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FAA Memo: Feds Knew NYC Flyover Would Cause Panic
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| 4/28/09
Posted on 04/28/2009 2:44:15 PM PDT by Crazieman
Threatened Federal Sanctions Against NYPD, Secret Service, FBI & Mayor's Office If Secret Ever Got Out
Furious Obama Apologizes: "It Will Never Happen Again"
A furious President Barack Obama ordered an internal review of Monday's low-flying photo op over the Statue of Liberty.
CBS 2 HD has discovered the feds will have plenty to question.
Federal officials knew that sending two fighter jets and Air Force One to buzz ground zero and Lady Liberty might set off nightmarish fears of a 9/11 replay, but they still ordered the photo-op kept secret from the public.
In a memo obtained by CBS 2 HD the Federal Aviation Administration's James Johnston said the agency was aware of "the possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense) aircraft flying at low altitudes" in an around New York City. But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: af1; airforceone; bho44; bhoairforceone; bhusseinobama; chairmanmaobama; corruption; democrats; faa; faamemo; feds; felonystupidity; flyover; maobama; memo; newyork; newyorkcity; nyc; obama; obamatruthfile; panic
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To: library user
The article says a mayoral aide kept it from bloomie.
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:54:05 PM PDT
by
Boiling Pots
(Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
To: CondorFlight
We need to demand they make public every single person on board....not that we can trust them to tell the truth.
To: EyeGuy
Who did the threatening? Rahm or Axelrod?
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:54:42 PM PDT
by
penelopesire
("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
To: EyeGuy
We can tell the bad guys how we are going to interrogate them so they can prepare but this stunt is kept a Secret? Have we entered the twilight zone?
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:55:11 PM PDT
by
Typical_Whitey
(Hey Obama, the world loved Bill Clinton too, but radical muslims still attacked us.)
To: jennyjenny
They continue to spit in every face in America...I think people are so shocked by this guy that they can’t react rationally. Obama is crazy and nobody wants to call the emperor naked.
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:55:47 PM PDT
by
April Lexington
(Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
To: Crazieman
If this was a photo-op, who was going to take the pictures and from where? And why can’t we see the photos, now that NYC has had the crap scared out of it? We have seen the amateur photos, we know it happened. Why are the pics a secret?
To: library user
I just don’t get it:
1) If the reason was as stated “souvenir photos”, why did it need to be a “secret”.
2) They have all these NYC bureaucratic entities on board to keep this a secret, as if a low-flying jumbo jet over Manhattan could be kept on the down-low.
Something either very sinister, or very stupid (or both) is at work here.
I’m at a loss and and open to conjecture from anyone.
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:56:12 PM PDT
by
EyeGuy
To: CondorFlight
And yet no manifest released as to WHO was on board. FOIA anyone?
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:56:31 PM PDT
by
hkp123
To: Crazieman
For those who want to know,
Obama is laughing is A$$ off
at those stupid New Yorkers running like rabbits
from a CONSTITUTIONALLY UNQUALLIFIED MUZZL'EM Piece Of Socialism!!!
Order JO 7110.65S
Air Traffic Control
February 14, 2008
This web version contains Change 1, dated 7/31/2008
(Pertinent Excerpts)
2-1-1. ATC SERVICE (page 2-1-1)
The primary purpose of the ATC system is to prevent a collision between aircraft operating in the system and to organize and expedite the flow of traffic, and to provide support for National Security and Homeland Defense. In addition to its primary function, the ATC system has the capability to provide (with certain limitations) additional services. The ability to provide additional services is limited by many factors, such as the volume of traffic, frequency congestion, quality of radar, controller workload, higher priority duties, and the pure physical inability to scan and detect those situations that fall in this category. It is recognized that these services cannot be provided in cases in which the provision of services is precluded by the above factors. Consistent with the aforementioned conditions, controllers shall provide additional service procedures to the extent permitted by higher priority duties and other circumstances. The provision of additional services is not optional on the part of the controller, but rather is required when the work situation permits. Provide air traffic control service in accordance with .....
2-1-2. DUTY PRIORITY
a. Give first priority to separating aircraft and issuing safety alerts as required in this order. Good judgment shall be used in prioritizing all other provisions of this order based on the requirements of the situation at hand.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 2-1-6, Safety Alert.
NOTE-
Because there are many variables involved, it is virtually impossible to develop a standard list of duty priorities that would apply uniformly to every conceivable situation. Each set of circumstances must be evaluated on its own merit, and when more than one action is required, controllers shall exercise their best judgment based on the facts and circumstances known to them. That action which is most critical from a safety standpoint is performed first.
b. Provide support to national security and homeland defense activities to include, but not be limited to, reporting of suspicious and/or unusual aircraft/pilot activities.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7610.4, Special Operations.
c. Provide additional services to the extent possible, contingent only upon higher priority duties and other factors including limitations of radar, volume of traffic, frequency congestion, and workload.
