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Democrats wait for tragedy to enact weapon legislation
Examiner.com ^ | 5-29-2009 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 05/29/2009 9:59:05 PM PDT by Danae

America’s 1st Freedom June 2009 Magazine has called the Democrats onto the carpet.

And it isn’t pretty.

Marshall Lewin in an article titled:”Showing their True Colors”, lays it all on the line. In his article he describes a ruthless calculation, Democrat leaders in the White House and in Congress are waiting for people to die. That’s right. They are waiting until there is some national level tragedy, the loss of life involving firearms, to introduce and then pass legislation banning guns.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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To: Boucheau

“Melodramatic, I know. But I’ve always, regularly, actively cherished the idea and fact that I was an American. I LOVE being free.”
Brother you are in the freest country in the world. I have been all over the world and live in foreign countries with the military, did 2 tours in A-Stan, believe me, in spite of all our troubles, we are still the freest nation.

The silent majority will awaken and be heard from. Most are too responsible raising their families and working to be out there getting loud, thus far. There are indications the tide is starting to turn, there is a lot of buyers remorse with obama. Tea parties are just a start, the blogosphere and talk radio is stronger than ever, we are still a majority conservative nation, but i digress, we are still too complacent. I have faith, this is not the first challenge to our nation and it won’t be the last, we will survive, there will be an awakening.


81 posted on 05/30/2009 1:42:02 AM PDT by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: Danae
They must take our guns before they can take lives.

It will happen in 2013 if Obama gets re-elected.

82 posted on 05/30/2009 1:45:46 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: roughman

Franklin said, we have a republic, if we can keep it. This is what he meant. We slipped a bit, we got complacent really. Complacancy will KILL you , and for damn sure it’s gotten us to where we are. This issue will raise more national hackles and literally have people marching en-mass to DC. The Dims know that, thats why they are waiting for some complete Fu#$o to go postal and they will seize on the issue.

What matters right now is that we KNOW what they are doing. We have time to COUNTER it before they can wind up their spin machine. And that will come from publicly FLAYING them for allowing legislation like HR45 to just hang out in Feinstein’s subcommittee like some kind of massive rotten turd inside a dead whale about to explode!
We have an opportunity to expose them if we can get it to the right people in the press to HARP on it. There are ways to preempt this kind of crap, but you have to know what you are doing.
Someone page Karl Rove eh?


83 posted on 05/30/2009 1:50:24 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

“The Soviets would have had no qualms about going at it had not the fear been there.”

Uhm...the Hardline soviets DID go at it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

I have vastly oversimplified the events..and I’m sure there are better sources..

Bottom line...most of the troops and generals gave the KGB hardliners the finger and sided with the people and Gorbachev...the hardline coup failed within three days.


84 posted on 05/30/2009 1:50:35 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim

My fault, I meant of them attacking us.


85 posted on 05/30/2009 1:53:56 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: MaxMax

That’s nothing but true man


86 posted on 05/30/2009 1:57:32 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Oh...duh...it’s getting late....and I have no latte..

Oh I’m sure they considered a first strike at some point...

But the russians werent religious fanatics like the 12th Imam cultists trying to get nukes now...

They do us in a heartbeat if they had the means...

On that note...goodnight...better get to bed before the wife wakes up....if you never see me again...it’s becuase she killed me for staying up all night on FR...

*snicker*

Goodnight all...


87 posted on 05/30/2009 1:59:08 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim

Ditto! There are many others who will defend the right to bear arms with their lives .


88 posted on 05/30/2009 2:45:16 AM PDT by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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To: Danae

Elected officials (I refuse to call them leaders) are sworn to uphold the Constitution.

It is time to require all elected officials with Constitutional duties to so fear violating that oath that they refuse to do so.

Any legislative or policy position that encroaches on any of the Bill of Rights or seeks to place limitations on US citizens must be considered un-American, Anti-Constitutional, and thus, treason.

In other words, messing with the Bill of Rights is a violation of the oath of office and capital treason.

Nationally treat like such and lets see what happens.


89 posted on 05/30/2009 3:13:26 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Defending RINOs is the same as defending Liberals.)
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To: Boucheau
I think perhpas eyedigress is just expressing frustation. Frustation that we all feel. We sit and wait and try to sharpen our skills as opportunity provides. We know we can't begin to organize in any meaningful way because "where one or two of you are there will also be FBI, ATF, etc." (apologies to you-know-who) So we wait. Years.

If the day comes eyedigress will be doing what we all will. Trying to survive minute by minute. If the day comes I think that is what will bring us victory. I have said many times before bacteria don't organize, they don't communicate. They don't plan they don't "equip". Yet in the millions their each insignificant contribution all directed at the same purpose individually can kill a man. Pneumonia, kidney infection, menningitis.

Gun owners like us, we are getting ready for the "Long Wait". We are spores. We maintian our tools and we teach our children our values and how to use our tools. If necessary they will wait. Zero is so happy with the result of his 30 years of applying Alinsky to our society. We are ALinsky on steroids and amphetamine. We are Alinsky with guns. I don't think anyone fully understands this, not even us. We are like the Terminator in the sense that we never sleep, we never stop, we can't be changed, and we won't go away.

We watch the "tripwire". I saw a short movie by Walt Disney years ago where he was explaining a chain reaction. He had a large room covered with mousetraps that were each loaded with two ping pong balls. He tossed one "insignificant" ball into that room. In seconds there were balls flying everywhere.

One may consider that there are only a handfull of assholes like us that think this way and we are insignificant. If that is true on the day when Zero or anyone else "throws a ball into this room" we will see. If we are really insignificant in numbers eyedigress will be correct. We will be crushed without mercy and that will be that. In Nazi Germany there was a group known as "White Rose". Even so we will not have to endure what follows if it does happen that way. Jesus said, "If you take the sword you will die by the sword." Fine. Please notice he did NOT say "Don't take the sword" and in fact said "If you don't have a sword, buy one."

