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Obama's Faith-Based Adviser Urges Challenge to ‘Heteronormative' Fatherhood
CNSNews.com ^ | May 18, 2009 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 05/18/2009 3:20:02 AM PDT by Man50D

A controversial member of President Barack Obama’s faith-based council said that part of the administration’s role in promoting responsible fatherhood should include moving beyond America’s “heteronormative view of fatherhood.”

Harry Knox, appointed last month to the 25-member President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, has drawn fire for inflammatory comments about the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict XVI.

Knox talked about fatherhood and other issues the council would work on in a May 11 PBS interview, which aired two days before a May 13 letter – signed by nearly two dozen prominent Catholics, including House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) – was sent to the White House asking Obama to remove Knox from the council.

The letter was also signed by L. Brent Bozell III, president of the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com.

“Responsible fatherhood offers us an immense opportunity to speak to a real need in the country,” said Knox, director of the faith and religion program at the Human Rights Campaign, a homosexual rights group, during the PBS interview broadcast on its Religion & Ethics Newsweekly show.

“It’ll be challenging to do that for instance in ways that are not dismissive of the tremendous gifts of single mothers; not to sort of hold a heteronormative view of fatherhood up as the only model,” said Knox.

The White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships is responsible for distributing federal money to religious non-profit and charitable organizations.

“For instance, 25 percent of gay male couples in the country are raising children – their own and other people’s,” Knox, a member of the United Church of Christ and the Interdenominational Conference of Liberation Congregations and Ministries, told PBS.

“So the challenge will be for all of us getting to know what fatherhood means for us, and how to talk about it in a way that is as inclusive as possible and empowering as possible,” he said.

He added that mentoring programs for homosexual fathers should be reviewed by the council.

“One of the things I am suggesting on the council is that they look at mentoring processes that gay dads have developed to help each other be good fathers around the country,” Knox said.

On March 17, two weeks before his appointment to the advisory council, Knox published a statement on the Human Rights Campaign Web site in reaction to the pope’s statement on condoms and AIDS in Africa, saying, “The Pope’s statement that condoms don’t help control the spread of HIV, but rather condoms increase infection rates, is hurting people in the name of Jesus.”

In response to a bishop’s instruction that a lesbian couple in Wyoming could not receive communion at the Catholic Mass, Knox, in an April 6, 2007 statement on the HRC’s Web site wrote: “In this holy Lenten season, it is immoral and insulting to Jesus to use the body and blood of Christ the reconciler as a weapon to silence free speech and demean the love of a committed, legally married couple.”

On April 6, 2009, in an interview with CNSNews.com, Knox stood by his comments from the previous month in the San Francisco-based Bay Area Reporter when he said the pope is a discredited leader.

“The Pope needs to start telling the truth about condom use,” Knox said. “We are eager to help him do that. Until he is willing to do that and able, he’s doing a great deal more harm than good – not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people’s lives.”

The day the letter from the 22 Catholics was released, Knox told Newsmax he was not anti-Catholic.

"I love the Catholic Church and love my Catholic sisters and brothers very much,” he said. “I have a tremendous amount of respect for the Roman Catholic Church and for all the good that it does. I do think that we have a real disagreement about the role of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, both in the role of the church and in the role of public service."

“If Harry Knox truly loved the Catholic Church, the first thing he’d do is formally and publicly apologize to the Holy Father for his anti-Catholic bigotry,” Bozell said.


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This has nothing to do with Homosexual rights. It one of many methods socialists are using to destroy our Democratic Republic by attacking the foundation of the nation, the family and thereby convert the country to socialism.

Cleon Skousen wrote a book titled "The Naked Communist". Included in the book were Communist goals. These goals were read into the Congressional record in 1963 by Rep. A.S.Herlong of Florida. Below are some of the goals.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

1 posted on 05/18/2009 3:20:02 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

The US is circling the bowl.


2 posted on 05/18/2009 3:23:34 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Man50D

Another clueless idiot from hell, obviously.


