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5/10/09
| Ron C
Posted on 05/10/2009 1:08:11 AM PDT by Ron C.
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Sad to say, the level of knowledge in conservatism is only slightly greater than that of the liberal left. Conservatives know there is a stark difference, but they know too little about how to fight back - but, worse than that, they have little desire to fight back in effective ways. That must change, and it can - easily. If you want to know more, don't hesitate to drop me a line in Freepmail.
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:08:11 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
To: Ron C.
Thanks for the post Ron C. I look forward to reading it.
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:09:32 AM PDT
by
GOP Poet
To: GOP Poet
~grin~ - yeah, I know... you have to have the time... 8^)
Tx...
Ron
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:15:11 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
To: Molly Pitcher; Kathy in Alaska; Jim Robinson; JohnHuang2
Use your ping list - and point some of the ‘regulars’ here - that need to know what they perhaps don’t know, or know a bit, but perhaps believe they have no power to change anything.
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:36:26 AM PDT
by
Ron C.
To: Ron C.
Marked for a later read, it looks like it could be very good... already took my sleeping pill........ fading ........ feeling light headed..... kinda funny.... kinda drunk.... slipping... drifting... fuzzy head.... I’m gone...... zzzzzzzzzz ZZZZZZZZZZ
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:43:22 AM PDT
by
Gator113
(Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
To: Ron C.
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:56:57 AM PDT
by
Brad’s Gramma
(Life is but a big granola bar.)
To: Ron C.
The US Constitution is in many ways shorter, and far more to the point.
Please do not invoke Jims good name upon that which would take longer to read. I skimed it to be sure, absolute snozze fest.
Ron C. fire us up, or tell us something that we don’t already know. and be concise and short about it.
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posted on
05/10/2009 1:59:47 AM PDT
by
ChetNavVet
(Build It, and they won't come!)
To: Ron C.
"But, note well - in the early 1900s Democrats were the conservatives, while Republicans were the first to drift off into progressive socialist politics."
I'd say there were equal numbers in both parties. But the Dems were actively trying to purge Conservatives as long ago as the 1890s, under Socialists like IL Gov. John Altgeld (probably the most radical Governor in that state's history - and so far to the left that the ostensible "Progressive" Theodore Roosevelt lambasted him from the right, effectively calling him a Parisian Communist) and their attempt to take over the party with William Jennings Bryan. They wanted to make sure Grover Cleveland types never would become President again under the Dem banner. None ever did.
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posted on
05/10/2009 2:16:57 AM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
To: Ron C.
Well reasoned. The GOP is the best available vehicle for conservative political activism. Whining and carping from the sidelines gains nothing.
To: Ron C.
It only takes a spark to get a fire going!
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posted on
05/10/2009 3:30:54 AM PDT
by
johnthebaptistmoore
(Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
To: Ron C.
Third parties have done nothing to prosper conservatism, throughout this nations history. In fact, the few that have claimed conservatism (and largely arent) have repeatedly succeeded in doing nothing more than electing Democrats
Amen Brother. Someone needs to get Glenn "the Clown" Beck to understand that.
Hes trying his hardest to use Fox News to start up a new Libertarian push.
To: Ron C.
To: Ron C.
Either true conservatives help keep the party conservative or you fail the final test of conservatism itself.
Your self appointed litmus test for Conservatism leaves a lot to be desired. Your post is based on the false premise the socialists in the OP are the RINO's(minority). Party leadership has purposely moved to the socialist left at the expense of Conservatism in order to expand the voter base. Consequently Conservatives are the RINO's. Continually returning to the party that has repeatedly abandon Conservative principles and made Conservatives the minority is the political version of battered wife syndrome. It couldn't be more illogical. They have merged with the socialist Democrats to become one big socialist Republicrat party system.
Conservatives will only be able to restore the two party system by supporting a Conservative party based on strong Conservative principles.
Conservatives could easily make that all happen once again if enough of them decide they really want to become aggressive at making a political difference
If restoring Conservatism to the OP is so easy then it should have and could have been done long ago. The fact is it wasn't done because the party doesn't want it to happen. Conservatives need to look past the party name and accept the fact it is time to form their own party instead of remaining in one where they are merely a wing of the party. Your post doesn't pass the smell test.
