Maybe it will be big enough for Al Gore's 100 foot long houseboat.
Posted on 05/12/2009 1:13:57 AM PDT by neverdem
This past week, I received a literally astounding report from Yakutat, Alaska's city manager, Skip Ryman, forwarded to me by Kerri Thoreson, concerning the rapid advancement of the Hubbard Glacier towards Gilbert Point near Yakutat at the astonishing rate of two meters (seven feet) per day!
Skip gave me the Army Corp of Engineers special Web site for the Hubbard Glacier, (www.glacierresearch.com). On Tuesday, we pulled up some absolutely amazing photos of the advancing glacier in color. One can easily see the expanding wall of ice. It's HUGE!
Since the Corp of Engineers ordinarily protects and maintains possession of the scientific information they generate, it's certainly unusual for them to 'open up' like this. But, as Randy Mann and I have often said, these are days of Wide Weather 'EXTREMES'?
But, even the dedicated global warmists need to know the truth about the recent extended period of global cooling caused by our 'SILENT SUN.' So, if our readers try to access the site and fail, keep trying. It's perfectly legal and the Corp has set it up for public access.
As Skip says in his e-mail, "ignore the admonishment and continue to the site. The Corp can't 'turn off' the warning as it is part of their system. There will be no 'men in black' in black helicopters to spirit you away for just looking at this incredible site. I was literally 'blown away!'"
The Corp is involved because 'when' and 'if' the Hubbard Glacier eventually closes the Russell Fjord, the fjord will fill with fresh water, becoming a 30-mile-long lake creating a new 40,000-cubic-feet-per-second river system. This will have an extremely 'negative' economic impact on Yakutat and the surrounding regions. It's possible that at the shocking rate of seven feet per day in its advancement, the Hubbard Glacier could close the fjord by later this summer, or even prior to that time, if the current rate of advancement speeds up, say to perhaps 10 or 12 feet per day.
By carefully monitoring the Army Corp of Engineers Web site, we residents of North Idaho can be alerted to these type of events in 'real time' data presentations, not mere heresay.
It looks like an interesting summer ahead, weatherwise and otherwise. I'll have more glacial updates as they occur. Remember, we have THE RIGHT TO KNOW!
NORTH IDAHO WEATHER REVIEWS AND
LONG-RANGE UPDATES
Not only has our 'SILENT SUN,' almost completely devoid of sunspots, been at least partially responsible for the expanding glaciers in Alaska, Norway and elsewhere, but 'Ole Sol' is likewise, in my not-so-humble climatological opinion, to blame for our recent colder, snowier and wetter spring seasons in North Idaho and the surrounding Inland Empire.
There were a few snowflakes mixed in with the rain showers this Thursday morning, May 7, as temperatures fell into the chilly 30s early in the day as I wrote this weekly update.
Heavier snows -- up to six inches or more above 5,000 feet -- have accumulated in the nearby mountains on a daily basis since early May. It may be mid June or later before Glacier Park's 'Going-to-the-Sun Highway' opens. (Next week, we'll take a look at what's happening to the glaciers in the park. Are they also beginning to expand? Find out the truth in just seven days.)
As far as the local weather scene is concerned for the rest of May, I don't see any really warm weather developing for at least another 10 days despite a bit less shower activity across the Inland Northwest.
It's possible, however, that more typical afternoon highs in the 70s and lower 80s may arrive just in time for Memorial Day celebrations during the weekend of May 23-25. (It's early this year.) But, I don't see any readings locally in the summery 90s until at least early to mid June or later. Again, blame the 'Silent Sun.'
Longer-term, I'm still predicting a rather short but VERY HOT and DRY summer of 2009 in North Idaho.
The warmest weather should be sometime around the July 7-15 'full moon' cycle. It's possible that we will see an afternoon or two during this week with readings 'flirting' with the century mark, well above 'Sholeh' territory.
The weather for this August's North Idaho Fair and Rodeo looks great as long as the protective high pressure ridge over the region remains in place into the fourth week of the month as expected.
The fall of 2009 will be both WETTER and COOLER than in the past few years, hence a bit shorter summer season overall. I'll have more details next week.
...I would have thought such rapid terminal advancement as this would be evidence of the Glacier melting...moving rapidly over meltwater.
Someone tell Sarah. She needs to ditch her McCainsian beleif in global warming ASAP
Gotta love the Gore-bull Warming, huh?
Does Manbearpig know about this? How bout yer Bammy?
You may be right. The science may mean this glacier is in fact melting and suffering from global warming. And the glaciers that are retreating? The science may mean that those glaciers are the ones suffering from global warming. The real problem is that today's "scientists" are like todays journalists, too lazy to support their default conclusions:
Hurricane in Louisiana? Bush's fault.
Increase or decrease in rainfall, snowfall, temperature? Global warming.
I'd like to see real analysis, but it's not going to come from the current generation of professionals in those fields. Your explanation could be true, as could a softening of the glacier's core that changes the viscosity or whatever they call the glacial equivalent, but scientists are supposed to need evidence, and they no longer bother.
Goodness, the people in Yakutat Ak must be concerned about it being so warm there. Gotta get Algore to come up and bring his swim trunks before that extra new layer of ice melts too fast and floods the town. Global warming, y’know. yuck,yuck, yuck.
No, not Bush’s fault. Karl Rove has the hurricane control machine.
I think glaciers move more quickly over meltwater. This increase in flow might be because it is melting.
