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DAVIS: Second thoughts on indicting Cheney. Pardon him . . . and others, too
The Washington Times ^ | May 25, 2009 | Lanny Davis

Posted on 05/25/2009 2:39:43 AM PDT by Scanian

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To: Scanian

(for approving the use of waterboarding and other forms of illegal torture,)
1.WHO says that waterboarding is torture?
2.What law would be used that specifically states that it is?
These people are political idiots.Placing silly politics before American citizens lives...


21 posted on 05/25/2009 4:08:48 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Scanian

Time is coming for TRUE “straight talks”(not McCAIN’s fake ones)about war and what is called “torture”.
Jail and harsh questionings aren’t they in many cases forms of “torture”.

STOP the libtard fake moral wordy speechs and postures and name names facing reallity


22 posted on 05/25/2009 4:11:40 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: Scanian

But wait!! There’s more!! bullshite, that is.


23 posted on 05/25/2009 4:11:43 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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To: calex59
How can you pardon someone who has committed no crime and has never been convicted of any crime?

Worked for Gerald Ford when the pardoned Nixon.

24 posted on 05/25/2009 4:21:12 AM PDT by garyb
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To: joseph20

“No one seriously disputes that waterboarding intentionally inflicts serious physical and mental pain.”

I infer Mr Davis does not taken Dick Cheney seriously. Big mistake.


25 posted on 05/25/2009 4:21:24 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Waco

Who really gives a d**n what Lanny Davis thinks?


26 posted on 05/25/2009 4:24:46 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Each new day is a gift; be grateful.)
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To: calex59

“How can you pardon someone who has committed no crime and has never been convicted of any crime?”

It’s a lawyer’s trick: by “accepting” a pardon, all of the individuals pardoned implicitly acknowledge they have committed a crime:

“A pardon by Mr. Obama would be based on his judgment that those in the prior administration had violated the law by authorizing conduct “specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering,” but that there were important public policy reasons not to prosecute them for their crimes.”

And, of course, not accepting a “generously” offered pardon would seem churlish to the ignorant public. Lanny Davis wants to put all these individuals between a rock and a hard place. He essentially wants to convict all without the benefit of such niceties as introduction of evidence, trial by jury of one’s peers etc. All proposed by Lanny Davis: ardent defender of civil liberties. ROFLMAOTIME.


27 posted on 05/25/2009 4:30:26 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Scanian

LOL .... Lanny knows that he will eventually lose his argument and that he’ll end up looking like a moron. A blanket pardon solves Lanny’s delima by allowing him to continue his silly claim that waterboarding (as practiced by the CIA and under these specific circumstance) was “torture” and “illegal”. Lanny’s “change of heart” is essentially a clever “salvage operation”... LOL .... for Lanny.

Take a good look at Lanny’s crawfishin’, fellas. This is about as close as a moonbat ever gets to admitting defeat.


28 posted on 05/25/2009 4:35:49 AM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: joseph20
Waterboarding is hardly torture. It simply makes use of a natural reflex that was there from the time you developed in the womb.

We've seen pro-abortion people like Lanny argue that when you see it active during a televised abortion that it doesn't mean a thing.

If Lanny would to learn what torture is really about there are any number of people who'd love to show him.

29 posted on 05/25/2009 4:44:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NavVet

Excellent point, NavVet. That certainly seems to be the thrust of this continuing Bush/Cheney-bashing.


30 posted on 05/25/2009 4:45:48 AM PDT by Walrus (If at first you don't secede, try, try again.)
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To: Scanian
Just another typical liberal scumbag tactic. You can't win your phony argument, so you attempt to frame the debate with a false preface. “No one argues that waterboarding is torture” falls apart as soon as you disclose that it's used against every American serviceman that undergoes SERE training. If you accept the false premise that waterboarding is torture, you must therefore accept that we torture our own service men and women just to “toughen them up a bit”. I'm not certain of the exact date this training was initiated, but I'm certain it was during the Vietnam conflict, making every subsequent Commander in Chief, and their staff, lawyers and members of Congress guilty. It's incredibly funny that Liberals twist themselves into knots over every minute action any Republican takes, but can never find the time to criticize or investigate the wholesale corruption that is the DemonRAT party. If there were any truth in Liberal Media at all, there would be very few of the current members of Congress not under indictment.
31 posted on 05/25/2009 4:51:34 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Well isn’t that just special. Lanny can’t win with facts so he tries to change the argument. This guy is just a hack lawyer. He should be water-boarded.


32 posted on 05/25/2009 5:04:56 AM PDT by baiamonte
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To: Scanian

Yep, time to backpedal on the Truth Commissions...too many DhimmiRats would be caught in the snare.

And, yes, Lanny Davis is a slimy piece of work.


33 posted on 05/25/2009 5:06:35 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Scanian
All of this is about politics, not principle.

Imagine the outrage had the three not been water boarded and were able to carry out their attacks and give us another 9/11 or worse. Then, in the aftermath, it is discovered that had we water boarded them, we could have prevented the attack(s).

I suspect that the same people who want to prosecute for water boarding would want to prosecute for NOT water boarding. And I would agree with them.

Which is real torture: being water boarded for a few minutes or the lifetime of heartache and pain of losing loved ones in a preventable terrorist attack?

34 posted on 05/25/2009 5:15:09 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Scanian
Pardon Cheney for doing his job?

Lanny Davis, you are a slimy, partisan hack and a spineless coward!

35 posted on 05/25/2009 5:17:18 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Agreed. Argument strategy is to demand that the premise can not be refuted.


36 posted on 05/25/2009 5:29:08 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Scanian

My suspicion is that Cheney would refuse the pardon.


37 posted on 05/25/2009 5:41:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Scanian

The only reason the Dems want a pardon is to get Pelosi off the hook.


38 posted on 05/25/2009 5:42:35 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Scanian
I don't think waterboarding is torture.

I do think that our IRS regulations are, however. I have been attempting to understanding certain investment related tax treatments and reading them over, and over again without successfully understanding what I am suppose to do, certainly qualifies as mental suffering and as far as I am concerned, the RATS that write this junk do it for the sole purpose of inflicting pain on us, the citizens.

39 posted on 05/25/2009 6:03:27 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Scanian
So I heard Lanny Davis come on Sean Hannity's radio program last week...and promptly turned the dial.

After this diaper stain of a human being disgraced himself during President Clinton's impeachment travails, I don't really give a flying fornication of what he has to say. At that time, he amply demonstrated to me that he is a hopeless partisan hack who lacks any shred of intellectual honesty.

40 posted on 05/25/2009 6:07:10 AM PDT by Lysandru
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