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Swine Flu May Be Human Error, Scientist Says; WHO Probes Claim
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Posted on 05/12/2009 3:47:54 PM PDT by FromLori

The World Health Organization is investigating an Australian researcher’s claim that the swine flu virus circling the globe may have been created as a result of human error.

Adrian Gibbs, 75, who collaborated on research that led to the development of Roche Holding AG’s Tamiflu drug, said in an interview today that he intends to publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines. Gibbs said that he came to his conclusion as part of an effort to trace the virus’s origins by analyzing its genetic blueprint.

The World Health Organization received the study last weekend and is reviewing it, Keiji Fukuda, the agency’s assistant director-general of health security and environment, said in an interview yesterday. Gibbs, who has studied germ evolution for four decades, is one of the first scientists to analyze the genetic makeup of the virus that was identified three weeks ago in Mexico and threatens to touch off the first flu pandemic since 1968.

A virus that resulted from lab experimentation or vaccine production may indicate a greater need for security, Fukuda said. By pinpointing the source of the virus, scientists also may better understand the microbe’s potential for spreading and causing illness, Gibbs said.

Caution

“The sooner we get to grips with where it’s come from, the safer things might become,” Gibbs said in a telephone interview from Canberra today. “It could be a mistake” that occurred at a vaccine production facility or the virus could have jumped from a pig to another mammal or a bird before reaching humans, he said.

Gibbs and two colleagues analyzed the publicly available sequences of hundreds of amino acids coded by each of the flu virus’s eight genes. He said he aims to submit his three-page paper tomorrow for publication in a medical journal.

“You really want a very sober assessment” of the science behind the claim, Fukuda said yesterday at the WHO’s Geneva headquarters.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta has received the report and has decided there is no evidence to support Gibbs’s conclusion, said Nancy Cox, director of the agency’s influenza division. She said since researchers don’t have samples of swine flu viruses from South America and Africa, where the new strain may have evolved, those regions can’t be ruled out as natural sources for the new flu. No Evidence

“We are interested in the origins of this new influenza virus,” she said. “But contrary to what the author has found, when we do the comparisons that are most relevant, there is no evidence that this virus was derived by passage in eggs.”

The WHO’s collaborative influenza research centers, which includes the CDC, and sites in Memphis, Melbourne, London and Tokyo, were asked by the international health agency to review the study over the weekend, Fukuda said. The request was extended to scientists at the Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome, the World Organization for Animal Health in Paris, as well as the WHO’s influenza network yesterday, he said.

“My guess is that the picture should be a lot clearer over the next few days,” Fukuda said. “We have asked a lot of people to look at this.”

Lab Escape

Gibbs wrote or co-authored more than 250 scientific publications on viruses during his 39-year career at the Australian National University in Canberra, according to biographical information on the university’s Web site.

Swine flu has infected 5,251 people in 30 countries so far, killing 61. Scientists are trying to determine whether the virus will mutate and become more deadly if it spreads to the Southern Hemisphere and back. Flu pandemics occur when a strain of the disease to which few people have immunity evolves and spreads.

Gibbs said his analysis supports research by scientists including Richard Webby, a virologist at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis, who found the new strain is the product of two distinct lineages of influenza that have circulated among swine in North America and Europe for more than a decade. In addition, his research found the rate of genetic mutation in the new virus outpaced that of the most closely related viruses found in pigs, suggesting it evolved outside of swine, Gibbs said.

Some scientists have speculated that the 1977 Russian flu, the most recent global outbreak, began when a virus escaped from a laboratory.

Other Theories?

Identifying the source of new flu viruses is difficult without finding the exact strain in an animal or bird “reservoir,” said Jennifer McKimm-Breschkin, a virologist at the Commonwealth Science and Industrial Research Organization in Melbourne.

“If you can’t find an exact match, the best you can do is compare sequences,” she said. “Similarities may give an indication of a possible source, but this remains theoretical.”

The World Organization for Animal Health, which represents chief veterinary officers from 174 countries, received the Gibbs paper and is working with WHO on an assessment, said Maria Zampaglione, a spokeswoman.

The WHO wants to know whether any evidence that the virus may have been developed in a laboratory can be corroborated and whether there are other explanations for its particular genetic patterns, according to Fukuda.

‘Wild Idea’

“These things have to be dealt with straight on,” he said. “If someone makes a hypothesis, then you test it and you let scientific process take its course.”

Gibbs said he has no evidence that the swine-derived virus was a deliberate, man-made product.

“I don’t think it could be a malignant thing,” he said. “It’s much more likely that some random thing has put these two viruses together.”

Gibbs, who spent most of his academic career studying plant viruses, said his major contribution to the study of influenza occurred in 1975, while collaborating with scientists Graeme Laver and Robert Webster in research that led to the development of the anti-flu medicines Tamiflu and Relenza, made by GlaxoSmithKline Plc.