I suspect that with 80 million gun owners more than an insignificant number understand everything I have posted above. They comprehend the situation, the gravity, and the time. Is there anyone on the "other side" who wants to "throw the ball into this room"? That is THE question and my answer to anyone over there that wants to try comes from CLint Eastwood. "Do you feel lucky?" If so...

Μολὼν λάβε


90 posted on 05/30/2009 3:47:39 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: Boucheau

“These are not your run-of-the-mill liberals. These are communists.

This is but the quiet before the storm.

They WILL NOT wait for the people to vote away their power in 2010—it ain’t happening that way, folks.”

I hope your prediction is wrong, but I share your fear. It is hard to imagine that they (Democrats) would run so fast and so tirelessly in one direction (Socialism), with the knowledge that, now exposed, they risk losing momentum and Power in 2010. Seems like they need to fuel a larger “crisis” to remain in power, perhaps indefinitely!


91 posted on 05/30/2009 4:05:36 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale Patriot)
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To: Danae

I wonder if those who thought 9/11 was an inside job would feel the same about any such incident that led to the banning of firearms.


92 posted on 05/30/2009 4:22:10 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("Let 'em learn the hard way, 'cause teaching them is more trouble than they're worth,")
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To: OneWingedShark

That is what the Obama Security force would be used for. There would also be some Nazi like Fed LEO who would love a chance to show everyone how much power they have.


93 posted on 05/30/2009 4:47:09 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( If this be treason, then lets make the best of it.)
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To: Boucheau
But I’m here to tell you that once it happens, once you hear on the radio or see on TV that the ban has been passed, there WILL BE NO UPRISING, FRiend.
Maybe, MAYBE, a skirmish here, or there, but all those gun-owners you talk about will comply.
You, if your warrior-like comments are to be believed, and would be followed-through upon, will be a very small minority of resistors. The paradigm shifts just as soon as the law is passed in the minds of most Americans. Should you provide armed resistance, you will be killed in short order.

Sadly, I am in complete agreement. The folks here who are hooting at you may indeed be the few and the brave, and then they will be among the buried and forgotten in the land of the sheeple. With proper preparation, softening of the victims, a gun ban will get 95% compliance. Another 4.999% will need to have their taxes examined, their children removed to foster care, their assets seized over trumped up charges they can't afford to fight indefinitely, and their heels cooled in court; but in the end only a handful of them will actually live the "Molon Labe" dream, or cause a twinge to the conscience of a National Guardsman or a neighborhood cop, or check out in a cinematic blaze of glory ("Top o' the world, Ma!")

In fact, most police forces today, never mind most military forces, can remove would-be glory blazers as easily as a walk-in clinic medical assistant spritzing out a stubborn plug of ear wax.

You brave iron men who claim to be more stubborn than that, who now sit at your keyboards unsuspected of such grit -- I am proud to be in your company, to share the same internet forum with you. I salute you and all your rippling muscles. But you're going to be annihilated, all the same.

94 posted on 05/30/2009 4:50:47 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law.)
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To: Crim
And if that citizen soldier turns up on my block I’m taking him out some coffee and we can can talk about weapons and how fracked up Washington is and who fraked it up....

It will not be a citizen soldier. It will be Obama's National Police Force. His Nazi brown shirts. And more likely his ACORN organization that he funded with 3.6 billion dollars of stimulus funds.

95 posted on 05/30/2009 4:53:21 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Boucheau
When people start seeing people killed by govt. searching houses, then it isn't about gun rights anymore. I'll fight to my death when we are facing losing ALL our freedom. I have no other place to go or I would leave before that scenario plays out.
When the govt. comes to a law abiding citizens house to confiscate something that has been a cornerstone of our freedom for over 200 years, then you have lost it all.
And I mostly agree with the poster who says they aren't gonna do s**t. There are a few communist politicians here who would go along with something like that, but not as many as you might think.
I already know our military will be supporting us if such a freedom grab were to be enacted. Those boys and girls are not the children of liberals, and/or Ozombie’s welfare crowd. They are our children.
Someone else said it better than me, they said, “When it's time to bury your guns, it will be time to dig them up”
96 posted on 05/30/2009 4:58:54 AM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Boucheau
the time to resist (non-violently) is right now

Indeed, it's long past due. That it has not happened, tells you all you need to know. No uprising after Roe, none after Kelo, and Barack 0bama is in the White House looting the national economy. Duly elected. But we'll fight when they come for our guns, you betcha! Right there on our doorsteps we're gonna dig in.

Clue: When they get to your doorstep, you won't be there. You'll be at work, or in jail, or on the run. You won't even be dyeing your hair in some dreary mot_l on the strip, because you can't get your card away from the ATM that just ate it under orders from your bank under orders from the gubmint.

Fact: A ****ing dogcatcher is overqualified to pick up most citizens.

97 posted on 05/30/2009 5:08:55 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law.)
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To: Boucheau
The Australian AND the Brit gun-owners talked tough too.

The Australian and the Brit gun-owners are not American Gun Owners... and that does make a difference.

98 posted on 05/30/2009 5:53:39 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Danae

Of course they are! Its their only means of abolishing the second amendment.


99 posted on 05/30/2009 5:57:06 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: Boucheau
I’m one man with zero power.

Why not amplify your power with millions of other like minded citizens...

Gun Owners of America (GOA)

National Rifle Association (NRA)

Second Amendment Foundation (SAF)

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO)

Alarm and Muster – The document that started a movement.

Alarm and Muster – The Modern Day Call Tree for Emergency Preparation.

100 posted on 05/30/2009 5:58:53 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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