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Study: Millennials Really Love Their Big Government
The Atlantic ^

Posted on 05/20/2009 7:09:45 AM PDT by mc6809e

A study from the Center for American Progress polls the Millennial generation and finds that they aren't afraid of big government, not even a little. This is a bit surprising, because one thing I always heard about today's twentysomethings is that we're libertarian-lite: culturally liberal but too anti-authority to love a big government. Well, nevermind, I guess.

As Matt Yglesias points out, today's youth are tilting left on all sorts of economic questions, from more government investment in education and infrastructure (80% agree) to leading the world's eco-revolution (73% on board). And on the meta-questions about government's role in American lives, we really are all socialists now:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; millenials; polls
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Some in the GOP were considering calling the Democratic Party the Democratic Socialist Party.

In light of this study, I'd say the result of such a move would be to create more Democrats.

1 posted on 05/20/2009 7:09:45 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: mc6809e

Call them Fascists. It’s what they are, by definition.


2 posted on 05/20/2009 7:10:26 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: mc6809e

The generation that wants ‘free’ stuff.

Free health care

Free child care

Free education

Free cars too, after all, how else to get to their gummint job.


3 posted on 05/20/2009 7:11:12 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: mc6809e

Awesome. Start taxing them at 45%. Every dime. Then see how they feel. :)


4 posted on 05/20/2009 7:11:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Don’t worry. They will be taxed to a fair thee well. In 1950 there were 16 workers to every retiree; today there are 3.3; and by 2030 there will be two.


5 posted on 05/20/2009 7:13:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SoFloFreeper
Start taxing them at 45%.

Way too low. ;)

6 posted on 05/20/2009 7:15:41 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Right. This mindset is courtesy of the school system brainwashing.

Wait until they start getting taxed at the higher tax brackets and have to pay for taking care of all the old people in the country.

We’ll see how big government they are then.


7 posted on 05/20/2009 7:15:55 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: mc6809e

It’s the schools.

We let the left take over the public schools. We decided it wasn’t important, and we’d take care of our own, (private schools, home schooling).

Our mistakes are being revealed.


8 posted on 05/20/2009 7:16:10 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: mc6809e

“Public schools were first to go
“They’re run by leftists as you know”


9 posted on 05/20/2009 7:16:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: brownsfan

Formerly Catholic schools now sports teams and house of abortion worship like Notre Dame are equallly clueless. Many kids just obsess about Starbux, ipods & iPhones and Facebook. Hopefully when mommy and daddy can no longer afford to indulge these brats they may wake up.


10 posted on 05/20/2009 7:22:21 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: mc6809e

This, my friends, is why America can’t survive. We have an entire generation that is unaware of the principles of democracy.


11 posted on 05/20/2009 7:22:49 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: Carley

They can have the society they want. There’s no way to stop it; they’ve been brainwashed to idiocy and aren’t capable of rational, critical or analytical thinking skills. They only know what they “feel” in their brains of mush.

Screw them; let the country burn down around them. Let’s see how they “feel” then. Maybe the strong will survive to re-build from the ashes. I really see no alternative because talking to them isn’t going to do any good.


12 posted on 05/20/2009 7:23:17 AM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: Juan Medén
This, my friends, is why America can’t survive. We have an entire generation that is unaware of the principles of democracy.

The Lefties got the schools. The rest was just a matter of time.

13 posted on 05/20/2009 7:23:52 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Juan Medén
This, my friends, is why America can’t survive. We have an entire generation that is unaware of the principles of democracy.

Wrong. They love Democracy. They can't wait to vote for the creation of a socialist utopia.

Democracy isn't freedom. Democracy is control by the biggest gang. And the biggest gang wants big government.

14 posted on 05/20/2009 7:27:38 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: henkster
“I really see no alternative because talking to them isn’t going to do any good.”

Liberals do not want to have a reasonable discussion regarding this societal shift, not even the 50 year old males. Believe me, I tried last night.

15 posted on 05/20/2009 7:28:35 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: mc6809e
"Millennials Really Love Their Big Government"

This is the part of previous elections where the GOP "blew it".