2-1-4. OPERATIONAL PRIORITY(page 2-1-2)
Provide air traffic control service to aircraft on a first come, first served" basis as circumstances permit, except the following:
NOTE-
It is solely the pilot's prerogative to cancel an IFR flight plan. However, a pilot's retention of an IFR flight plan does not afford priority over VFR aircraft. For example, this does not preclude the requirement for the pilot of an arriving IFR aircraft to adjust his/her flight path, as necessary, to enter a traffic pattern in sequence with arriving VFR aircraft.
a. An aircraft in distress has the right of way over all other air traffic.
REFERENCE-
14 CFR Section 91.113(c).
b. Provide priority to civilian air ambulance flights LIFEGUARD." Air carrier/taxi usage of the LIFEGUARD" call sign, indicates that operational priority is requested. When verbally requested, provide priority to military air evacuation flights (AIR EVAC, MED EVAC) and scheduled air carrier/air taxi flights. Assist the pilots of air ambulance/evacuation aircraft to avoid areas of significant weather and turbulent conditions. When requested by a pilot, provide notifications to expedite ground handling of patients, vital organs, or urgently needed medical materials.
NOTE-
It is recognized that heavy traffic flow may affect the controller's ability to provide priority handling. However, without compromising safety, good judgment shall be used in each situation to facilitate the most expeditious movement of a lifeguard aircraft.
c. Provide maximum assistance to SAR aircraft performing a SAR mission.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 10-1-3, Providing Assistance.
d. Expedite the movement of presidential aircraft and entourage and any rescue support aircraft as well as related control messages when traffic conditions and communications facilities permit.
NOTE-
As used herein the terms presidential aircraft and entourage include aircraft and entourage of the President, Vice President, or other public figures when designated by the White House.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 2-4-20, Aircraft Identification.
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 4-3-2, Departure Clearances.
FAAO JO 7210.3, Para 5-1-1, Advance Coordination.
e. Provide special ...
4-3-2. DEPARTURE CLEARANCES (page 4-3-1)
Include the following items in IFR departure clearances:
NOTE-
When considered necessary, controllers or pilots may initiate read backs of a clearance. Some pilots may be required by company rule to do so.
a. Always include the airport of departure when issuing a departure clearance for relay to an aircraft by an FSS, dispatcher, etc.
b. Clearance Limit.
1. Specify the destination airport when practicable, even though it is outside controlled airspace. Issue short range clearances as provided for in any procedures established for their use.
2. For Air Force One (AF1) operations, do not specify the destination airport.
NOTE-
Presidential detail is responsible for ensuring the accuracy of the destination airport.
PHRASEOLOGY-
DESTINATION AS FILED.
Order JO 7210.3V
Chapter 5. Special Flight Handling
Section 1. Presidential Aircraft
5-1-1. ADVANCE COORDINATION (Pages 5-1-1 thru 5-1-3)
NOTE- Presidential aircraft and entourage, referred to herein, include aircraft and entourage of the President, the Vice President, or other public figures designated by the White House.
a. An advance survey group comprised of representatives of the Office of the Military Assistant to the President, the U.S. Secret Service, the White House Staff, and a Presidential Advance Agent may visit each location which the Presidential aircraft will transit. The visit is normally made several days in advance of the trip to determine security aspects and the availability of supporting services. On this visit the group may meet with the airport operator, the ATCT manager, and other interested parties. Based on the evaluation by this group, a decision is made on the use of the airport, and further coordination is planned for an advance group.
b. The advance group, comprised of representatives of the same organizations stated in subpara a, will meet with the same airport elements to complete security measures and supporting services and determine the necessary restrictions to air traffic operations before the arrival and the departure of the Presidential aircraft and while the Presidential entourage is on the airport. The security provisions may include stationing a guard in the tower cab or at the tower entrance and maintaining two-way communications between the control tower and agents on the ground. This meeting will be held several days in advance of the planned arrival of the Presidential aircraft. The advance group has been requested to have all elements of the group coordinate with the FAA simultaneously. 1. The air traffic manager shall appoint an air traffic supervisor to serve as coordinator who will be responsible for attending all meetings and briefing all affected personnel. Additionally, the coordinator shall brief the ATCSCC and the appropriate ARTCC of any traffic delays or restrictions.
2. All advance coordination shall be documented, with special attention given to routes, radio frequencies, and assigned transponder codes. This documentation shall be made available to the personnel on duty who will be handling the Presidential movement.