3 posted on 05/18/2009 3:36:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Jack Hammer

Circling the toilet bowl.


4 posted on 05/18/2009 3:37:06 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Man50D
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

... and if the "revolution" is ever accomplished, they'll find themselves imprisoned or worse. Why would it be otherwise? Look at any communist country. Have homosexuals been "celebrated" or destroyed in such places? Useful idiots will become expendable when their usefulness is at an end.

5 posted on 05/18/2009 3:45:06 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Man50D
moving beyond America’s “heteronormative view of fatherhood.”

Isn't that special! This clown knows as much about “faith-based initiatives” as I know about nuclear physics. Where on earth does the magnificent one find such creatures? He is an insult to any one who cares about the spiritual health of our country.

6 posted on 05/18/2009 3:48:31 AM PDT by RU88
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To: Man50D
"Harry Knox, appointed last month to the 25-member President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, has drawn fire for inflammatory comments about the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict XVI."

Pope Benedict was a harsh critic of "Liberation Theology"...

Excerpt from The American Thinker
Article:
Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
May 28, 2008

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation': "...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
--Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" [i.e. 'reverend Wright's thing] and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html
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The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

7 posted on 05/18/2009 3:57:25 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
The attempt here, as elsewhere, is to take over the mainline churches and force them into Satan's clutches, thereby pushing real Christianity into "cult" status, so as to marginalize and then outlaw them.
Forcing religions to accept homosexuality is just one more way to depreciate religion by the God-haters.

This is what Jesus foretold when he said we would be persecuted in his name.

8 posted on 05/18/2009 4:26:20 AM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: jeffc
Right, and "satanism" = communism.

"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."

Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=

9 posted on 05/18/2009 4:30:08 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RegulatorCountry
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Ever try to disapprove of promiscuity on FR? Thirty seconds to the "Taliban" accusations ...

When people choose irresponsibility and incontinence as their personal identity, it doesn't really matter which type it is. They're all pushing the same agenda.

10 posted on 05/18/2009 4:36:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge."~Pr. 14:7)
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To: Quix

But this particular clueless idiot is “speaking for us” ie, getting paid with our tax dollars.

It is reprehensible and disgusting.

[Aside: can we co-opt that other group’s name: “Not In Our Name”????]


11 posted on 05/18/2009 4:53:17 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero's political stylings since 1-20-09!)
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To: Man50D
Another


12 posted on 05/18/2009 5:15:05 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Man50D

The natural order of the animal kingdom is “heteronormative”, as a “homonormative” order would guarantee its extinction.


13 posted on 05/18/2009 5:28:56 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Adder

INDEED.


14 posted on 05/18/2009 7:07:42 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Man50D

You’re right. The whole homosexual is merely a battering ram to strip away freedom of speech, religion and association while breaking down the nuclear family for the benefit of leftists.


15 posted on 05/18/2009 8:20:40 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


16 posted on 05/18/2009 9:08:26 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Man50D
Gramsci posited deviancy as a way to destroy the family by which to socialize children long before Skousen's time.

We've had it in writing for nearly ninety years.

17 posted on 05/18/2009 10:26:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (God gave us Law a fool could follow, but a genius couldn't comprehend.)
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To: Man50D

YEah, nudity was somewhat acceptable and tolerated in the former East Germany.


18 posted on 05/18/2009 10:30:08 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Man50D
In this holy Lenten season, it is immoral and insulting to Jesus to use the body and blood of Christ the reconciler as a weapon to silence free speech and demean the love of a committed, legally married couple.”

The aposty of the State cannot be enforced on the Church. We have a separation of Apostate and State.

Those who celebrate their sins are unrepentant.

19 posted on 05/18/2009 10:31:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: Man50D

If the legalization of homosexuality was strictly about the actions of “consenting adults in private”, when does a child get to consent to be brought up in an alternative lifestyle as an accessory to a same sex couple?


