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Romney keeps his name in the mix [for 2012] [cites RomneyCare as one of "the best ideas"]
The Boston Globe - Political Intelligence ^ | 2009-05-04 | Foon Rhee

Posted on 05/04/2009 2:31:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney headlined congressional Republicans' big new policy conclave over the weekend, stressing the need to listen to real Americans, but also appearing to slap a potential rival for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination.

At the National Council for a New America's first "conversation" in Arlington, Va., Romney, who ran for the Republican nomination last year and has kept his name in the conversation for 2012, joined House Republican Whip Eric Cantor and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush in presiding over the panel.

"I’ve learned that when you sit in a position of responsibility as you do now and as we did once, you typically get the best ideas that really make a difference from people that you’re serving," Romney said, citing his experience helping pass the Bay State's universal healthcare plan.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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1 posted on 05/04/2009 2:31:40 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

No thank you


2 posted on 05/04/2009 2:32:19 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: rabscuttle385

When will they ever learn?
When will they eeeeeever learn?


3 posted on 05/04/2009 2:32:45 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I swallowed hard to vote for him when it was between him and McCain; however I will not vote for him again. Too much ambition, too little substance; too little principle.


4 posted on 05/04/2009 2:33:52 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: BufordP; ejonesie22; AmericanSphinx71; 383rr; jenk; big'ol_freeper; mountainbunny; DirtyHarryY2K; ..

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5 posted on 05/04/2009 2:34:01 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

This National Council for a New America is starting to sound like as big a hoax as global warming.


6 posted on 05/04/2009 2:34:17 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Diogenesis

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7 posted on 05/04/2009 2:34:37 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
stressing the need to listen to real Americans

..????... OK Slick..listen PALIN PALIN PALIN....get that Slick?...NO MORE MCCAINS, NO MORE MCCAINS, NO MORE MCCAINS...listening Slick?

8 posted on 05/04/2009 2:35:52 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: rabscuttle385
I have only two words for you Mit but I can't post them here!

(I'm betting readers will figure it out.)

9 posted on 05/04/2009 2:37:13 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: rabscuttle385

Liberals do love their boondoggles, even when all the evidence shows they are total failures with ever-spiraling budget shortalls followed by tax increases.

We need to never allow these folks to self-proclaim the conservative title, and we need to drive these sheiz-bags off like the vermin they are.


10 posted on 05/04/2009 2:37:42 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Doogle

Palin still needs to EARN it. She has to show us a solid track record, and she has to prove to the public she has substance.

Mitt will never have a track record NOR substance.


11 posted on 05/04/2009 2:38:18 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Actually when I had to fill out the proof of health care for the 4 months I lived in Mass and it was rejected 3 times by the department of revenue I was done with Myth Romney.


12 posted on 05/04/2009 2:40:11 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott government communist tractor factories!)
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To: rabscuttle385
[cites RomneyCare as one of "the best ideas"]

"RomneyCare" sucks right out loud.

13 posted on 05/04/2009 2:40:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Bigun

Pou*d sa*d?


14 posted on 05/04/2009 2:41:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: rabscuttle385

Mitt Romney is so...gay.


16 posted on 05/04/2009 2:42:36 PM PDT by FreepShop1 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: Bigun

“I have only two words for you Mit, but I can’t post them here!”

Well, you could post the “you”. Or perhaps the “off”.


17 posted on 05/04/2009 2:43:43 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: rabscuttle385

He is bragging about MA healthcare? Give me a break! The liberal is coming out on this listening whatever they are doing. Wouldn’t vote for anyone that is part of this group.


18 posted on 05/04/2009 2:43:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010!)
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To: rabscuttle385
"These are the people of America that have these ideas. We want to share these ideas with one another and make sure that we’re laying out a vision and a plan for America that makes our lives and the lives of our kids better."