“We were out on one of the Barrier Reef islands, off Australia, catching birds for the flu in them, and I happened to be the guy who caught the best,” Gibb said. The bird he got “yielded the poo from which was isolated the influenza isolate strain from which all the work on Tamiflu and Relenza started.” Gibbs, who says he studies the evolution of flu viruses as a “retirement hobby,” expects his research to be challenged by other scientists.

“This is how science progresses,” he said. “Somebody comes up with a wild idea, and then they all pounce on it and kick you to death, and then you start off on another silly idea.”


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KEYWORDS: cdc; flu; h1n1; influenza; swineflu; who

1 posted on 05/12/2009 3:47:54 PM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori

It was probably created by the same folks who invented AIDS; Haliburton of course.


2 posted on 05/12/2009 3:51:32 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: FromLori
“This is how science progresses,” he said. “Somebody comes up with a wild idea, and then they all pounce on it and kick you to death, and then you start off on another silly idea.”

Kinda how Globull Cooling, pounded upon, led to Globull Warming, which, pounded upon, led to Gorebull Climate Change.

3 posted on 05/12/2009 3:52:55 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Cementjungle

Nah, it was Bush.

He was up late in the WH and created it for fun.

;)


4 posted on 05/12/2009 3:53:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cementjungle
"It was probably created by the same folks who invented AIDS; Haliburton of course.

Or, the same people that brought you Sickle-cell and crack cocaine - The CIA.

5 posted on 05/12/2009 3:53:35 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: FromLori

Mmmmmm!?


6 posted on 05/12/2009 3:53:46 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Cementjungle
“It was probably created by the same folks who invented AIDS; Haliburton of course.”

Post of the year! If not Haliburton then surely Bush

7 posted on 05/12/2009 3:53:51 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: Cementjungle

Never waste a crisis material was missing from an army lab


8 posted on 05/12/2009 3:55:47 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
intends to publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use

Okay, don't have the eggs.

Good to know.

9 posted on 05/12/2009 3:56:09 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: FromLori

Hmmmmm. This is beginning to sound series.


10 posted on 05/12/2009 3:57:15 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: FromLori

Looks like someone is going to get sued.


11 posted on 05/12/2009 4:37:34 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Buy gold and silver coins to profit from the comming dollar melt down!)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


12 posted on 05/12/2009 7:03:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

thanks, bfl


13 posted on 05/12/2009 7:50:44 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: FromLori
Thank you! I think I said right on this site that the swine flu was manufactured. Wouldn't even surprise me if the scientists were in cahoots with the drug companies.

Yep. I just looked up my own words:

It almost sounds like they WANT everyone to get infected. Sorry to get all tinfoil-hattish, but it's such a peculiar flu (swine/avian/human) that it sounds almost manufactured.

See the rest of my comments at post 32.

14 posted on 05/12/2009 8:56:02 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (...Mohammedanism...the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog...)
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The World Health Organization is investigating an Australian researcher’s claim that the swine flu virus circling the globe may have been created as a result of human error.
15 posted on 05/12/2009 10:21:39 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: neverdem

bump


16 posted on 05/13/2009 5:11:38 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (A Penny Saved, is a Penny TAXED)
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To: neverdem; FromLori; my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Thanks for the ping; post; post. Interesting.


17 posted on 05/13/2009 5:51:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

I said swine flu may have been manufactured from the start! However, I never assumed it would have been a “friendly” I always assumed it was a test run for the “big one” that will wipe out 1/4 of all us humans. I further believed it is a plan to cull the population.


18 posted on 05/13/2009 6:39:50 AM PDT by BellStar (Pedophiles protected by Hate Crime legislation 100% of Democrats Voted it law of the land!)
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To: BellStar
I said swine flu may have been manufactured from the start! However, I never assumed it would have been a “friendly” I always assumed it was a test run for the “big one” that will wipe out 1/4 of all us humans. I further believed it is a plan to cull the population.

I thought of it as a money-making venture, or as a societal control scheme, but you're thinking of it as a human elimination scheme. It's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, as these people treat life so cheaply. It's really disturbing to contemplate.

19 posted on 05/13/2009 12:05:34 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (...Mohammedanism...the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog...)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Trying to find the link for the following AP Story excerpted below.

US, Costa Rica report swine flu deaths; toll at 53
By RORY MARSHALL and MARIANELA JIMENEZ – 3 days ago

SEATTLE (AP) — The number of swine flu-related deaths outside of Mexico rose after the U.S. reported its third fatality and Costa Rica its first, but both men also suffered from complicating illnesses, health officials said.

Please take note of the following information regarding the Flu in Mexico and the age group affected. Quoting from the above article. “Mexican health authorities released a breakdown of the first 45 of the country’s 48 flu deaths that showed that 84 percent of the victims were between the ages of 20 and 54. Only 2.2 percent were immune-depressed, and none had a previous history of respiratory disease.”


20 posted on 05/13/2009 1:13:07 PM PDT by azkathy (Branded by the Rodeo Chediski Fire)
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