20 posted on 05/18/2009 10:33:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Harry Knox, appointed last month to the 25-member President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, has drawn fire for inflammatory comments about the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict XVI... 'It'll be challenging to do that for instance in ways that are not dismissive of the tremendous gifts of single mothers; not to sort of hold a heteronormative view of fatherhood up as the only model," said Knox. The White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships is responsible for distributing federal money to religious non-profit and charitable organizations. "For instance, 25 percent of gay male couples in the country are raising children -- their own and other peoplecs," Knox, a member of the United Church of Christ and the Interdenominational Conference of Liberation Congregations and Ministries, told PBS.Church?
21 posted on 05/18/2009 10:46:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Man50D
For instance, 25 percent of gay male couples in the country are raising children – their own and other people’s

Says who? Where does this number come from? What constitutes a "gay male couple"?

22 posted on 05/18/2009 10:49:40 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Man50D

Normalcy is insanity. Insanity is normal. Decency should be confined to the privacy of homes and churches and perversion should be enshrined in the public arena. Get with the hopenchange program! < / sarcasm >


23 posted on 05/18/2009 10:53:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Man50D
What have we come to in this country when a word like "heteronormative" is bandied about ?

As Billy Graham said once in the past, if we don't receive punishment like Soddom and Gomorrah, God's gonna have some 'splainin' to do.

24 posted on 05/18/2009 10:55:51 AM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: happygrl

Challenging “Heteronormative” fatherhood. Oh, someone wants to have sex with little boys and call it love. The APA had this in a study saying that children could benefit from this.


25 posted on 05/18/2009 11:32:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Man50D

The ideal for children is a mother and a father, no matter what anyone says. It is not always possible, but it should be the ideal and the norm.


26 posted on 05/18/2009 11:57:42 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Man50D

What is with this Liberal obsession with homosexuality? Shouldn’t somebody like Knox talk about how many failed marriages we have in this country? If the divorce rate is so high, than to me talking about homosexuality is like talking about “climate change” in a time of economic recession. First find a way to fix a divorce epidemic then get back to me about changing cultural means of society.

Sometimes I think that some people become homosexual because to them, any kind of self-expression is political and Homosexuality is an expression of political Liberalism.


27 posted on 05/18/2009 1:14:59 PM PDT by Merta (But I May Be Wrong)
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To: a fool in paradise

good point...

perhaps the child should be asked first if they want a mommy and a daddy to raise them...

until they can say otherwise, a heteronormative family should be the norm.

teeman8r


28 posted on 05/18/2009 1:23:11 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Jack Hammer
The US is circling the bowl.

Well, I was about to say, the fact that the president can legitimize this man's warped views by selecting him for any role of public service, much less a "faith-based" one, strikes me as a sign that we've gone around the bend.

So I guess, unfortunately, that I pretty much agree with you. Until this shit passes, we're in for a rough ride.

29 posted on 05/19/2009 12:01:23 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: Man50D

I wish Obama would have gotten a Faith based advisor like
“The Chruch Lady” from SNL at least it would be funny in a funny ha ha way


30 posted on 05/19/2009 12:08:22 AM PDT by bzybee
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To: Man50D

When did Cultural Marxism get defined as a faith?


31 posted on 05/19/2009 12:12:12 AM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
The US is circling the bowl.

         Until this shit passes,


lol
32 posted on 05/19/2009 7:29:33 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Man50D

Forgive me God, but I do despise these animals who rule and ruin our nation!


33 posted on 05/19/2009 8:49:44 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholics voted based upon the teachings of the church, there would be no abortion and no Obomba.)
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To: Quix

Not clueless, and not an idiot. Owned by, controlled by, possessed by, in thrall to, fully under the command of Satan.


34 posted on 05/19/2009 10:26:09 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Campion

True . . . though . . . I don’t think one is that controlled by satan without being blinded, deceived and clueless at significant levels.


35 posted on 05/19/2009 10:52:06 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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