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Asian-Americans blast UC Admissions Policy
AP Report ^ | April 24, 2009

Posted on 04/24/2009 7:19:29 PM PDT by Steelfish

Asian-Americans blast UC admissions policy They say new standards are unfair, will reduce their numbers on campus

April 24, 2009

SAN FRANCISCO - A new admissions policy set to take effect at the University of California system in three years is raising fears among Asian-Americans that it will reduce their numbers on campus, where they account for a remarkable 40 percent of all undergraduates.

University officials say the new standards — the biggest change in UC admissions since 1960 — are intended to widen the pool of high school applicants and make the process more fair.

But Asian-American advocates, parents and lawmakers are angrily calling on the university to rescind the policy, which will apply at all nine of the system's undergraduate campuses.

They point to a UC projection that said the new standards would sharply reduce Asian-American admissions while resulting in little change for blacks and Hispanics, and a big gain for white students.

"I like to call it affirmative action for whites," said Ling-chi Wang, a retired professor at UC Berkeley. "I think it's extremely unfair to Asian-Americans on the one hand and underrepresented minorities on the other."

Asian-Americans are the single largest ethnic group among UC's 173,000 undergraduates. In 2008, they accounted for 40 percent at UCLA and 43 percent at UC Berkeley — the two most selective campuses in the UC system — as well as 50 percent at UC San Diego and 54 percent at UC Irvine.

Asian-Americans are about 12 percent of California's population and 4 percent of the U.S. population overall.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: admissions; affirmativeaction; asianamericans; california; demagogicparty; highereducation; preferences; prop209; proposition209; quotas; racenorming
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1 posted on 04/24/2009 7:19:29 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Well, that’s what they get for making underachiever look bad. It’s only fair.


2 posted on 04/24/2009 7:22:49 PM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: Steelfish
Asian-Americans are about 12 percent of California's population and 4 percent of the U.S. population overall.

That's more of a minority than either blacks or Hispanics.

Oh wait, I forgot, "minority" is liberal doublespeak for any uneducated group that the leftists want to keep down in order to stay in power.

3 posted on 04/24/2009 7:24:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Steelfish

At least these schools can look forward to much better frat parties.


4 posted on 04/24/2009 7:24:34 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
Possibly ~ many Asian origin folks simply can't drink alcohol.

However, that's no reason for the State of California to target them for removal again.

5 posted on 04/24/2009 7:30:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PGR88
Possibly ~ many Asian origin folks simply can't drink alcohol.

However, that's no reason for the State of California to target them for removal again.

6 posted on 04/24/2009 7:30:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PGR88
Possibly ~ many Asian origin folks simply can't drink alcohol.

However, that's no reason for the State of California to target them for removal again.

7 posted on 04/24/2009 7:31:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Steelfish

Remember the words of the inimitable Dr. Sowell. I paraphrase - “Over or under-representation in any field of human endeavor is the norm and not the exception.” Those pesky Asian-Americans do very well indeed in academia. How in the hell do they achieve this standard of excellence while being a minority and ergo, suppressed and oppressed by the man?


8 posted on 04/24/2009 7:31:53 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: Steelfish

They keep voting Democrat, then complain about the results...

http://www.asiansvote.com/entries/000162.shtml


9 posted on 04/24/2009 7:31:59 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Global warming? Watch Solar Cycle 24, baby, not CO levels...)
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To: Steelfish

here’s a radical thought

why not just accept those who have the highest grades into the school instead of basing it on race, religion or what ever groups the left likes to give

When they Asian who are they referring to
Chinese or Indian, Pakistani or Thai
Asia is a big coiuntry with different looks

I wish they would be more precise if they are going to class people

In the UK they call Pakistanis, paki for short Asians as the left deems the words Pakistani or paki racist

So when the police issue a look out , they say Asian male
Not exactly direct is it and they wonder they they never catch anyone


10 posted on 04/24/2009 7:33:48 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Steelfish
Uh... the truth is that the system is already stacked against Asian students, and it's not the white students that are taking their earned slots.

But until now, it wasn't PC for them to raise objections, since it was not the white students whose slots were being expanded.

IMHO, the UC system should be sold off to the private sector and save the taxpayer's money.

Then it would not be a political football.

11 posted on 04/24/2009 7:36:37 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: manc

“...When they Asian who are they referring to
Chinese or Indian, Pakistani or Thai
Asia is a big coiuntry with different looks...”

It’s such a big country some would even call it a continent! Sorry, I couldn’t resist...


12 posted on 04/24/2009 7:37:31 PM PDT by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: Steelfish
They're just upset because they haven't learned to feel guilty about their undeserved privileges yet. (Seriously, the whole "privilege" concept is key to understanding how liberals are currently defining racist -- see here.)
13 posted on 04/24/2009 7:38:35 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Steelfish
They're just upset because they haven't learned to feel guilty about their undeserved privileges yet. (Seriously, the whole "privilege" concept is key to understanding how liberals are currently defining racist -- see here.)
14 posted on 04/24/2009 7:39:49 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Steelfish

So instead of finding out why poor-to-middle income Asians do significantly better at school than poor-to-middle income Blacks and poor-to-middle income Hispanics— liberals just ask for more money!! Unbelievable.


15 posted on 04/24/2009 7:40:57 PM PDT by exist
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To: phatus maximus; manc; Reverend Wright

Very unclear if they’re including Indians as “Asians”, who have a very very different Democrat voting habit than Southeast Asians who tend to vote conservative.

Also ethnic Chinese tend to vote more Democrat.

I ran across a site many years ago that at one time tracked this stuff through polling within Asian American ethnic communities, but being a political site with a leftie slant, they eventually stopped showing that info because it starkly illustrated what I said above. They needed a monolithic “Asian” voting bloc, not one with a range of political interests and political opinions.

That’s how lefties work.


16 posted on 04/24/2009 7:48:07 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Steelfish
"I think it's extremely unfair to Asian-Americans on the one hand...

But it's fair that half the students are Asian when only 12% of Californians are Asian? Imagine how outraged he'd be if the percentage of whites students was four times their population percentages. He'd blow a gasket.

Note he mentioned Asian-Americans. No one has any problem with an Asian-American getting admitted over a nonAsian-American, as long as his grades are better, all other things being equal. Admissions should be grade-based and strictly competitive, imo, race playing no role whatsoever.

What I didn't like when I was at UC, was the huge number of Chinese nationals who gain admission over American students. The place was overflowing with them, both among the undergraduate and graduate ranks.

And forget about the number of Chinese professors! Of all the Chinese professors in the math and physics departments at the two campuses I attended, only one was a natural born American citizen. The rest were all foreign nationals. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were spies. Even dropped a couple of classes because their accents were so bad, you couldn't understand a thing they were saying.

17 posted on 04/24/2009 7:50:00 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: angkor
Very unclear if they’re including Indians as “Asians”, who have a very very different Democrat voting habit than Southeast Asians who tend to vote conservative.

Any hard numbers to back this up? I work in a company filled with Indians - my conversations tend to turn up an awful lot of conservative or libertarian types among them.
18 posted on 04/24/2009 7:57:25 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I have yet to meet a left wing Asian.


19 posted on 04/24/2009 8:29:30 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: manc
In the UK they call Pakistanis, paki for short Asians as the left deems the words Pakistani or paki racist

You have it wrong dude. Pakistani is very proper. To use the word "Paki" would be the equal of calling Clarence Thomas the N WORD, though many on the left do refer to Clarence Thomas by this term.

20 posted on 04/24/2009 8:38:36 PM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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