The 18-34 yr. old crowd is/has moved to the left of center. The GOP either didn't see it, or refused to pivot accordingly ==> politically tone deaf.
16 posted on 05/20/2009 7:30:50 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: henkster; gathersnomoss

There is an alternative - state sovereignty.

The citizens of a sovereign state can insulate themselves from the socialism of the nation as a whole by refusing to contribute to the socialist pot and refusing to accept the handouts from this pot.


17 posted on 05/20/2009 7:33:30 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Carley

Today’s kids are woefully uninformed about how government works. They have never analyzed our system of checks and balances, they no nothing about our founding other than that Washington and Jefferson owned slaves, and they have never even considered how an out-of-control government could be detrimental to their lives.

They live in blissful ignorance. THANK YOU PUBLIC SCHOOLS! You have attained your goal of dumbing down America to the point where our freedoms are in dire jeopardy and socialism and humanism can now thrive.

The self appointed elitists of the world have a real shot at total control. To quote Han Solo, “I’ve got a bad feeling about this.”


18 posted on 05/20/2009 7:33:36 AM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: downtownconservative

The elitists have a real shot at total civil war when they try for total control.


19 posted on 05/20/2009 7:34:26 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: mc6809e

When you live in your parents’ basement playing Wii and texting friends all day long, “BIG government” really doesn’t show up on your radar. All this will shake out when the “millennials” wake up someday and find mom and dad are no longer around to care for them.


20 posted on 05/20/2009 7:34:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't build a "wind farm" without "Big Oil's" petroleum products.)
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To: MrB

Agree completely...if it is attempted in our life time. But unless a generation comes along with some savvy and cajones, things look very grim a half-century from now. IMHO!


21 posted on 05/20/2009 7:38:08 AM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: Francis McClobber

You make a good point. I’m willing to be that a fair number of freepers weren’t the rock-ribbed conservatives that they’ve become when they were in their 20’s. If you were that’s great. They need to start making some real money and see how much they like getting taxed or start sending their kids to public schools where they see what they learn/don’t learn.


22 posted on 05/20/2009 7:38:29 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: gathersnomoss

The problem is that these idiots “feel” (I will not use the word “thinks”) that they can have all they want in terms of government programs and “green energy” and other crap like that, and not suffer any economic or standard of living consequences. Sooner or later, it will all come crashing down, just like California. Only on a national scale. The productive part of the world, having taken what they can of our wealth, is now going to dump us like you dumped that idiot bimbo high school girlfriend.

This is going to be really ugly when these people wake up and find that all the necessities of life will be greatly rationed, and the goodies they took for granted won’t be available at all.

But like I said, there is no sense talking to them. They have an addict’s psychology and like all hard-core addicts, they won’t really start the road to recovery until they’ve hit rock bottom. There is a word for those of us who see what’s coming and try to soften the blow because “we’ll suffer, too.”

The word is “enabler.”


23 posted on 05/20/2009 7:38:38 AM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: indthkr
The 18-34 yr. old crowd is/has moved to the left of center. The GOP either didn't see it, or refused to pivot accordingly ==> politically tone deaf.

18-34 are basically “have nots”. The rats put up a sign that says “free cheese”, conservatives put up a sign that says “cheese you have to work for” Which line did they get in?

Exactly how are you going to attract them? The GOP did see it and became “rat lite”

24 posted on 05/20/2009 7:41:38 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: henkster

Yeah, I know that one. Why bother. Time will come when this former republic is all lost. Preparation is everything at this point.


25 posted on 05/20/2009 7:42:03 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Juan Medén

principles of democracy.


I am beginning to hate the use of the word democracy. We are a republic, a nation of laws, not majority vote.


26 posted on 05/20/2009 7:43:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: downtownconservative

Don’t be so glum. God has a plan for those Christian homeschool families with 10 kids.


27 posted on 05/20/2009 7:44:51 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
When you live in your parents’ basement playing Wii and texting friends all day long, “BIG government” really doesn’t show up on your radar. All this will shake out when the “millennials” wake up someday and find mom and dad are no longer around to care for them.

The Government is already playing dad for many of them.

28 posted on 05/20/2009 7:45:50 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Carley

Don’t forget the next “RIGHT”....FREE KFC CHICKEN!!! NO CHICKEN... NO PEACE!!! LOL. This generation is a sorry one. They have encouraged..indulged and pampered. In my day they would have been told to Sit down and Shut Up until you have something intelligent to say.


