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Do hunter-gatherers have it right?
BBC ^ | May 19, 2009 | Tom Feilden

Posted on 05/24/2009 2:54:08 PM PDT by decimon

Listening to Tom Standage talking about his new book, An Edible History of Humanity this morning I was reminded of a paper written by the anthropologist and author Jared Diamond in the late 1980's.

Diamond described agriculture as, "the worst mistake in the history of the human race".

Farming was, he argued, a catastrophe from which we have never quite recovered. With agriculture came "the social and sexual inequality, disease and despotism, that curse our existence".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 05/24/2009 2:54:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Puperflect paleo ping.


2 posted on 05/24/2009 2:54:54 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I guess in a way he’s right, ‘cause if we stayed hunter-gatherer, this idiot wouldn’t be around.


3 posted on 05/24/2009 3:00:33 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: decimon
With agriculture came "the social and sexual inequality, disease and despotism, that curse our existence".

God. To be stupid, yet paid well. Although, looking at Obama and Geithner, it does appear entirely possible.

4 posted on 05/24/2009 3:01:09 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Putin warned Obama not to pursue Marxism. Obama has ignored him.)
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To: decimon
Those were the days.


5 posted on 05/24/2009 3:02:26 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Putin warned Obama not to pursue Marxism. Obama has ignored him.)
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To: decimon

Hunting and gathering is fine for a small society with lots of room to hunt and gather in. It helps if you don’t mind living on the edge of starvation as well.

If the billions of people on the planet today were to try it, cannibalism would become commonplace inside of a year as flora and fauna was wiped out on a scale never before seen.

Yep, farming has been a real disaster. LOL


6 posted on 05/24/2009 3:03:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: decimon
He must really hate vegetables.
7 posted on 05/24/2009 3:05:50 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Carry_Okie; hiredhand

Well this is weird ....


8 posted on 05/24/2009 3:07:43 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: decimon

A hunter-gatherer economy is utterly incapable of supporting an advanced civilization. The very system of writing by which Jared promotes his ideas would never be developed without the surplus provided by agriculture. The most advanced economy possible without agriculture is that of our own NW coast. And there only because of uniquely favorable climate and other circumstances.

The article doesn’t mention the true reason agriculturists took over. Farming can support something like 500 to 1000 or more times the population. Any tribe that refused to adopt it was quickly overrun by their newly more numerous neighbors.


9 posted on 05/24/2009 3:09:13 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: decimon

Migratory Hunter-Gatherer’s require Wi-Fi.

I’m still hard lined.


10 posted on 05/24/2009 3:10:58 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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11 posted on 05/24/2009 3:13:28 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: decimon

Well . . Mr. Standage could off himself and thereby help his cause . . . .


12 posted on 05/24/2009 3:15:53 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: decimon

If mankind had not started farming, how could they have gotten a sufficient supply of the “necessaries” to make a sufficient supply of beer?


13 posted on 05/24/2009 3:16:19 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: decimon
With agriculture came "the social and sexual inequality, disease and despotism, that curse our existence

when man invented the first crops, the first liberals invented altruism and redistributionism

14 posted on 05/24/2009 3:21:49 PM PDT by mjp (pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, independence, limited government, capitalism})
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To: decimon

“With agriculture came “the social and sexual inequality, disease and despotism, that curse our existence”.

This is what the ‘social justice’ world view does to people... It distorts history in an effort to change the future.

Agriculture created a situation where technological innovation paid off and it laid the groundwork for the free market system. Excess production could be traded or sold. It also created a lot more free time, time used to advance social development... precisly the effect he thinks it DIDN’T have but SHOULD have had.

He’s a smart man made into an idiot by a leftist world view, where ALL things are political.


15 posted on 05/24/2009 3:25:24 PM PDT by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: decimon

With lefto-enviro-schmucks you always have to read between the lines.

He doesn’t really mean we’d all be better off living like Paiutes eating cockroaches on the desert floor.

What he really means is, shut down 90% of all productive capacity in the Western World and put him and his friends in charge so that most of us can live like slaves and he and his friends can rule the roost.

When lefto-enviro-schmucks say they yearn for the hunter-gather lifestyle, what they really mean is they want a global Zimbabwe with them in charge.


16 posted on 05/24/2009 3:26:40 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: KrisKrinkle

Beat me to it. No agriculture, no beer. Case closed.


17 posted on 05/24/2009 3:32:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: decimon

This is the type of person who thinks that Earth would be a wonderful place if there were no humans on it. But like Henry David Thoreau, who adored nature, he only adored it during the day. At night, he wanted the warm security of a cabin, with a hearty meal of good tasting food prepared by a cook, and a soft bed to sleep on.

I would hazard to guess that the author lives in a congested city, in a small, overpriced luxury apartment, and the only time he experienced real nature was as an asthmatic 14 year old, sent by his parents to “Camp Broken Rubber”, as it would translate from the pseudo-Indian name. Where camp counselors would play the guitar while everyone sang Where Have All The Flowers Gone and eat spaghetti every night.

In other words, his idea of Hell on Earth would be to have to live for a week on Ted Nugent’s ranch. Because after living to this drivel, Ted would probably reenact any number of variations of “The Most Dangerous Game”, in which his guest would have an hour to make himself scarce before Ted went after him with a compound bow.


18 posted on 05/24/2009 3:42:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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19 posted on 05/24/2009 3:51:11 PM PDT by devolve ( . . . . . . . . . Obama confiscated Teacher & Police Union pension funds? . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: Sherman Logan
A hunter-gatherer economy is utterly incapable of supporting an advanced civilization.

What you say is clearly true. However, don't you on occasions lean back and think, "Hmmm, a life of hunting and fishing, no yard to mow, no job to work at, just hunting and fishing . . . "

20 posted on 05/24/2009 4:02:50 PM PDT by JimSEA
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