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Chris Matthews Portrays GOP as Anti-Science (Challenges Mike Pence about Evolution & Climate Change)
Newsbusters ^ | 5/7/2009 | Colleen Raezler

Posted on 05/07/2009 8:00:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Chris Matthews apparently thinks the GOP is just one big bag of crazy.

MSNBC's "Hardball" host challenged Rep. Mike Pence (R-Indiana) on the Republican Party's commitment to addressing climate change during the May 5 broadcast. Matthews claimed to Pence that the GOP is not passionate about environmentalism because, "There are people that really are against science in your party who really do question not just the science behind the climate change but the science behind evolutionary fact, that we were taught - you and I - in our biology books. They don't accept the scientific method. They believe in belief itself."

Matthews prefaced his argument with, "There are people on your side of the argument who believe that all the prehistoric bones we've discovered in this world, all the dinosaur bones and all that stuff was somehow planted there by liberal scientists to make the case against the Bible."

Pence called Matthews' argument "an interesting straw man" and a "caricature."

Matthews then confronted Pence about evolution, "I think you believe in evolution but you're afraid to say so because your conservative constituency might find that offensive." Matthews continued harping on Pence's belief that "God created the heavens and the Earth, the seas and all that is in them" by saying, "you don't believe that, you don't, you don't take a fundamentalist view of, of the seven days of creation do you?"

Later Matthews offered unnamed "polls that show that a huge percentage of the American people don't believe in evolution ... don't believe in climate change" as proof that the GOP is not "passionately committed to science or to fighting global warming or to dealing with the scientific facts we live with."

And what would a "Hardball" broadcast be without the obligatory swipes at well-known conservatives? Matthew told Pence, "The troubled is that your, your Rush-, your Mt. Rushmore now includes Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and these characters that don't share either your intellect or your honesty."

Wednesday's edition of "Hardball" featured another discussion of evolution, this time with former Republican presidential hopeful and representative Tom Tancredo. Matthews repeated his characterization of the Republican party as anti-science:

Let me talk to you about what I think are the extremes on this position. One extreme would be there is no God, it`s all sort of random, we all ended up here, we don`t even know why we`re here. Right? That would be a random totally secular view of everything. I don`t think you or I are at that end.

The other end would be, "It's like it's written down in the Bible, we don't have to figure out science, it's all there." And if you really get into the Bible and you're totally literal about it -- I don't want to knock anybody's belief -- you get to the point of having to deny all the fossils out there because they all pre-dated 4,000 years of written history in the Bible, back to Adam and Eve, through the prophets all the way back. And then you have -- then you get into that crazy idea, Well, there's a bunch of liberals that went around and buried all these bones in the ground to make it look like there was ancient history.

Matthews followed up this argument by saying, "Well, I don't think most people believe that. I think except the fact there were dinosaurs that were around here millions of years ago. It wasn't covered in the Bible, et cetera, et cetera."

So if Matthews doesn't think most people believe the ideas he put forth, why bring it up at all?

Right. Because it makes the GOP look crazy.

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Colleen Raezler is a research assistant at the Culture and Media Institute


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chrismatthews; evolution; mikepence; science
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Watch the video of the interview here :

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/colleen-raezler/2009/05/07/chris-matthews-portrays-gop-anti-science

1 posted on 05/07/2009 8:00:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Intelligent Design site, Uncommon Descent, had this to say :

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/left-versus-right-science/

“This may come as a surprise to many of you, but Science, at least according to Chris Matthews, is a Democrat thing. Personally, I was unaware that there was a “deomcrat” way to do science and a “republican” way to do science. Someone might explain to me how that works. Is there a “left” scientific method and a “right” scientific method? Matthews certainly seems to think so! How ignorant and disingenous of him! (But, we’re talking about Chris Matthews here, the most misinformed commentator on the networks as far as I’m concerned)

Its worth noting how Matthews tries to build a straw man about Young Earth Creationism (YEC) and then claim that there a “many” in the Republican party who hold that view and who are “anti-science”. Matthews demonstrates admirably the left’s derision of anyone who would dare question evolution, stem cell research, global warming and who knows what else. Matthews appears clueless about the real debates in science about all these things, and ignores completely any of the moral questions involved, pretending, I guess, that they don’t even exist!

