:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

ping!


2 posted on 04/21/2009 8:04:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Dawkins is a moron.


3 posted on 04/21/2009 8:09:11 AM PDT by frogjerk (NO TAXATION FOR REAMORTIZATION!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Dawkins is the genius who, when pressed, said he’d believe life on Earth was seeded by aliens before he'd believe that God was responsible for it.
4 posted on 04/21/2009 8:10:14 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: GodGunsGuts
When Stein asked Dawkins what he would do if he met God after he died, Dawkins replied:

“Bertrand Russell had that point put to him and he said something like, ‘Sir, why did you take such pains to hide yourself?’”

John 9:41 - " Jesus said to them: If you were blind, you should not have sin: but now you say: We see. Your sin remaineth."

5 posted on 04/21/2009 8:13:04 AM PDT by frogjerk (NO TAXATION FOR REAMORTIZATION!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


6 posted on 04/21/2009 8:17:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m constantly amazed at scientists who, once they’ve uncovered a few of the universe’s secrets, pat themselves on the back and proclaim how smart they are and deny that any creative force is present in the design of the universe. It is one thing to understand DNA, quite another to be able to design it. I appreciate Mozart but could never compose such beautiful music myself. I don’t think a million monkeys banging on a piano for a million years would ever duplicate a Mozart concerto


7 posted on 04/21/2009 8:29:07 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Cedric

>>> Dawkins is the genius who, when pressed, said he’d believe life on Earth was seeded by aliens before he’d believe that God was responsible for it. <<<

The notion of “directed panspermia” has been kicked around for a while. Crick and Orgel coined the term back in 1973, but the underlying idea has been a staple in sci-fi for over a century.

Dawkins was just being a consistent Epicurean-style athiestic materialist. I wasn’t surprised.


8 posted on 04/21/2009 8:36:03 AM PDT by Poe White Trash
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To: Cedric
Given just how advanced that alien civilization would have to be to accomplish the seeding (master interstellar flight, extremely advanced biological technology, etc.), how would he be able to tell the difference? They likely would possess “powers” that Dawkins and others would consider miraculous, or (dare I say it?) “God-like.”

Before answering, consider that only a 2,500 year technological, political, and cultural difference existed between the Central American Native Americans and the Spanish conquistadors. What if the difference had been 25,000 years? Or 250,000 years, or 2.5 million years, or ... well, you get the picture.

9 posted on 04/21/2009 8:37:03 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Faulty premise.


10 posted on 04/21/2009 8:44:31 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Huskrrrr

I think you are confusing the celebrity atheist Dawkins with actual scientists. I cannot think of one in-the-trenches scientist who has proclaimed what you suggest. I think you might be putting words in the strawman’s mouth.


11 posted on 04/21/2009 8:49:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: GodGunsGuts
Romans 1:20 states that everyone should be able to understand that there is a Creator from what has been made, “so that men are without excuse”.

People should also be able to grasp the basic stupidity of the available alternatives, particularly evolution. Nobody with any semblance of brains or talent could feel sorry for anybody who died believing in evolution.

Salesmen sometimes do the same thing, i.e. tell prospective customers a lie so ridiculous that they can't feel sorry for somebody who buys off on it.

12 posted on 04/21/2009 9:53:16 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Cedric

Explain...I assume you can.


13 posted on 04/21/2009 9:53:42 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: dmz

Sorry, in no way did I mean to imply that Dawkins actually made any of the statements in my first post. These examples did however come from the mouth of actual scientists I have come in contact with. See my second post.


14 posted on 04/21/2009 10:40:51 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr
I appreciate Mozart but could never compose such beautiful music myself.

There's the key: You appreciate Mozart. Your perception of the sounds you hear is that they are beautiful. Quite possibly just a monkey banging on a piano for an hour sounds quite pleasant to him, maybe better than Mozart. To him, he has produced the superior music and the complexity of Mozart sounds like chaotic noise.

To put it succinctly: creative design is perceived.

15 posted on 04/21/2009 10:58:37 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Good point!


16 posted on 04/21/2009 11:38:12 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Huskrrrr

There are monkeys right now demanding that we listen to their gibberish, explaining it’s so much better than Mozart.

IN FACT, liberals consider themselves to BE great apes.


17 posted on 04/21/2009 12:42:53 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

LOL!


18 posted on 04/21/2009 2:16:13 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: GodGunsGuts

God created evolution. And it is cool!


19 posted on 04/21/2009 3:49:19 PM PDT by Darwin Fish
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To: GodGunsGuts

Dawkins is a dolt whos only goal is to kick God out of everything- His rantings are meaningless to the intellectually honest


20 posted on 04/21/2009 6:04:23 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

==Dawkins is a dolt whos only goal is to kick God out of everything- His rantings are meaningless to the intellectually honest

Perhaps that explains why Darkins has such a large following amongst the Evos!


21 posted on 04/21/2009 11:21:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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