Spoken like a true Big Government Conservative. How about cutting taxes and government and getting the heck out of our lives.
19 posted on 05/04/2009 2:45:21 PM PDT by microgood
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To: rabscuttle385

“I love [government] mandates, mandates work!” - Mitt Romney - not in front of a bunch of liberals, not in Massachusetts, but during a Republican presidential debate.

If there is ever an indication that someone has absolutely abandoned every principle that Ronald Reagan brought to the party, and brought the nation together to give the Democrats their biggest defeat ever, this is certainly one of the most obvious ones.


20 posted on 05/04/2009 2:45:32 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: arbooz

Hey, I heard Benedict Arnold was framed. Don’t be comparing Artlen Spector to that fine gentleman.


21 posted on 05/04/2009 2:45:55 PM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Like a bad penny, the Boston Straggler keeps returning.


22 posted on 05/04/2009 2:47:56 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Liberals love the average American the same way that foxes love the average chicken.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Government is not the solution; it IS the problem! ~~Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan warned of the dangers of government controlled or provided health care systems. Says it’s socialism. And it will destroy our freedom. And he’s 100% correct!

RomneyCare is a big government socialist boondoggle and this rat bastard is stupid enough to brag about it.

To hell with Mitt Romney and the socialist horse he’s riding!!


23 posted on 05/04/2009 2:49:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, this is a nail in his political coffin (should be anyway) with the MR worshiper/lovers/supporters, if he thinks/believes his health care was a good/best idea.
He has great hair and teeth but I am really begin to think he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


24 posted on 05/04/2009 2:50:20 PM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Election2008 Spoiler, GOP backstaber, Mitt Romney chortles,
as he inflicts his socialized medicine (HillaryCARE=ROmneyCARE)
upon the Massachusetts citizens without any of their votes.


"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"Patients were allegedly left screaming in pain and drinking from flower vases on a nightmare hospital ward.
Between 400 and 1,200 more people died than would have been expected at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust over three years, a damning Healthcare Commission report said.
The watchdog's investigation found inadequately trained staff who were too few in number, junior doctors left alone in charge at night and patients left without food, drink or medication as their operations were repeatedly cancelled.
Patients were left in pain or forced to sit in soiled bedding for hours at a time and were not given their regular medication, the Commission heard.
Receptionists with no medical training were expected to assess patients coming in to A&E, some of whom needed urgent care.
Sir Bruce Keogh, medical director of the NHS, said there had been a "gross and terrible breach" of patients' trust and a "complete failure of leadership".
The Healthcare Commission's chairman Sir Ian Kennedy said the investigation followed concerns about a higher than normal death rate at the Trust, which senior managers could not explain.
He said: "The resulting report is a shocking story. Our report tells a story of appalling standards of care and chaotic systems for looking after patients. These are words I have not previously used in any report.
"There were inadequacies in almost every stage of caring for patients. There was no doubt that patients will have suffered and some of them will have died as a result."
Julie Bailey, 47, was so concerned about the care being given to her 86-year-old mother Bella at Stafford Hospital that she and her relatives slept in a chair at her bedside for eight weeks.
She said: "We saw patients drinking out of..."


"Paramedics told: 'Let accident victims die if they want to' in new row over patient rights (UK)"
Health Service paramedics have been told not to resuscitate terminally-ill patients who register on a controversial new database to say they want to die.
It has been set up by the ambulance service in London for hundreds of people who have only a few months to live so that they may register their 'death wishes' in advance.
It is believed to be the first in the country, but other trusts around the country are expected to follow suit to comply with Government guidelines which state that patients' wishes should be taken into account, even at the point of death.
Patients' groups and doctors have welcomed the scheme, but it has met opposition from pro-life groups who say it violates the sanctity of life.
The system would come into play if a cancer patient, for example, was in serious pain and rang 999 for help to alleviate the suffering.
But if the paramedics arrived and the patient was close to death, he or she would not be resuscitated if such a request was registered on the database.
This would also be the case if a patient on the database was being transferred between hospitals, and had a heart attack.
Dominica Roberts from the Pro-Life Alliance said: 'This is very sad and very dangerous. It's another step along the slippery slope, at the bottom of which is euthanasia as we see in Holland. 'Paramedics should be there to save lives. They should not be there to let patients die. The medical profession should not agree with someone's belief that their life is worthless.'"


