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I would say that violence is neutral, like gravity. It can be used for good or evil. It is simply one aspect of reality.
1 posted on 05/20/2009 4:35:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower

I’d rather live in a society where the old, small and weak can own an “equalizer,” than in one where thugs and gangs rule by numbers and brute strength.


2 posted on 05/20/2009 4:39:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" pre-orders are being mailed out.)
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Guns put teeth into liberty.

It’s difficult to have an uprising with another weapon.

It always comes down to the PERSON. A gun doesn’t hop into your pocket and shoot people by itself. The same applies to a knife, rock or any other weapon. So banning guns won’t stop murders.


3 posted on 05/20/2009 4:40:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Actually, one could argue that “gun violence” demonstrates a lesser degree of depravity than other kinds of violence. Which is “worse,” a teen gang banger who pulls a trigger in an instant of detached, impersonal impulse, or someone who abducts a victim and rapes, tortures and kills him or her over a period of days using a variety of non-gun implements?

The concept of “gun crimes” is nothing more than an attempt to disarm people and create a victim class who will be more than ever dependent on government for protection. “Gun crimes,” the concept of criminalizing the use of the tool rather than the act, is designed to make gun ownership, in general, riskier and more trouble than it’s worth.


5 posted on 05/20/2009 4:48:12 AM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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Let’s cut the BS. TPTB don’t give a crap if we all bludgeon, stab, beat, etc. each other to death. They just don’t want us to have weapons in our hands which would give us a chance to resist their tyranny.


6 posted on 05/20/2009 4:53:53 AM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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The propagandists in the DBM and their leftist fellow travellers prefer the term “gun violence” because it establishes a negative connotation about guns. In addition, the juxtaposition of “gun” with “violence” establishes the impression that ALL gun activity is, by necessity, borne out of an act of violence.

Through terminology such as “gun violence”, the left is trying to convince someone that all guns are bad and should be banned.

However, the writer makes a great point about “pharmaceutical violence” and “gravitational violence”.


7 posted on 05/20/2009 4:55:23 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Gun “violence” is much more impersonal. One doesn’t have to touch the victim, nor be particularly physically close. Running away tends not to work.


8 posted on 05/20/2009 5:08:39 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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"One puzzling characteristic of citizen disarmament advocates is their bizarre apparent belief that "gun violence" is somehow "worse" than other forms of violence."

This is a valid point that many of us here on FR have been making for many, many years.

Why is "gun" violence treated like something special? Because the very term "gun violence" is nothing less than propaganda with the end-game being a state-owned monopoly on force.

It's not hard to figure at all once one realizes what the true purpose is.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

10 posted on 05/20/2009 5:19:12 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

“Would you rather they were all pushed out of windows?”


13 posted on 05/20/2009 5:23:10 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: marktwain

Enjoyed this article because it wasn’t the same old usually written.

Nice job.


15 posted on 05/20/2009 5:27:27 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (I once had an awkward moment just to seen how it felt.)
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“I would say that violence is neutral, like gravity. It can be used for good or evil. It is simply one aspect of reality.”

True enough, and I’m a major gun advocate. I suspect if guns were somehow confiscated in the US, easily made homebrewed explosives would become popular to create mayhem. All that said, though, the difference between a gun and every other method mentioned is the potential for innocent bystanders to get hurt, due to the range capability of guns.

So, here’s my public service announcement for today:

1) Always treat the gun as if it’s loaded.
2) Keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
4) Know your target and what’s beyond.

The good news is that in a recent poll I saw, more than half of Americans support gun rights, an all time high.

The bad news is that I saw some folks shooting the other day, and a few of them had trouble keeping half their shots on a full size silhouette at ten feet. Not good if you’re downrange. If you’re going to carry, learn to shoot well!

(BTW Mark, love your work! heh)


17 posted on 05/20/2009 5:31:12 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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When I spent some time in Australia, I was surprised at the number of people who were beaten to death by hammers, golf clubs, and cricket bats.

These seemed like unpleasant ways to go. Once in a while someone would be shot, but guns are not so common Down Under, so most murder victims aren't so lucky there.

20 posted on 05/20/2009 5:39:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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The mistake many on our side make is our belief that the left has an "irrational" fear of guns. The high practitioners of leftism are tyrants in the making who can and will seize any control they can. Their fear of guns is very rational as firearms in the hands of private citizens pose the ultimate and perhaps only threat left to their end game.

Irrationalism only comes into play as long as we have some semblance of a constitutional republic remaining, and the masses must be worked into a frothing frenzy in order to further their agenda of firearm prohibition.

24 posted on 05/20/2009 6:09:38 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: marktwain

True. If they take away the guns they’d better take away the kitchen knives. They’re no less lethal.


26 posted on 05/20/2009 6:33:51 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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**The implication is that Mayor Bloomberg’s anti-gun jihad has been successful, despite an increase in murders, simply because fewer of those murders were committed with guns.***

Many years ago some lib run city instituted a handgun waiting period to buy a firearm. the purpose was to “prevent suicides”.

IT WORKED! The law was declared a success because several suicidal people tried to buy handguns but had to wait.

Each of those people still killed themselves, they just didn’t do it with a gun.


29 posted on 05/20/2009 7:26:09 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: marktwain

At least there are ‘winners’ of gun fights. There are usually no winners in a knife fight.


30 posted on 05/20/2009 7:43:44 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: marktwain

A swan-dive is sometimes followed by a belly flop, which isn’t a pleasant experience at all.


33 posted on 05/20/2009 9:25:09 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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Reminds me of the old Archie Bunker comment. When Gloria is decrying the number of people killed by guns, Archie asks her “Would ya’s feel better if they was pushed outa windas?”


34 posted on 05/20/2009 9:32:50 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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The anti-gunners are no different that the temperance societies that led the way from prohibition. Making alcohol illegal was going to do great things. When booze was finally banned consumption didn't stop and the ethanol market was still there so a new age of crime was ushered in.

Passing such laws does little to change human behavior. The old saw, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions", still applies.

37 posted on 05/20/2009 5:07:33 PM PDT by oyez (To the extent veterans read it as an accusation -- and apology is owed(i.e. not given))
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