29 posted on 05/20/2009 7:46:23 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: MrB

Thanks! I needed that!


30 posted on 05/20/2009 7:49:40 AM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

democracy is definitely a sure road to tyranny.


31 posted on 05/20/2009 7:55:00 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: PeterPrinciple

democracy is definitely a sure road to tyranny.


32 posted on 05/20/2009 7:55:03 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: PeterPrinciple
"Exactly how are you going to attract them? The GOP did see it and became “rat lite”"

A good analogy & perhaps your right.

I guess the 18-34's are going to have to learn the hard way that there is no "free cheese".
33 posted on 05/20/2009 7:57:41 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: mc6809e
They're simply regurgitating what they've learned in their schools. Brainwashed. Waking up to reality is not easy.
34 posted on 05/20/2009 8:01:47 AM PDT by FourPeas (Obama: King Ahab wannabe)
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To: downtownconservative

Thank you parents who spent their time, ‘finding themselves’ indulging themselves, allowing the schools to bring up their children.

Reminds me of Omarosa Obama whining that the university in Chicago didn’t reach out to her. Evidently sitting back and waiting for the education, the jobs, the perks to ‘find you’ is the new mantra.

We will have a generation who learns the hard way, the very hard way. And they will be bitter bitter bitter.

And I don’t mean the bitter clingers of guns and God either.


35 posted on 05/20/2009 8:04:44 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: mc6809e

for example, my teenage daughter is continually running up huge cell phone bills via texting that goes over my plan. I have explained this to her and she has cooled it, but the problem has not gone away because this same explanation does not get through to all of her friends who keep texting her, sticking me with the charge. These kids have absolutely no clue nor concern that somebody somewhere always gets stuck paying the bill for whatever they want to do. Take that type of thinking writ large and you have your typical Millenium Democrat. (if technology existed back in the day that would have allowed my friends to run up a huge bill to my dad, he would have kicked my arse and those of my friends too)


36 posted on 05/20/2009 8:09:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mc6809e

oh, and don’t underestimate the corrosive effects of MTV (at least since they quit playing music)


37 posted on 05/20/2009 8:14:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: indthkr
I guess the 18-34’s are going to have to learn the hard way that there is no “free cheese

Truth in advertising requires that the sign say in small print “until it runs out.”
38 posted on 05/20/2009 8:15:42 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: mc6809e

They are all saddled with Tens of Thousands of Dollars DEBT for College, and they want SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY FOR IT!


40 posted on 05/20/2009 8:20:27 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mc6809e

They are all saddled with Tens of Thousands of Dollars DEBT for College, and they want SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY FOR IT!


41 posted on 05/20/2009 8:20:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: HarriedHarry
We desperately need better and stronger arguments that are seen as relevant by/to the upcoming electorate or all this WILL perish.

I don't think argument and logic will help. Their touch stone for making a decision is a feeling. Feelings are subject to manipulation and change everyday.
42 posted on 05/20/2009 8:22:57 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Has it occurred to you to block texting on her phone!


43 posted on 05/20/2009 8:23:33 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: mc6809e
Democracy isn't freedom. Democracy is control by the biggest gang. And the biggest gang wants IS big government.

Fixed that for you.

45 posted on 05/20/2009 8:27:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

A lot of libs I know justify all the unconstitutional laws and policies with “but we all voted on it, you just lost.”

My answer to that is that if there were 6 men and 4 women who voted on whether rape was to be allowed, and the women lost... should they just have to wait for the next election cycle and campaign harder? Or are there some things that just aren’t allowed, even by majority vote?


46 posted on 05/20/2009 8:31:32 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Juan Medén
"Unaware of the principles of democracy"? Fella, these kids are the living essence of the priciples of democracy!

Government "by the people" does not work. Representative government ALWAYS leads to tyranny. Why?

BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND UNFIT TO RULE THEMSELVES

that's why.

49 posted on 05/20/2009 8:44:37 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: mc6809e

They will change their mind when the bills start rolling in and they find out they are the ones paying them.


50 posted on 05/20/2009 9:29:20 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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