I’ll grant that Mike Pence is not exactly the best spokesperson for Science and scientific issues, but trying to tie him to YEC and Fundamentalism only shows how shallow guys like Matthew and those on the left really are. Matthews did a great job of making a fool of himself…but then, he does that almost every night. That’s why MSNBC has the lowest rating of all the news networks.”


2 posted on 05/07/2009 8:03:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Chris Matthews uses the “tinglie leg” method of determination ... if his leg tingles then it must be right ...


3 posted on 05/07/2009 8:09:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

Matthews couldn’t win an argument with a shower curtain, let alone with anyone who has an IQ above room temperature.


4 posted on 05/07/2009 8:09:28 PM PDT by doc1019 (Without White Liberal Guilt, Obama would just be another worthless Congress critter.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any conservative that goes on that show is a stupid putz.


5 posted on 05/07/2009 8:09:52 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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To: SeekAndFind
""you don't believe that, you don't, you don't take a fundamentalist view of, of the seven days of creation do you?" "

People are being tested. One should not be embarrassed by the word of God. If you are, then have failed the test as a servant of God

6 posted on 05/07/2009 8:11:27 PM PDT by csense
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To: SeekAndFind
"God created the heavens and the Earth, the seas and all that is in them"

Yep. And I just get a tingle up my leg knowing this :)

7 posted on 05/07/2009 8:13:38 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: SeekAndFind

Why couldn’t Pence give a direct answer?


8 posted on 05/07/2009 8:15:28 PM PDT by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: SeekAndFind
"There are people that really are against science in your party who really do question not just the science behind the climate change...

Yeah - we questioned the science behind The Population Bomb and the Club of Rome and the "science" behind the next ice age in the 70's. etc. etc. etc.

9 posted on 05/07/2009 8:16:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (Pinch Sulzberger,it so predictably turns out,is only a liberal with other people's money.Howie Carr)
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To: joesbucks
Why couldn’t Pence give a direct answer?

Because he doesn't know. He wasn't there when the whole thing happened. Do you ? I don't.

I think he gave the best answer : "I believe God created the Heavens and the Earth."
10 posted on 05/07/2009 8:17:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The global warming lie is about as anti-science as any fraud scheme to have come down the pike.


11 posted on 05/07/2009 8:19:07 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: csense

I second that sentiment.


12 posted on 05/07/2009 8:27:50 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chris Matthews is an old Democratic political hack. Maybe he should discuss something important, like spending trillions of dollars we don’t have, insulting our friends, sucking up to our enemies, etc.


13 posted on 05/07/2009 8:28:08 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: SeekAndFind

At this point, Hissy-fit and Olbermeister are paid to make complete fools of themselves, as there’s no other explanation.

Our hamster has more sense than these two put together.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 8:29:53 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: SeekAndFind
Because he doesn't know. He wasn't there when the whole thing happened. Do you ? I don't.
I think he gave the best answer : "I believe God created the Heavens and the Earth."

I'm reminded of a passage in one of my favorite science books, by Timothy Ferris -- "Coming of Age in the Milky Way" -- whereby he posits about how an Atom-smasher is like taking a hammer to a Watch to see what might come flying out of it, and then asks: How did the Watch get put together in the first place?

Ferris doesn't actually say the exact word, but he alludes to it with the above question --- only God could put this intricate complex system together.

15 posted on 05/07/2009 8:31:03 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: SeekAndFind

Anti-science democrats deny the scientific fact that human life begins at conception.


16 posted on 05/07/2009 8:34:34 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SeekAndFind; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; Marie2; metmom

It’s on!!!

Now we’re getting it direct from the MSM... won’t the Evo’s on FR be proud?

Maybe they’ll get a tingle up there leg when they listen to Chris Matthews now.


17 posted on 05/07/2009 8:38:40 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: SeekAndFind

But that’s not what he did. He tried to straddle the fence. Either he has faith it’s the fact or he says you know, it’s open for interpretation and further revelation.


18 posted on 05/07/2009 8:39:34 PM PDT by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Me:
“Chris let’s just focus on the Climate so I don’t overwhelm your intellect and to prevent you from changing subjects when your scientific knowledge fails to support your ideology.”


19 posted on 05/07/2009 8:44:55 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Chrissy Matthews portrays himself as just another little loudmouth trying to make a name for himself idiot..


20 posted on 05/07/2009 9:26:04 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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