"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
"Three years ago, the former Massachusetts Governor had the inadvertent good sense to create the "universal" health-care program that the White House and Congress now want to inflict on the entire country.
It is proving to be instructive, as Mr. Romney's foresight previews what President Obama, Max Baucus, Ted Kennedy and Pete Stark are cooking up for everyone else.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis, Governor Deval Patrick and his Democratic colleagues are starting to move down the path that government health plans always follow when spending collides with reality -- i.e., price controls.
As costs continue to rise, the inevitable results are coverage restrictions and waiting periods. It was only a matter of time.

They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006.

What really whipped along RomneyCare were claims that health care would be less expensive if everyone were covered.
But reducing costs while increasing access are irreconcilable issues.
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."


A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay State’s ‘Grand Experiment’ Fails [RomneyCare]
"The Daily News Record, Harrisonburg, Va. - 2009-03-31 "
"For folks increasingly leery of President Obama’s plan to radically overhaul America’s health-care system,
or 17 percent of the nation’s economy, all this could hardly have come at a better time —
that is, fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romney’s brainchild, Massachusetts’ “grand experiment” in “universal” health care."

"Initiated on Mr. Romney’s gubernatorial watch in 2006, this “experiment” has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
“RomneyCare” is threatening to bankrupt the state. Budgeted for Fiscal Year 2010 at $880 million,
or 7.3 percent more than a year ago, this plan, aimed at providing low- or no-cost health coverage to roughly 165,000 residents,
has caused Massachusetts’ overall expenditures on all health-related programs to jump an astounding 42 percent since 2006.

So what does Mr. Romney’s successor, Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick, propose as a remedy for these skyrocketing costs?
Well, whaddya think? The standard litany of prescriptions (no pun intended) — price controls and spending caps, for a start, and then, again predictably, waiting periods and limitations on coverage.
As in Europe and Canada, so too in Massachusetts. And, we feel certain, everyone from Mr. Romney to Mr. Patrick said, “It would never happen here.”
But then, such things are inevitable when best-laid plans, with all their monstrous costs, run smack-dab into fiscal reality.


"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"

25 posted on 05/04/2009 2:52:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: rabscuttle385

Is he going to leave the Mormon Church?


26 posted on 05/04/2009 2:52:30 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: rabscuttle385

Slick Willard would’ve been completely destroyed had he faced 0bama in the general. He is delusional if he thinks he can win in ‘12.


27 posted on 05/04/2009 2:52:41 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Palin/Bachman '12)
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To: Hazwaste

Boston Straggler! I like that moniker when applied to ol’ Mitt. I particularly like the initials. They apply to anything Mitt says.


28 posted on 05/04/2009 2:53:50 PM PDT by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Pass.

No wait.

fold.


29 posted on 05/04/2009 2:54:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: raptor29
Well, you could post the “you”. Or perhaps the “off”.

You are right and either of those will do nicely!

However, I now realize that there are two that I can post that would carry the message just as well. The are:

Sarah Palin

30 posted on 05/04/2009 2:55:08 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: rabscuttle385

......Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.....

If he was good for Massachusetts, he is bad for America. If they liked him, he is very bad. Being saaociated with that state is a black mark


31 posted on 05/04/2009 2:56:12 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: rabscuttle385
"...you typically get the best ideas that really make a difference from people that you’re serving," Romney said..."

Which is crucial, so that you can make sure those ideas get crushed first, before the people discover them and demand they be implemented.

32 posted on 05/04/2009 2:56:38 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Where your nightmares end...”

Kinda ironic how that movie is really only remembered now because of Michael Jackson’s sappy (though beautiful) man/rat love song.


