listen stooopid... you bomb/rebomb ALL their electric generation facilities and their refinery and make them live in the dark for the next five or ten years till they get their mind right. it's NOT rocket science
Posted on 04/30/2009 3:56:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
It’s too late. And probably has been for a long time.
Gates told a Senate panel that a military option would only delay Iran’s nuclear ambitions and drive the program further underground, making it more difficult to monitor, he said.
He said the better option would be for the United States and its allies to convince Iran that building a nuclear program would start an arms race that would leave the country less secure.
“Their security interests are actually badly served by trying to have nuclear weapons,” Gates said. “They will start a nuclear arms race in the Middle East and they will be less secure at the end than they are now.”…
Clinton and Gates told the panel the United States and its allies should pressure Iran with tougher sanctions.
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Gates does not understand these people.
Remember when Imanutjob said, "Muslims LOVE death!"?
The best interest of the Islamic Republic of Iran is Martyrdom for all. Nuclear weapons in the Middle East, work toward that goal.
Gates is scary. To us.
Interesting how the Left has gone from saying that we have the ability to kill every living creature on Earth, to saying that its impossible using weapons to keep the Iranians from getting the bomb.
Bombing stopped Japan from building nukes.
Is this fact or his opinion? And why would an intelligent person make such a public statement. Seems to be a very poor way of doing business. Or is it just political BS?
listen stooopid... you bomb/rebomb ALL their electric generation facilities and their refinery and make them live in the dark for the next five or ten years till they get their mind right. it's NOT rocket science
Maybe bombing them won’t stop them, but it’ll sure slow them down.
Even more effective if bombing is performed with small tactical nukes.
The Israelis, all by themselves can stop Iran from getting nukes. Not saying it would be an easy or popular thing to do...but it can be done. I gave my thoughts re this in a thread about 2 weeks ago.
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The Iranian installations that are in bunkers are what really need destroying to stop their nuclear program.
Nuclear bunker busters might be used, but even a 400kt device like our B61-11 might have difficulty penetrating to a sufficient depth to contain the blast and thus prevent massive fallout when the blast breached the surface and spewed many tons of radioactive debris into the sky. And although a 400kt or even 1 megaton warhead is a very powerful thing...it is quite weak underground when the target for destruction is a fortified bunker. It would be the shock wave that would need to destroy the bunker and for that a 400kt device would need to detonate very close to the bunker, perhaps as close as 400-700 feet. The problem is that even though you know where the entrances to the bunker are the actual bunker might be anywhere within a mile or so from those entrances. This means you would need to somehow get a precise location of the bunker by placement of seismic sensors ahead of time (listening for the sounds from industrial machinery and determining where the sound originates from)
A much more promising attack would be to destroy all the entrances and exits to such an installation and then control the area for an extended time.
The actual installation itself would remain intact unless a fool had designed it poorly. The engineers and workers would soon be dead, but the equipment would remain untouched.
To hold such an area from the types of assaults the Iranians could bring to bear would require creating your own underground fortifications near the entrances to the bunker.
Massive mine laying would be required to protect against human-wave attacks such as were used in the Iran/Iraq war.
Iranian missile attacks would be totally ineffective against even hastily made Israeli underground defenses and could be dismissed as a real threat.
Chem/biological weapons would be used and so preparations would need to be made for protection.
It might in extreme circumstances be necessary to use neutron weapons to keep attacking forces at bay... this would require the Israelis to first actually possess such weapons (likely) and be willing to use them in extreme circumstances (also likely), they would also need to be able to protect themselves from the heavy neutron bombardment...this can be done but is not an easy thing to engineer quickly in the field so preparation would need to be underway immediately upon taking control of the area.
The neutron weapons would be able to immediately incapacitate attackers (even inside tanks) inside a blast radius of about 1/3 mile with a radiation dose of roughly 80 Gy...after such a dose only a very few ‘walking deadmen’ would be able to remain active, and those for a very short time.
The small radiation weapons would release the force of about 1kt compared to a conventional nuclear weapon...this is a very small yield and would pose no threat at all to Israeli soldiers in even rudimentary underground shelter.
The Israeli force would need to be supplied with food and other essentials for a possible extended time...long enough to locate and destroy the Iranian underground installation by tunneling and then placing appropriate charges.
This would certainly call for a dedicated force of extraordinary men....but such men do exist and I’m certain Israel has enough of them to do the job.
Remember when Imanutjob said, “Muslims LOVE death!”?
While the above may be theoretically true, some Muslims, such as Osama Bin Ladin have been crawling into caves to avoid it.
However, your main point, that Gates doesn’t know his keester from a cork pistol when it comes to Islamic mindsets is right on the money. Guys like Imanutjob INTEND to push the world to the BRINK of destruction, via nukes or any other way, in an attempt to bring back THE 12th IMMAM, as they refer to their counterfiet version of The Lord Jesus Christ, who REALLY IS going to come back........
1Th 4:13 Our friends, we want you to know the truth about those who have died, so that you will not be sad, as are those who have no hope.
1Th 4:14 We believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will take back with Jesus those who have died believing in him.
1Th 4:15 W_ hat we are teaching you now is the Lord’s teaching: we who are alive on the day the Lord comes will not go ahead of those who have died.
1Th 4:16 There will be the shout of command, the archangel’s voice, the sound of God’s trumpet, and the Lord himself will come down from heaven. Those who have died believing in Christ will rise to life first;
1Th 4:17 then we who are living at that time will be gathered up along with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 So then, encourage one another with these words.
Israeli bombs stopped Iraq from building nukes.
I thought that the location of the bunkers were known. That would explain why the Israelis have held off for so long.
The 8th Air Force & RAF Bomber Command did a pretty good job of stopping Hitler from getting The Bomb...
Bush’s fault.
It worked with Iraq.
What alternative is there?
Give them a pass and wish them well with their endeavors?
This administration doesn't create a warm and fuzzy feeling at all.
********He said the better option would be for the United States and its allies to convince Iran that building a nuclear program would start an arms race that would leave the country less secure*********
This guy has been sniffing too much of the Obama flatulence/
Rots O’ Ruck with this idea dipstick.
Yeaqh, right. Just as it hurt North Korea where we are offering food aid, lightwater nuclear reactors, and other bribes. And armed with nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to places like Japan and eventually the West Coast of the US, we will have to be very careful in how we deal with them.
A nuclear armed Iran will change the security situation in the region making other countries less secure and more vulnerable to Iranian influence. And then there is the issue of non-state actor surrogates who can be used to deliver such weapons.
Yeah, that was my first thought exactly. Things like MAD mean nothing to these people, they welcome death and turmoil as they believe it will usher in the 12th Imam.
Gates needs to get a handle on who he’s dealing with. The only way to keep them from using it is to keep them from getting it.
It’s just the “logic” of gun control (civilian disarmament) scaled up to ridiculous proportions.
Of course the flip side is that we are disarming, and destroying our Nuclear Weapons. Soon they will have them and we will not.
World Sanctions would make more sense,
Honestly, how did this moron become SECDEF under Bush?
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