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Housing Starts, Permits Both Unexpectedly Lower
CNBC online ^ | May 19, 2009

Posted on 05/19/2009 6:00:41 AM PDT by pleikumud

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To: caver
Unexpectedly? What is this, humor?

But, but, but - the recession is over! Obama has solved all problems, and The New Age is upon us! The stock market is going up again! It's End of the Business Cycle! We can start back on our national credit binge!

Disclosure: Long on Karl Denninger, short on Obama's Unicorn Party and the skittles that it produces...

41 posted on 05/19/2009 6:46:15 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz's lawn jockey doesn't speak Austrian)
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To: pleikumud

Housing starts and permits are both at RECORD lows. The point of recognition that any recovery will be “L” shaped hasn’t been reached yet.


42 posted on 05/19/2009 6:46:36 AM PDT by Need4Truth (Washingtin DC is a foreign entity.)
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To: pleikumud

How can this be? My local newspaper tells me every day about “positive signs” for an “improved economy.”

As liberals so like to say: “WTF?”


43 posted on 05/19/2009 6:46:54 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: blam
Only Michigan has a higher unemployment rate than Oregon.

Michigan has a collapsed auto industry and an entrenched lunatic Socialist government. What's Oregon's excuse? I would presume also an entrenched lunatic Socialist government?

44 posted on 05/19/2009 6:47:11 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: pleikumud

The Obama “RECOVERY” is well underway.


45 posted on 05/19/2009 6:48:48 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Beelzebubba
If I want to build my dream home on a lot I own, I can. I don’t have to buy the overpriced crap out there on the market.

That's right. In my area one housing development has been struggling-lot's of empty new homes/prices slashed. 3 miles away a new development opened last summer with 3-5 acre mini farms. All 16 lot's are sold except 2(crappy lot's left) and 7-8 homes are built or are being started.

46 posted on 05/19/2009 6:52:25 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: VanDeKoik
And we worked darn hard for that, mister!

Jennifer "Jenny Grabtax" Granholm is a LOT smarter than that stupid inbred trailer-trash cow, Sarah Palin.

I'll bet Granholm could have Alaska back to the Neolithic Period in three months if they turned her loose up there. ;-)

Disclosure: The city manager of my population 3,000 town makes more than Palin, TSITTC©

47 posted on 05/19/2009 6:52:25 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz's lawn jockey doesn't speak Austrian)
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To: caver

Just as someone was saying on another thread. Since housing sales were up, I guess the analysts figured housing starts would go up. But the housing sales that are being made are foreclosed properties that are selling at bargain basement prices. And those cheap prices aren’t going away anytime soon, there’s a glut of foreclosures that haven’t even hit the market yet.


48 posted on 05/19/2009 6:55:11 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: kabar

I don’t even recognize NC anymore. It’s finished. I think we’re going to have to move north and take over a state like PA since so many of them and Jerseyites and New Yohkas have moved in down here. Not to mention the Hispanics.


49 posted on 05/19/2009 6:56:02 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: amishman
You guys must be really strong with all that diversity.

Diversity is our strength, remember?

50 posted on 05/19/2009 6:59:02 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Yes, we are. I forgot the Pakistanis and Indians, and Native Americans as well.


51 posted on 05/19/2009 7:09:49 AM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: pleikumud
900 Small To Mid-Sized Banks Face Losses Of $200 Billion

A Wall Street Journal Study of 940 Lenders Shows Potential for Deep Hit on Commercial Real Estate. Please consider Local Banks Face Big Losses.

Commercial real-estate loans could generate losses of $100 billion by the end of next year at more than 900 small and midsize U.S. banks if the economy's woes deepen, according to an analysis by The Wall Street Journal.

Such loans, which fund the construction of shopping malls, office buildings, apartment complexes and hotels, could account for nearly half the losses at the banks analyzed by the Journal, consuming capital that is an essential cushion against bad loans.

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52 posted on 05/19/2009 7:11:14 AM PDT by blam
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To: misterrob
Don’t forget that the unfinished properties are units that could quickly be converted into sellable inventory . . .
Here's how it looks in one area in Mesquite, NV. It's been like this for over a year. Only the desert weather prevents them from quickly deteriorating.

It’s a lot worse than the morons in the media would have you believe.
Amen - and yet my property taxes went up 10% "because land values have gone up". The local developer is giving buyers an extra 1/4 acre behind the house to make sales. So far they've sold one.

53 posted on 05/19/2009 7:19:49 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Must be an East Coaster. He was thinking of that Oregon was still a territory.


54 posted on 05/19/2009 7:22:21 AM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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55 posted on 05/19/2009 7:24:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: Psycho_Bunny

And if they’re not stalled they’re slow rolling. My organization is trying to build a hospital. They now say they’re going to complete the outside and not build out the inside, but I don’t see anything changing as I drive past every day.


56 posted on 05/19/2009 7:25:40 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: MikeWUSAF; pnh102
While I agree with your assertion I think it has to do with income they receive from said permits and subsequent inspections.

Yes, comrade, you are undoubtedly correct, but what a brilliant idea. Control construction by controlling the issuance of permits to ensure that the proper kind and quantity of buildings are developed to enhance the glory of our dear leader's regime and our workers paradice on earth. You must mention to the block captain.

57 posted on 05/19/2009 7:34:03 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: RSmithOpt
The numbers are amazing. In 1990, according to Census figures, the foreign born population of NC was 115,380. In 2000, it was 436,513, and in 2007 it was 602,842. The Mexican-born population went from 8,751 in 1990 to 179,236 in 2000.

These major demographic changes have political consequences. 87% of the 1.2 million LEGAL immigrants who enter this country annually are minorities. Immigrants and minorties vote the majority for Dems. States like Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and now VA and NC are turning from red to purple to eventually blue. And the Reps response is to call for major outreach to minorities rather than focusing on reducing the amount of legal immigration into this country. They are committing political suicide. An amnesty will just finish off the GOP and the country quicker, but the result will be same even without an amnesty.

58 posted on 05/19/2009 7:35:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: ichabod1
Control construction by controlling the issuance of permits to ensure that the proper kind and quantity of buildings are developed to enhance the glory of our dear leader's regime and our workers paradice on earth.

And local communities don't already do something similar with zoning and building codes?

59 posted on 05/19/2009 7:36:41 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: amishman

See my post #58.


60 posted on 05/19/2009 7:37:43 AM PDT by kabar
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