3. The meeting shall be attended by the ATCT manager, the coordinator, and, if available, the supervisory specialist(s) who will be on duty and directly involved in the control of airport traffic during the arrival and departure, and while the Presidential entourage is on the airport.
4. The air traffic manager shall take whatever steps are necessary to ensure that the Presidential flight, airplanes, helicopters, and entourage are given priority. Restrictions will be placed upon normal air traffic operations to provide priority unless directed otherwise by the Presidential advance agent (USAF) or the Secret Service representative; the latter when the Presidential advance agent (USAF) is not directly involved. ATCT personnel shall be guided by the determinations of the advance group and shall cooperate to the maximum extent possible. The air traffic manager shall consider the following alternatives:
(a) Employing air traffic control techniques to temporarily adjust or suspend the movement of traffic to accommodate the arrival and the departure of the Presidential aircraft and while the Presidential entourage is on the airport.
(b) Requesting traffic, by NOTAM, to voluntarily conform to restrictions in the vicinity of an airport. The NOTAM shall give details of the restrictions and should be cleared by the advance group. It shall avoid any reference to Presidential activities and shall be issued at least 8 hours in advance.
EXAMPLE-
ALL TRAFFIC CAN EXPECT DELAYS FROM (date/ time) TO (date/time) AND FROM (date/time) TO (date/time).
(c) The time will normally be 15 minutes before to 15 minutes after the arrival and the departure time.
c. If the advance group determines that mandatory airspace restrictions are required, the Washington headquarters office of the U.S. Government agency responsible for the protection of the personage concerned will contact FAA Headquarters in accordance with established procedures and request the necessary regulatory action. The air traffic manager shall advise the Service Area office of the regulatory proposal. (See 14 CFR Section 91.141 and FAAO JO 7610.4, Special Operations.)
NOTE-
The actions established herein do not affect the provisions of 14 CFR Section 91.113(b); i.e., an aircraft in distress has the right-of-way over all other air traffic.
REFERENCE-
FAAO 7930.2, Para 7-1-1, FDC NOTAM Categories.
d. To ensure radio communications and radar service, the following should be coordinated with the advance group:
1. All aircraft in the flight should be assigned a discrete transponder code. As a minimum, the lead aircraft and the aircraft containing the President should turn their transponders on when flying in formation. In the event of a formation breakup, all aircraft should squawk their assigned code to facilitate auto-acquire.
2. Normal frequencies are preferred over discrete frequencies.
NOTE-
Secret Service personnel will transmit progress reports on the Presidential entourage to the affected tower as soon as possible.
e. Prior to the actual operation, action shall be taken to ensure that all air traffic specialists who will be on duty during the arrival and departure of the Presidential aircraft are thoroughly briefed concerning the arrangements pertaining to the operation, including movements of the Presidential entourage while on the airport.
f. At military airports, the base commander will determine the restriction or delay of flight operations into that airport and the need to issue a NOTAM. He/she should coordinate his/her actions with the appropriate FAA facilities if air traffic will be affected.
5-1-2. MONITORING THE PRESIDENTIAL AIRCRAFT FLIGHT (Page 5-1-2)
a. Advance scheduled movement information of Presidential aircraft received from the White House shall be distributed to the air traffic manager of each facility through which the Presidential aircraft will transit. The air traffic manager will be notified of the scheduled movement by the appropriate Service Area office or, when time critical, by national headquarters through the ATCSCC.
b. Presidential aircraft shall be aurally and visually monitored by a supervisory specialist/controller- in-charge (CIC) from departure to arrival. The air traffic manager of each facility through which the Presidential aircraft transits shall ensure that a supervisory specialist/CIC aurally and visually monitors the aircraft while in the facility's airspace. The supervisory specialist/CIC shall:
1. Be present at each sector/position providing ATC service to the Presidential aircraft from the flight's entry in the facility's airspace until the flight exits the facility's airspace.
2. Aurally and visually monitor the flight to ensure that separation, control, and coordination are accomplished.
NOTE-
Supervisors and managers at FAA Contract Towers (FCT) are qualified to perform the duties required in para 5-1-2.
5-1-3. USE OF FAA COMMUNICATIONS CIRCUITS (Page 5-1-2)
Operations personnel shall expedite the movement of Presidential aircraft and related control messages when traffic conditions and communications facilities permit. Honor any request of the pilot concerning movement of the aircraft if the request can be fulfilled in accordance with existing control procedures. Also, honor any request of the pilot, Office of the Vice President, Secret Service, or White House Staff for the relay, via FAA communications circuits, of information regarding the movement or proposed movement of the aircraft.
