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Hoping Obama's place of birth truly was in Hawaii
The Victoria Advocate ^
| May 5, 2009
| Peter Aparicio
Posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: LUV W
Not lame. I appreciate the good company.
61
posted on
05/06/2009 8:34:32 PM PDT
by
unkus
To: LUV W
theOne does not have the same bone structure of his supposed father, but look at the mouth on davis and theOne....looks more like him then his supposed real father.
ok, I will remove my tin foil hat now and go back to being a gun clinging religious nut now.......
62
posted on
05/06/2009 8:35:02 PM PDT
by
tioga
To: Cincinna
“”He may be evil, but he is not stupid.””
we know that ‘cause he was tired or teleprompter wasn’t keepin’ up...
To: unkus
64
posted on
05/06/2009 8:36:27 PM PDT
by
luvie
(Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
To: MHGinTN
Not sure. You’re assuming the people there today will act exactly like the people there under Clinton. I don’t know if that’s a safe assumption to make.
65
posted on
05/06/2009 8:37:02 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.
The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.
Listen to the
recording here
The quote is around 12:35, so if you dont have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:
Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born
Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive
Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there
Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.
Here is an
abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.
It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --youll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.
First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.
Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.
He used the same technique on the question of Obamas birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."
Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.
Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.
Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference.
Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..
They are the same.
Subsequently, the
Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.
"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."
While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is
a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.
Again here is a
pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:
HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.
Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.
The American Thinker explains
here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)
Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
66
posted on
05/06/2009 8:37:12 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: AndyTheBear
To the committed left, the Constitution is a cheap whore.
_______________________________________
To them....it was written by a bunch of old, dead, white guys. It’s irrelevant.
67
posted on
05/06/2009 8:37:19 PM PDT
by
RushIsMyTeddyBear
(Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
To: tioga
I did see more of a resemblance to Davis, yes. Interesting
theory. I hope some day we’ll find out the truth. Not holding
my breath on that one,though!
68
posted on
05/06/2009 8:38:21 PM PDT
by
luvie
(Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
To: atomicweeder
that’s the other reasonable explanation
69
posted on
05/06/2009 8:39:03 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: Venturer
Spending tax payer’s money is no big deal to Oops....Look at what he spent on Scare Force One.
70
posted on
05/06/2009 8:39:11 PM PDT
by
hoosiermama
(Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
To: warsaw44
Tow things to note in the below release: it doesn't say Lingle actually saw the essence of material being held in the vault, and it does emphasize that the material is not seal by the governor, nor is it being handled any differently than all other such docuemtns in the HI vaults. For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obamas official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii.
###
For more information, contact: Janice Okubo http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
71
posted on
05/06/2009 8:39:24 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: MHGinTN
“do you think the CIA would do their best to produce the forgery the affirmative action potus figure would need to stop the conflict between orders and authority?”
If you think the CIA has any love for Obama, your situational awareness has been taking a nap. No, I’m afraid there no more love left for Obama at the CIA. Do a little review on recent events and I think you’ll agree (but maybe not).
72
posted on
05/06/2009 8:40:35 PM PDT
by
Habibi
("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
To: tioga
I think its quite plausable that the O’s father is Frank Marshall. I don’t see why its such a big deal however, that he doesn’t show that.
73
posted on
05/06/2009 8:41:45 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: Habibi
They don’t have to even respect him as potus to do what will garner them more influence and leverage. Think about it ... when they produce the materials, they have him by the proverbial balls, son.
74
posted on
05/06/2009 8:43:46 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: LUV W
Frank Marshall Davis was a well known black American communist and sex pervert, circa ‘50s and 60’s. Google the name, follow the leads and you might even run across some nude photos of Stanley Anne, purportedly taken by Davis.
75
posted on
05/06/2009 8:45:12 PM PDT
by
Blado
(''crush the bourgeoisie...grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation'' - V.I. Lenin)
To: Cincinna
Agreed.
Keep the Right chasing this and he can brand us all as kooks and the MSM will go along without hesitation.
Meanwhile, the Feds (under the President's watch) will own 2 of the big 3 automakers along with scores of banks. The newspapers may not be far behind.
I will also agree that it is highly irregular that we haven't seen the assorted documents that most of the former office holders have been more than proud to flaunt, but we will be castigated unless we can prove misguidance “beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt.”
76
posted on
05/06/2009 8:46:40 PM PDT
by
GrouchoTex
(...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
To: Cincinna
Obamas mother really got around, if you get my drift, and travelled in the same circles as Malcolm X....possible? Possible, not likely I think.
However I doubt we'll ever really know either, since absent a DNA test, all we can tell is that whoever the sperm donor was, he had at least some African genes. IMHO, Barry looks like his maternal grandfather, with a heck of a suntan, slightly fuller lips and broader nose. Even his hairline is that of Stanley Ann's father.
77
posted on
05/06/2009 8:48:10 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: atomicweeder
“The reason that Obama is hiding his birth certificate is that he is son of Frank Marshall Davis.”
No question about it.
To: ckilmer
he wrote the book......”dreams of my father”.......he can’t backpeddle now. he’s trapped.
79
posted on
05/06/2009 8:50:08 PM PDT
by
tioga
To: Blado
That makes two of us — son of the Communist would not play well after all this time declaring his father was Kenyan.
80
posted on
05/06/2009 8:52:48 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
( BOOMER SOONER! Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010!)
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