Look under Reports (http://www.glacierresearch.com/) at the slide presentation titled:
Monitoring Tidewater Terminus Dynamics Using Laser Ranging and Fixed Photography: Hubbard Glacier, Southeast Alaska
It definitely refers to ice accumulation in the glacier. It is not global warming that is causing the glacier to flow faster. It is ice accumulation.
No. See my post at #10.
1. The first step in the scientific method is to ask a question that you will do the experiment to solve.
2. The next step is to gather information, which you will use to make the hypothesis that Global Warming is the cause of the problem. You predict what you have already observed and attribute this effect to global climate change.
3. Next, you do the experiment, organize data to support your conclusion, etc.
4. After that, you state your conclusion, in which you answer your question and confirm that your hypothesis is correct - Global Warming is the problem.
5. Lastly, you report the results so that other people may admire your results as well as get the knowledge that you created before doing the experiment.
Maybe it will be big enough for Al Gore's 100 foot long houseboat.
What exactly are HER beliefs?
He keeps it in his coat pocket, and you just know what he is doing when he reaches in there - he's destroying some other town with glacial meltwater. There is simply no limit to the man's perfidy.
Ping
QUICK! Sell more SUVs! We need to warm the planet to save Yakutat! Worrying about Tulavu drowning under rising oceans is so '00s. We need to warm the plane to stop glaciers from overrunning native villages. Direct Action NOW!
From my understanding, I suggest it is the overall weight of the glacier that causes it to melt at the earth surface, hence it will move depending on the slope that it is resting on....I suspect this is nothing new....
Bingo!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!
LLS
At the research site - go to the Real Time Data
Set the number of days to display to 1100 or so
you’ll see a repeating wave. Advances then recedes annually.
Nothing different going on here - move along.
Wow, like a remote control.
Like, does it have a stop, pause, fast forward and rewind?
Is the glacier advancing or expanding?
An advancing glacier is basically sliding down a mountain or into a valley.
An expanding glacier is getting bigger.
I would think so too. However if that is the case, I don't think the external ambient temperature would cause the internal base of the glacier where it contacts land to melt thus causing the glacier to "slide". Any such temperature would cause the external surface of the glacier to melt causing it to shrink.
My guess is that there is something going on underneath the glacier, such as increased volcanic activity that is causing a warming in the earth underneath the clacier.
It looks sort of like a beeber, but I haven’t get a good enough look to see exactly what controls it has - Fast and Faster, I think.
And gravity? Aren’t there some 18,000+ ft peaks in that area?
huh,,,gee people ,,glaciers grow because of more snow,,,they advance because they are growing,,more SNOW,colder temps,,the global warming HOAX has got many doubting basic science,,when glaciers melt they recede,,shrink,,it’s been that way forever.
My guess is that there is something going on underneath the glacier,
Right you are, but it’s not volcanic activity. More snow and ice mean more weight on the glacier, more weight more pressure at the interface, more pressure more heat, basic earth science, 8th grade
It’s no worse than the last two annual cycles - about 430 two summers ago, then up to around 980. Then to 450 and then to 820, and now down to 450. This appears to happen every year. What gives? I don’t see anything different over the last two years. Can someone fill me in on what is different about this year that causes concern?
More heat? Aha!!! Global warming is happening, and it's caused by snow. Al Gore was right all along.
Not possible!! Algore and his acolytes at the Church of the Man-Made Climate Change (plus that consensus of climate scientists) have definitively stated that the polar ice caps (including all those glaciers) are receding at such a rapid rate that the melted water will raise the level of the oceans, causing every square inch of land (with the exception of Hackensack, NJ!!) to be covered with water and we're all gonna DIE!!!!!
OMG! In about 8000 years this glacier could over take Houston, TX!!1
Um, the real time data on the site shows the glacier hasn’t moved in 4 days.
And the Corp can't lay a drain pipe or melt a hole through the glacier?
God sure has a great sense of humor.
I’m sorry I forgot thats so 20th century now.
I'm a firm believer in the ravages of climate change. I'm also a firm believer that there's virtually nothing man can do to stop it.
When I encounter someone who disagrees with me, I respond with three words: Little Ice Age.
She believes in the fairy tale, tho she is smart enough to hedge on the % man is contributing. Nevertheless, she says it doesn’t matter what caused it, we need to “do something about it”
We actively manage the second half of the rain cycle, controlling the flow of most fresh water that hits land. We couldn't sustain 7 billion people on Earth without this technology. The next step is the actively manage the first half of the cycle, by helping mother nature create more clouds when it suits. Clouds are a key regulator of climate. The day will come when we will prevent the next ice age. We will also someday protect the Earth from major meteor impacts. The days of a wild Earth are coming to an end.
...that makes sense. I don’t know, perhaps this rate of advancement is not that unusual, but the headline certainly proclaimed it as such. Perhaps there’s a spring or undergound watersource that has eroded the foundations?
I thought so too, but perhaps this is an anomoly. Perhaps there is some condition under the ice that is forcing it’s rapid advancement. Pure speculation of course. I really have no idea.
Glacial Ice is a natural “COLD FUSION” reactor, that is why these glaciers are warming up the earth!
Most of the tracked glaciers in the world are expanding.
How fast is the typical rate of advancement? Hard to know how fast 7 feet is if I don’t know what it was usually before.
“...I would have thought such rapid terminal advancement as this would be evidence of the Glacier melting...moving rapidly over meltwater.”
A larger glacier forming behind it is pushing it!
No glacier is stationary, they all continually move.
Although your points are well taken, I have to disagree with you on this one. I can't imagine man ever having the capability to "tame" our planet.
bttt
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