5-1-4. SECURITY OF INFORMATION (Page 5-1-2)
FAA personnel shall not release any information concerning Presidential flights to anyone outside the FAA except properly identified White House staff members, Secret Service personnel, or appropriate military authorities. Any inquiries from the press or others for information regarding the movement of these aircraft shall be referred to the White House, the Secret Service, the Air Force, or their representatives at either the point of departure or arrival. These security measures also apply to information regarding the movement of Presidential or Vice Presidential family aircraft.
5-1-5. MOVEMENT INFORMATION (Page 5-1-3)
Honor any request of the pilot concerning movement of the Presidential aircraft if it can be fulfilled in accordance with existing control procedures. Also, honor any request of the pilot, Secret Service, White House Staff, or Office of the Vice President for the relay, via FAA communications circuits or Defense Switching Network (DSN), of information regarding the movement or the proposed movement of these aircraft.
5-1-6. COORDINATION (Page 5-1-3)
ARTCCs shall call CARF direct for ALTRV approval on any Presidential aircraft international flight plan received less than 4 hours before departure.
5-1-7. RESCUE SUPPORT AIRCRAFT (Page 5-1-3)
When rescue support aircraft are used, the aircraft will depart from various bases and will file flight plans which will place the aircraft on tracks in proximity of the Presidential aircraft for contingency purposes. Orbits may also be used by the rescue support aircraft. These aircraft will be identified in the remarks section of the flight plan as Rescue for purposes of radio and interphone communications.
REFERENCE-
FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 2-4-20, Aircraft Identification.
I hope this information and links sheds some light on the fact that Air Force 1 goes nowhere without the President KNOWING AND APPROVING IT!!!
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:57:01 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: My Favorite Headache
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:57:52 PM PDT
by
MeekMom
(http://www.soroswatch.com/)
To: CondorFlight
“Is it possible that this wasnt a photo op”
Nah, it was a photo op. These are done quite often but it would not be a secret.
The difference here is that the Obama is a complete idiot.
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:58:38 PM PDT
by
Never on my watch
(The scientist who would have discovered the cure to AIDS in the Amazon was aborted in January 1978)
To: April Lexington
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:58:46 PM PDT
by
MeekMom
(http://www.soroswatch.com/)
To: Gomez
There is more to this story than just a photo op. I would like to see the manifest and find out who was on the aircraft. Could be a big time crony of Obama or Emanuel on a joy ride.
They couldn't keep this "secret" when you have the plane and fighter aircraft flying at low levels over a metro area of more than 14 million people. The only "secret" would be the time of day. Of course Obama is "furious" and accepting no blame, as usual.
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:58:48 PM PDT
by
kabar
To: CondorFlight
obama claims it was for the DOD website. Funny, but the Defense department never did things like this under W, or Clinton, or Bush 41, or Reagan....or any other administration. I’m unspeakably offended that obama wants to blame the military for this.
The photo op thing is sounding less likely all the time. In any case, I don’t think many people are going to believe the “I didn’t know anything about it” jazz.
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posted on
04/28/2009 2:59:02 PM PDT
by
ElayneJ
To: Crazieman
So the POTUS didn’t know where the plane was nor what was being done with it. And the Mayor of NYC was not told what was about to take place that somebody knew would cause TERROR for thousands of NYers. WHO runs this country? WHO is running America’s largest city? Is anyone in charge? And has anyone been fired?
Where are the adults????????????????????????
To: Crazieman
they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor's office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out Someone has to be fired for such arrogance. I could understand if 0 was on the plane, but he wasn't. It was a 747 flying around Manhattan with FIGHTERS chasing it.
What numbnutz thought this was a great idea and for what purpose?
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posted on
04/28/2009 3:00:31 PM PDT
by
Malsua
To: Never on my watch
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posted on
04/28/2009 3:01:15 PM PDT
by
MeekMom
(http://www.soroswatch.com/)
To: Crazieman
Is there a website where we can go look at all the previous souvenir photos?
To: CondorFlight
Is it possible that this wasnt a photo op, but a sightseeing flyover by some VIP (foreign or domestic)hence the need for F-16s to accompany it, and the lack of prior public announcement (for security)?That certainly sounds plausible. An 0bama version of the Lincoln Bedroom fiasco. Paying back some high-rolling donor with the grand tour. And maybe the personage is muslim or stinks in some other way we are not fit to know; our provincial little minds cannot appreciate these things, thus the secrecy.
It makes sense. Now if only we could nail it.
To: Crazieman
I’m waiting for Sen. Leaky to advocate against prosecuting James Johnston at the FAA, but going after his superiors who ordered the photos.
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posted on
04/28/2009 3:02:19 PM PDT
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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