Posted on 05/14/2009 4:51:09 PM PDT by Zakeet
North Dakota's Board of Higher Education has agreed to drop the University of North Dakota's Fighting Sioux nickname and Indian head logo, a move intended to resolve a decades-long campus dispute about whether the name demeans American Indians.
The name and logo, which is a profile of an American Indian man with feathers and streaks of paint on his face, could still be saved if North Dakota's Standing Rock and Spirit Lake Sioux tribes agree by Oct. 1 to give the university permission to use them for at least 30 years.
However, tribal officials say that possibility is remote. Unless the name and logo receive tribal endorsement, they will be retired for good on Aug. 1, 2010.
The board, which met Thursday at Dickinson State University, voted 8-0 to retire the logo and nickname. UND President Robert Kelley began making plans for replacements.
"This has been a long-standing tradition at UND, and I think the board action now instructs the university to develop new traditions," he said.
Board member Grant Shaft, who is chairman of a committee that has been studying the issue, said the move may help UND's likely application to join the Summit League, an 11-member NCAA Division I conference that is seeking a 12th school.
Tom Douple, the Summit League's commissioner, has said the University of North Dakota won't be considered for membership as long as the nickname and logo dispute festered.
The education board's action does not suggest any blueprint for UND to follow in choosing a new nickname and logo.
Richie Smith, the president of the Board of Higher Education, said the issue would be left to the campus, and jokingly suggested "Moose" as a new nickname. Kelley said a transition team will be appointed to oversee the process.
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Out with the old ...
... in with the new
Note: Just trying to help come up with a more suitable and politically correct nickname.
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And here, the Indians themselves are doing it.
IDIOTS!
How about the “Politically Correct Fightin’ Pussies?”
Barney Fwank could be their mascot.
Well the Sioux have a monopoly on that name, but they could go with something more generically Indian.
>> I think the Blacks must have given up trying to get the word Dixie outlawed for bring a racist word.
If Heaven ain’t a lot like [redacted],
I don’t wanna go!
If Heaven aint a lot like [redacted],
I’d just as soon stay home.
If they don’t have Grand Ol’ Opry,
Like they do in Tennesee —
They can send me to Hell (or New York City)
It’d be about the same to me.
—With apologies to Hank Williams, Jr.
How about “the fighting aborigines”? Or “the Custers”?
Some folks would prefer to forget that the American Indian ever existed.
Can’t they just change it to the “Fighting Sue”, as in Johnny Cash’s “Boy Named Sue”?
>> the Custers?
ROFL! I think we have a WINNER!
The Indians are quietly waiting for a bribe.
Ralph Engelsted
Engelstad embroiled himself in the fight over the Fighting Sioux logo when he built a $100 million arena on the University of North Dakota campus for the Fighting Sioux hockey program. Midway in its construction, Engelstad threatened to withdraw funding if the long standing nickname were to be changed.[3] The logo was placed in thousands of instances in the arena, making the prospect of removal a costly measure. Later, Engelstad placed the stadium under private (rather than University) management and stipulated that the Fighting Sioux motif be kept indefinitely. An Engelstad family trust continues to own the arena and rents it to the University.[4]
>> The Indians are quietly waiting for a bribe.
“Welcome to the Fightin’ Sioux Casino! (Developed in partnership with the UND and the State of North Dakota.)”
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Sioux
Hmmm....does this mean that N. and S. Dakota will have to change or license their state names with the tribe?
Iowa is an Indian word too. Illinois means land of the Illini Indian tribe. Utah is named after the Ute Indians. Perhaps there are others?
I think Mississippi means “father of waters” in some Indian language?
North and South Dakota are named after the Dakota Indians.
Sioux City Iowa and Sioux Falls, South Dakota need to change their names.
Joe Biden’s Delaware was named after the Delaware Indians.
It all depends how far we want to take this concept.
The major warrior tribes should have long ago copyrighted not just their tribal name and symbols, but ironically the names that other tribes called them as well.
(For example, the real name of the Navajo is Dine. “Navajo” translates as “Enemies of the cultivating fields”, the equivalent of “Mongol Horde”. “Apache” is more to the point, meaning “Enemy”, as far as the Zuni tribe was concerned. Properly their name should translate as “Just above Mexicans on the food chain.”)
Ironically as all get out, warrior tribes have, or at least should have, considerable respect for their warrior traditions. The US military regularly uses their names on combat military equipment denoting respect.
It makes me sneer when liberals insist that Indians are hippie-like “children of nature”. Yeah, about as much as USMC Force Recon, many of whose distinguished members have been, I might add, “Native Americans”.
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