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posted on
05/10/2009 3:59:13 AM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Rockingham
Well reasoned. The GOP is the best available vehicle for conservative political activism.
It couldn't make less sense. The OP would never have degenerated into the socialist morass over the past several years if your statement were true. The OP rank and file are too hung up on party names. They need to look past the name and see the ideology has morphed into that of the socialist left creating one big socialist party. The best available vehicle to restore the two party system is by supporting a conservative party committed to strong conservative principles instead of employing the big tent mentality that to this day the OP insists on using.
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:03:57 AM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: DainBramage
agreed
At first I was enjoying watching him but his constant harping on how republicans are bad and just as bad as the left has done my head in now.
Then he had that nut on some time ago from 20/20 who thnks that we should eat bears and their numbers will go up.
Then he has another nut from Vegas on somettimes who is just as bad
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:12:48 AM PDT
by
manc
(Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
To: Ron C.
Conservatives know there is a stark difference, but they know too little about how to fight back - but, worse than that, they have little desire to fight back in effective ways.I believe these problems have their roots within the very concept of Conservatism. Among the definitions of a "conservative" are being cautious, avoiding excess, and resisting change.
All of these are positive qualities if not taken to a ridiculous extreme, however the Left has effectively demonized those of us who are disinclined to change how things work if there is no good reason for doing so. The axiom "If it works, don't fix it" is an appropriate saying for true Conservatives.
Admiral Yamamoto quite correctly predicted after the attack on Pearl Harbor that, "...all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". Conservatives seem to be very slow to take action, but once they do, they tend to follow through until the objective is achieved.
Warnings were apparent before the attack on Pearl Harbor, just as we were aware that the World Trade Center was a prime target for terrorists.
The key question we must ask ourselves relative to these historical attacks is "why didn't we do something about it beforehand?" Again, remember what key trait defines Conservatism - we tend not to change unless there is good cause, and this cautious nature lends itself easily to a rejection of perceived alarmism.
We had numerous warnings before the election, yet Conservatives were ill-prepared to counter Obama supporters. Those of us who did take a vocal and active stand against his radical socialism were labeled as unenlightened Extremists.
History repeats itself, and eventually Conservatives will stand together in defiance of these attacks on our Liberties, but I fear it may take far too much time for a "sleeping giant" reaction. Ron C. is absolutely correct in that we MUST take action now at the local level to effect change that is necessary. We see it, and we know our liberties are systematically being removed. As repugnant as it may seem to us, we all must adopt tactics from the Left in order to save our nation.
Grassroots efforts such as involvement in local politics is how the liberals began this current assault. We must do the same and not look towards any one individual to save our freedoms.
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:17:57 AM PDT
by
NoPrisoners
("When in the course of human events...")
To: ChetNavVet; Ron C.
Ron C. fire us up, or tell us something that we dont already know. and be concise and short about it. There it is in a nutshell. We are not interested in an actual strategy and actual directions on how to work towards a goal. No, we do not want to go to meetings. We do not want to do actual work. We want to be fired up.
Then we can sit here at our keyboards and smolder. Perhaps, on really good days, we may begin to smoke a little and sometimes even begin to glow.
But work? That's crazy talk.
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:21:39 AM PDT
by
don-o
(My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
To: don-o
We are not interested in an actual strategy and actual directions on how to work towards a goal. No, we do not want to go to meetings. We do not want to do actual work. We want to be fired up.BINGO!
Let's all have a huge pity-party. Whine & moan about how the Republican party has betrayed us all you want, but remember one thing:
WE ELECTED THESE TURKEYS!
Don't like where the country is headed? Then get off yer duff!!!
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:27:52 AM PDT
by
NoPrisoners
("When in the course of human events...")
To: Ron C.
You wasted bandwidth. I can sum up the Free Republic definition of "conservative" quite succinctly:
Whatever It is, It Sure As Hell Ain't YOU!!
Just as sure as there is no god, conservatives will never unite under one banner again.
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:40:13 AM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...)
To: johnthebaptistmoore
And you would think all the wind found on Free Republic would produce a Santa Barbara wildfire across the nation. Who is putting it out?
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posted on
05/10/2009 4:53:38 AM PDT
by
huldah1776
( Worthy is the Lamb)
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