33 posted on 05/04/2009 2:58:33 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: rabscuttle385

The good news is that the Boston Globe will cease to exist in a few weeks.


34 posted on 05/04/2009 3:00:17 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: rabscuttle385

Some of you may want to call these A holes and tell them to pound sand..............http://republicanwhip.house.gov/newsroom/2009/04/national-council-for-a-new-america-formed.html


36 posted on 05/04/2009 3:00:38 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: rabscuttle385

Why should we worry about the socialist Democrats if the socialist RINO Republicans advance the very same socialist agenda?

Screw Romney!! Screw his new Council of Socialist America! Screw the RINOS!! This should be the political death of Romney, Mccain, Bush and any Republican stupid enough to get anywhere near it!!

What this situation calls for is MORE TEA!!

Rebellion is brewing!!


37 posted on 05/04/2009 3:01:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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...[cites RomneyCare as one of "the best ideas"]...

Sure. RomneyCare is one of the best ideas in all of the pig-ignorant filthy closeted-socialist stiff-necked Trojan-horse-progressive anti-freedom proto-fascist nightmare infernal fever swamps in all of satan's netherdomain.

Other than that, it's a great idea.

38 posted on 05/04/2009 3:02:48 PM PDT by Petronski (Learn about the 'cytokine storm.')
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To: al baby
Romney is NOT a conservative and barely a Republican.

His RomneyCare is one of the most Socialist plans that would make Obama and Hillary happy to link up with him.

It also does NOT work!

No Romney/No Way!

(p.s. his religion has NOTHING to do with it - he was pro-abortion, pro-gay before he was against it.)

39 posted on 05/04/2009 3:02:52 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: rabscuttle385
Romneycare best idea huh...

So much for the Romneybot argument its only bad now that the “liberals” have gotten their hands on it...

Nail meet coffin..

40 posted on 05/04/2009 3:03:01 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: ejonesie22

Speaking of Romneybots seems that they are rapidly being over run by crickets for that is all I am hearing for a response...


41 posted on 05/04/2009 3:06:14 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Mitt Romney is a more subtle version of Arlen Specter with better hair...)
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To: al baby

Believing anything from the Boston Globe.
Dissing RINOs.
Badmouthing the Republican Party.
Talking someone into running who really isn’t that interested in running.

Seems we have been through this senario once before.
And it will have the same outcome I fear.


42 posted on 05/04/2009 3:09:26 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

I was not happy with operation kaos either


43 posted on 05/04/2009 3:10:53 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: rabscuttle385

Take your basic John McCain, peel off years of honorable military service and unimaginable suffering, add a few inches at the head, and you got a Mitt Romney.


44 posted on 05/04/2009 3:11:16 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty has become Kitty Genovese.)
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To: broncobilly

No doubt, you Mittwits will do your best to make sure of that.


45 posted on 05/04/2009 3:11:31 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wish the liberal MSM would quit pushing for Romney to run in the GOP. Romney needs to follow Arlen, and switch to the party that shares his values.


46 posted on 05/04/2009 3:12:17 PM PDT by DannyTN ( Impeach and Deport)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I have found that people who are so obcessed by hate rarely bring about anything uselful.


47 posted on 05/04/2009 3:13:32 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: Bigun

Yep, Sarah is the only non-sellout we have going for us right now. And she has been hardened by the events of the past year and has not backed down. She’s going to be tough the next go ‘round. I’m just not sure it will matter, given with each passing day, ACORN personnel lay further groundwork to steal our elections in every state.


48 posted on 05/04/2009 3:13:35 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Bigun

$50 copay abortions.


49 posted on 05/04/2009 3:14:14 PM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: broncobilly

I’ve found that people who engage in idol worship don’t have opinions that I hold in high regard.


50 posted on 05/04/2009 3:14:47 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We are at an awkward stage: too late to fix things from within and too early to shoot the bastards.)
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